• Welcome to the Chronicle Forums.
    Please complete your profile. The forums and the rest of www.chronofhorse.com has single sign-in, so your log in information for one will automatically work for the other. Disclaimer: The opinions expressed here are the views of the individual and do not necessarily reflect the views and opinions of The Chronicle of the Horse.



Forum rules and no-advertising policy

As a participant on this forum, it is your responsibility to know and follow our rules. Please read this message in its entirety.

Board Rules

1. You’re responsible for what you say.
As outlined in Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, The Chronicle of the Horse and its affiliates, as well Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd., the developers of vBulletin, are not legally responsible for statements made in the forums.

This is a public forum viewed by a wide spectrum of people, so please be mindful of what you say and who might be reading it—details of personal disputes are likely better handled privately. While posters are legally responsible for their statements, the moderators may in their discretion remove or edit posts that violate these rules. Users have the ability to modify or delete their own messages after posting, but administrators generally will not delete posts, threads or accounts upon request.

Outright inflammatory, vulgar, harassing, malicious or otherwise inappropriate statements and criminal charges unsubstantiated by a reputable news source or legal documentation will not be tolerated and will be dealt with at the discretion of the moderators.

2. Conversations in horse-related forums should be horse-related.
The forums are a wonderful source of information and support for members of the horse community. While it’s understandably tempting to share information or search for input on other topics upon which members might have a similar level of knowledge, members must maintain the focus on horses.

3. Keep conversations productive, on topic and civil.
Discussion and disagreement are inevitable and encouraged; personal insults, diatribes and sniping comments are unproductive and unacceptable. Whether a subject is light-hearted or serious, keep posts focused on the current topic and of general interest to other participants of that thread. Utilize the private message feature or personal email where appropriate to address side topics or personal issues not related to the topic at large.

4. No advertising in the discussion forums.
Posts in the discussion forums directly or indirectly advertising horses, jobs, items or services for sale or wanted will be removed at the discretion of the moderators. Use of the private messaging feature or email addresses obtained through users’ profiles for unsolicited advertising is not permitted.

Company representatives may participate in discussions and answer questions about their products or services, or suggest their products on recent threads if they fulfill the criteria of a query. False "testimonials" provided by company affiliates posing as general consumers are not appropriate, and self-promotion of sales, ad campaigns, etc. through the discussion forums is not allowed.

Paid advertising is available on our classifieds site and through the purchase of banner ads. The tightly monitored Giveaways forum permits free listings of genuinely free horses and items available or wanted (on a limited basis). Items offered for trade are not allowed.

Advertising Policy Specifics
When in doubt of whether something you want to post constitutes advertising, please contact a moderator privately in advance for further clarification. Refer to the following points for general guidelines:

Horses – Only general discussion about the buying, leasing, selling and pricing of horses is permitted. If the post contains, or links to, the type of specific information typically found in a sales or wanted ad, and it’s related to a horse for sale, regardless of who’s selling it, it doesn’t belong in the discussion forums.

Stallions – Board members may ask for suggestions on breeding stallion recommendations. Stallion owners may reply to such queries by suggesting their own stallions, only if their horse fits the specific criteria of the original poster. Excessive promotion of a stallion by its owner or related parties is not permitted and will be addressed at the discretion of the moderators.

Services – Members may use the forums to ask for general recommendations of trainers, barns, shippers, farriers, etc., and other members may answer those requests by suggesting themselves or their company, if their services fulfill the specific criteria of the original post. Members may not solicit other members for business if it is not in response to a direct, genuine query.

Products – While members may ask for general opinions and suggestions on equipment, trailers, trucks, etc., they may not list the specific attributes for which they are in the market, as such posts serve as wanted ads.

Event Announcements – Members may post one notification of an upcoming event that may be of interest to fellow members, if the original poster does not benefit financially from the event. Such threads may not be “bumped” excessively. Premium members may post their own notices in the Event Announcements forum.

Charities/Rescues – Announcements for charitable or fundraising events can only be made for 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organizations. Special exceptions may be made, at the moderators’ discretion and direction, for board-related events or fundraising activities in extraordinary circumstances.

Occasional posts regarding horses available for adoption through IRS-registered horse rescue or placement programs are permitted in the appropriate forums, but these threads may be limited at the discretion of the moderators. Individuals may not advertise or make announcements for horses in need of rescue, placement or adoption unless the horse is available through a recognized rescue or placement agency or government-run entity or the thread fits the criteria for and is located in the Giveaways forum.

