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    Originally posted by Bob Kane View Post
    HB1352 Defeated
    You're a one trick pony Derick and not a very good one at that. VHDA's HB1352 failed because six (6) GOP members voted against it twice today. Only one Democrat supported the bill. Please just go away before you do any more damage to Virginia sportsmen.

    HB1352, the DGIF Board restructuring-reorganizing bill introduced for Kirby Burch, Derick Ratcliffe, et al (AKA VA Hunting Dog Alliance) was defeated on two House floor votes today (48-Y 50-N) and (47-Y 52-N). The measure was GOP leadership backed and seen as a slap at the Governor. The actual vote tallies are posted at http://vhdoa.uplandbirddog.com/staterk.html

    The HSUS anti-dog breeding HB538 passed (91-Y 6-N), thanks in part to several foxhound hunts and clubs.


    Bob Kane, President
    Virginia Hunting Dog Owners' Association
    Chairman Emeritus, Sportsmen and Animal Owners' Voting Alliance
    http://vhdoa.uplandbirddog.com http://saova.org

    No Bobby, I am not going away. It didn't pass this year but there is always next year. The Virginia Hunting Dog Alliance are hunters working freely for hunters. We don't except under the table money and term them reimbursments like some do. We are not making a living off it, like some are. Those who know you know you well and those that don't soon will. Have a good day.

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    • Hokieboy

      Originally posted by Hokieman View Post
      No Bobby, I am not going away. It didn't pass this year but there is always next year. The Virginia Hunting Dog Alliance are hunters working freely for hunters. We don't except under the table money and term them reimbursments like some do. We are not making a living off it, like some are. Those who know you know you well and those that don't soon will. Have a good day.
      Hokieboy,

      That “money under the table” calumny is both juvenile and ridiculous, as anyone who knows me, the Virginia Hunting Dog Owners' Association http://vhdoa.uplandbirddog.com or SAOVA http://saova.org/ will attest. It’s a tragic shame that you’re so myopic and misdirected that all your considerable Internet energy is being squandered on efforts that hurt Virginia sportsmen. Two years from now, no houndsman will remember what they saw in VHDA and we'll all be the worse off for your nonsense blogging.

      My apologies to the moderator.
      Bob Kane, Chairman Emeritus
      Virginia Hunting Dog Owners' Association
      Sportsmen and Animal Owners' Voting Alliance
      http://vhdoa.uplandbirddog.com http://saova.org

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        Originally posted by Bob Kane View Post
        Hokieboy,

        That “money under the table” calumny is both juvenile and ridiculous, as anyone who knows me, the Virginia Hunting Dog Owners' Association http://vhdoa.uplandbirddog.com or SAOVA http://saova.org/ will attest. It’s a tragic shame that you’re so myopic and misdirected that all your considerable Internet energy is being squandered on efforts that hurt Virginia sportsmen. Two years from now, no houndsman will remember what they saw in VHDA and we'll all be the worse off for your nonsense blogging.

        My apologies to the moderator.

        Bobby, I have worked very hard and am doing what I feel is right and no matter what you say or falsely claim is going to detour me from giving Virginia Hunting Dog Alliance and it's members my full attention in getting the job done so that the hunting dog community will have a political voice that will be heard through out Virginia. We are growing by leaps and bounds and will be even a stronger force next year. smile Bobby we aren't even a year old yet and I am still wet behind the ears but willing to learn as I go.

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        • Look at the bottom of every one of Hokiemans VHDA web page. Says "Authorized and Paid for by the Commonwealth Sportsmen’s Alliance P.A.C (91-401)". So they're actually the mouthpiece of a political group. any funds sent in go somewhere else - not what they lead you to believe you're supporting. Nice job Derick!

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            Originally posted by Big-Bird-VA View Post
            Look at the bottom of every one of Hokiemans VHDA web page. Says "Authorized and Paid for by the Commonwealth Sportsmen’s Alliance P.A.C (91-401)". So they're actually the mouthpiece of a political group. any funds sent in go somewhere else - not what they lead you to believe you're supporting. Nice job Derick!
            I guess you missed this link.

            http://vahda.org/about.htm

            The Virginia Hunting Dog Alliance is a Committee of autonomous organizations and individuals working in conjunction with the Commonwealth Sportsmen’s Alliance, Inc. a Virginia Political Action Committee registered with the Virginia State Board of Elections. All expenditures and receipts of the organization are reported in accordance with the Code of Virginia (Law). Financial reports are made quarterly and may be viewed at the State Board of Elections web site - http://www.sbe.virginia.gov/cms/

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            • Originally posted by Hokieman View Post
              I guess you missed this link.

              http://vahda.org/about.htm

              The Virginia Hunting Dog Alliance is a Committee of autonomous organizations and individuals working in conjunction with the Commonwealth Sportsmen’s Alliance, Inc. a Virginia Political Action Committee registered with the Virginia State Board of Elections. All expenditures and receipts of the organization are reported in accordance with the Code of Virginia (Law). Financial reports are made quarterly and may be viewed at the State Board of Elections web site - http://www.sbe.virginia.gov/cms/
              More lies. The VHDA is owned/run by the same person as CSA. That would be Kirby Burch, HM coonhound buddy. The funds go straight to Kirbys PO box and into the PAC. They're not working with, they're owned and run by CSA. BIG difference. Anyone starting to see the game here being played?

              Next time how about telling it like it is to start with?

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                Originally posted by Big-Bird-VA View Post
                More lies. The VHDA is owned/run by the same person as CSA. That would be Kirby Burch, HM coonhound buddy. The funds go straight to Kirbys PO box and into the PAC. They're not working with, they're owned and run by CSA. BIG difference. Anyone starting to see the game here being played?

                Next time how about telling it like it is to start with?
                The website clearly shows who the officers and directors are and its all there for everyone to read.

                http://vahda.org/faqs.htm

                Why do we need another organization?

                The Virginia Hunting Dog Alliance (VHDA) was formed as an umbrella organization, part of the Commonwealth Sportsmen’s Alliance PAC, to give Virginia Sportsmen a political voice within the law. Many groups came together because many of the"old line established or nationally affiliated organizations" simply were more interested in going along to get along. They did not criticize the DGIF Board or staff when it was needed! Now the DGIF Board has undertaken a dangerous course the Hound Study that they say"Will determine the future of hunting in Virginia"! Virginia’s Sportsmen need a strong voice to tell the bureaucrats and politicians not to tread on our rights! They want their Sportsmen’s organization to be bold defenders of their Heritage not elitists that ignore the hunting traditions that are as old as Virginia herself!


                You have been to the website. I encourage you to look it over more closely.

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                  Another resolution passed in King William Co. thats 11 and more to come.

                  Hunters express support for hounds
                  They attend hearing in King William to protect their pastime

                  Tuesday, Feb 26, 2008 - 12:25 AM

                  By LAWRENCE LATANE III
                  TIMES-DISPATCH STAFF WRITER
                  KING WILLIAM -- Deer hunters unleashed their support for hounds, and residents took another bite at the pros and cons of motocross racing at a packed public hearing last night.

                  The crowd numbered in the hundreds and overflowed from the meeting room into the hallways of the King William County administration building.

                  Deer hunters backed the Board of Supervisors' unanimous resolution in support of hunting with dogs.

                  The county is the 11th to endorse the pastime, which advocates say is under pressure as suburban development spreads into rural outposts such as King William.

                  "We need to pass this thing to stay the same so we can continue to do what we've always done," said Mike Turner, one of the legion of hunters wearing blaze orange hats and canvas field coats.

                  The Virginia Department of Game and Inland Fisheries launched a study late last fall that is examining hunters' use of hounds in the pursuit of white-tailed deer.