5. Do not post copyrighted photographs unless you have purchased that photo and have permission to do so.

6. Respect other members.
As members are often passionate about their beliefs and intentions can easily be misinterpreted in this type of environment, try to explore or resolve the inevitable disagreements that arise in the course of threads calmly and rationally.

If you see a post that you feel violates the rules of the board, please click the “alert” button (exclamation point inside of a triangle) in the bottom left corner of the post, which will alert ONLY the moderators to the post in question. They will then take whatever action, or no action, as deemed appropriate for the situation at their discretion. Do not air grievances regarding other posters or the moderators in the discussion forums.

Please be advised that adding another user to your “Ignore” list via your User Control Panel can be a useful tactic, which blocks posts and private messages by members whose commentary you’d rather avoid reading.

7. We have the right to reproduce statements made in the forums.
The Chronicle of the Horse may copy, quote, link to or otherwise reproduce posts, or portions of posts, in print or online for advertising or editorial purposes, if attributed to their original authors, and by posting in this forum, you hereby grant to The Chronicle of the Horse a perpetual, non-exclusive license under copyright and other rights, to do so.

8. We reserve the right to enforce and amend the rules.
The moderators may delete, edit, move or close any post or thread at any time, or refrain from doing any of the foregoing, in their discretion, and may suspend or revoke a user’s membership privileges at any time to maintain adherence to the rules and the general spirit of the forum. These rules may be amended at any time to address the current needs of the board.

Please see our full Terms of Service and Privacy Policy for more information.

Thanks for being a part of the COTH forums!

(Revised 1/26/16)
See more
See less

stock tie and pin annoyance

  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • stock tie and pin annoyance

    At a mock hunt recently I was tying my fiancee's stock and pinning it and remembered how irritating they are. Most of my stocks are covered in blood spots from me stabbing self with pin!

    1. I ordered a Large stock tie - it's about 10" too short on him. Barely enough to cross the ends over. Who makes a really LONG one?

    2. Stock pins made of flimsy gold plated metal are awful - they bend. Has anyone tried the steel shank ones? Worth the extra $?

    3. Anyone use a tie tack or any other pinning method? I am afraid I will give my SO an unintended tracheotomy soon!
    PSSM / EPSM and Shivers Forum

  • #2
    The only stock pins worth bothering with to actually PIN a STOCK are the ones with steel shanks.

    With regard to the length, did you put the buttonhole in the front or the back?

    chief feeder and mucker for Music, Spy, Belle and Tiara. Someone else is now feeding and mucking for Chief and Brain (both foxhunting now).


    • Original Poster

      buttonhole in the front - hmmmm......
      PSSM / EPSM and Shivers Forum


      • #4
        Horse Country sells a four fold stock tie. A long one.

        I no longer bother with any form of stock pin sold at a tack store. I go to the fabric store and buy kilt pins. Super strong and dirt cheap. Last for years.

        They go through thick fabric pretty easily and I no longer stab myself.
        Brothers and sisters, I bid you beware
        Of giving your heart to a dog to tear.
        -Rudyard Kipling


        • #5
          Well, if it ain't long enough, you simply don't have it tight enough. If you can swallow, it's not tight enough.

          And. Even the best pin needs a little lubrication to get it started. I rub mine on either side of my nose (without drawing blood mind you), ya know, that oil that gave you zits as a teenager is still there and DOES have a use.


          • Original Poster

            Hah! I am all for spitting on thermometers but that's a new one!

            As for choking the fiancee I am trying to encourage him to ride, and not by cutting of circulation to his head!

            It was snug though - buttonhole affixed to button at front, through the "slot" thingy, and back to the front. Knotted, the ends just barely crossed.
            PSSM / EPSM and Shivers Forum


            • #7
              Well, fiance was a football player in previous life? Lineman, maybe?

              There is some nominal sizing to stocks. As suggested, check w/Horse Country, they can advise you. True, we want to keep him comfy til he is hopelessly hooked...


              • #8
                2 choices:
                New stock tie.
                New fiance.
                Your call.
                : o )
                * www.huntersrest.net -- Virginia hunt country's best Bed-and-Breakfast-and-Barn.


                • Original Poster

                  ooooh.... uhhhmmm... gosh, tough call!!!

                  well I bought a Large stock to fix this problem and he's no football player - normal neck. I think the manufacturer is wacko though - the tie is the same length at my other 2.

                  yeah OK, new tie. Seems easiest!
                  PSSM / EPSM and Shivers Forum


                  • #10
                    Do you know someone who knows how to use a sewing machine? You can order material, or purchase at your local fabric store, and provide the handy individual with the too short stock and ask for one made in a similar fashion,only longer.

                    I have a friend in my hunt who I gave some white flannel fabric to and she made me a flannel stock! Perfect for those cold days. I may even try to get one made out of a fine nap fleece.

                    I 2nd the kilt pins!

                    Also while you are at the fabric store, you might be able to find a pin cushion that has a small attachment. This attachment is for sharpening needles. I bet it would sharpen a stock pin as well.

                    I also find that if I go through a layer of fabric at a time, I don't have to push so hard, so don't have to worry as much about impaling myself.


                    • #11
                      X, similar problem in our household. My husband wears my Father's stock, and while they were similar sizes, their necks are apparently not even close -Leatherneck's necks are larger!

                      I agree with others in finding someone to make one. In fact, use the too-small one as a template, so seamstress knows how much bigger it needs to be!
                      One thing you can give and still keep is your word.


                      • #12
                        After buying a Horse Country 4 fold stock tie, I realized that even a sewing klutz like me can make one. Went to the local cheap fabric store (JoAnnes or something like that) and bought white cotton fabric, cut it out and hemmed the edges then ironed the folds in. Much cheaper. My Horse Country's stock tie measures 77 inches long by 9 1/4 inch wide and they are pretty long!!! I actually made mine much shorter.

                        Great idea about the kilt pins.


                        • #13
                          If you're not keen on stabbing your nose, a wise master once recommended chapstick on your stock pin...


                          • #14
                            just my 2 sense!

                            Also...don't try to go thru ALL the layers of fabric either. Just enough to hold the pin & sides in place! I mean; the knot ain't going anywhere so it doesn't have to be anchored. Go thru the side piece, then just one/two layers of knot, then the other side piece. Adjust and voila!!! That's just 3 punctures of thinner layers of cloth. Practice, practice, practice. Go for quality not quantity.

                            Second making your own 4 folds. I like cotton oxford cloth available in spring/summer. Yellow/vanilla goes with any kind of cubbing jacket. Patterned white oxford makes a classy look for formal season. And remember!! 4 folds make great bandages!!! Just sayin'!!!


                            • Original Poster

                              I usually go through the layers one at a time and even then it's infuriating: top fold, bottom fold, shirt, then back out through shirt and folds again.

                              Going to get (make) a 4 fold and steel pin, for sure.

                              Cotton Oxford or pique, you think? Lawn will be too lightweight, no?
                              PSSM / EPSM and Shivers Forum


                              • #16
                                Originally posted by wateryglen View Post
                                Also...don't try to go thru ALL the layers of fabric either. Just enough to hold the pin & sides in place!
                                You flunk, and are condemned to hell. Oh, no, wait. All foxhunters are condemned to hell, because we have had our heaven on earth.

                                If you don't get it all the way through, including the knot, you are required to furnish the stirrup cup.


                                • #17
                                  Originally posted by Beverley View Post
                                  If you don't get it all the way through, including the knot, you are required to furnish the stirrup cup.
                                  Oooo - can I be the one that conducts the inspection?

                                  I like Scotch. Single Malt. Don't get cheap on me, people, or I'll stick my beagle in your truck as punishment. She needs a bath.
                                  Brothers and sisters, I bid you beware
                                  Of giving your heart to a dog to tear.
                                  -Rudyard Kipling


                                  • #18
                                    also for sharpening stock pins, pull out a nail clipper and use the metal file to get a nice point.
                                    Doubled Expectations (Roxy, 2001 APHA)
                                    Al Amir (Al, 2005 OTTB)
                                    Ten Purposes (Rosie, 2009 OTTB)


                                    • #19
                                      Where do you all get your steel shank stock pins? Dover has an expensive pin, so I assume it has steel, but it doesn't say explicitly and I want to be sure!

                                      I have bent so many cheap pins lately...


                                      • #20
                                        I use a bandage pin.
                                        "It's like a Russian nesting doll of train wrecks."--CaitlinandTheBay

                                        ...just settin' on the Group W bench.