                  The study has fanned fears that the state may be looking for support to outlaw deer hunting with dogs, but Rich Busch, assistant director of the department's wildlife division, disagrees. "We want to find a way to have hound hunting continue into the foreseeable future," he said in an interview. He did not attend the King William meeting.

                  Residents also continued the furor for the second monthly meeting in a controversy about motocross motorcycle racing.

                  Developers tabled a proposal for a 327-acre motocross park in January before it reached the Planning Commission after critics overwhelmed an informal presentation of the plan.

                  At the time, the proposal called for four tracks and a campground about 5 miles west of Central Garage off state Route 30. The developers say they intend to return with a more palatable proposal, but they have not filed anything yet.

                  Last night, advocates of a track traded places on the podium with opponents who, so far, have dominated the debate.

                  "We go motocrossing every weekend," Eli Hopkins told the supervisors. "It's the number one family-oriented sport there is."

                  But Margo El, who lives near the proposed track site, said she fears racing will destroy her peace and quiet. "I'm used to listening to the birds, the crickets," she said.
                  Contact Lawrence Latané III at (804) 333-3461 or llatane@timesdispatch.com.

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                    Virginia Hunting Dog Alliance
                    News Briefs
                    Powhatan, Virginia
                    Thursday, February 28, 2008

                    2008 General Assembly
                    The session is almost over. On balance, the session produced some good pro-Sportsmen legislation without any really bad bills passing, yet! Your phone calls and emails have made a substantial difference! We hope to increase that contact next year! We have updated the web site so that you can see who voted with and against us on all of the bills we were working. Some highlights and some comments:

                    SB538, sponsored by Delegate Robert D. Orrock, Sr., (R) - House District 54, is still alive, but amended to lessen its potential impact and looking for funding in a tight budget year. Call your Senator and ask him or her vote no to any budget that contains funding for HB538!

                    HB 1352 sponsored by Delegate R. Lee Ware, (R) - Powhatan was defeated in the House (47-52), but it sent a serious message that the Sportsmen are tired of the DGIF Board of Directors ignoring their interests only to service the will of wealthy elitists who selfishly abolish or severely limit centuries of Virginia Heritage! Please take the time to thank the delegates that supported this effort. Delegates Hogan and Saxman worked hard for passage when our bill reached the floor! Of course, Delegate Ware was instrumental in all of our efforts in the House this year. A special thanks goes out to Delegate Johnny S. Joannou (D) - House District 79 – Portsmouth for courageously standing with us on this bill. He is a longtime friend of Virginia’s Sportsmen and of the Second Amendment!

                    SB 263 sponsored by R. Creigh Deeds (D) - Senate District 25, after passing the Senate 38-1 with amendments, it was killed in House Agriculture Committee by a voice vote. The sponsor complained that the Senate had reduced the penalty from a class four misdemeanor to a class two, but retains the revocation of the hunting license and forfeiture of firearm or bow involved. In the House, the sponsor argued that the class four misdemeanor provisions be reinstated. It is worth noting that Senator Deeds is an announced candidate for Governor in 2009!

                    A complete list of bills that the Alliance followed and our positions can be found on the web site http://www.vahda.org/legislation.htm .

                    The Board of Directors in accordance with the By-laws has approved these positions. We encourage our members to contact the Directors with questions about the positions taken. This is your Alliance! Because of the long days at the Legislature, we do not have the time to explain to everyone that is not an Alliance member why we spoke for, worked in favor of or opposed a certain bills. As the organization develops a more extensive process will be used to develop and debate policy, but due to the fast moving nature of the legislature the Board must often decide on a course of action on short notice and the folks on site must be able to act.

                    Sunday Hunting
                    The VHDA opposes Sunday hunting as one of the quickest ways to turn the non-hunting public, landowners and all who keep at Sabbath against Hound Hunting. James Hazel, Chairman of DGIF Board from Fairfax Co., representing himself and not the DGIF Board, in an unprecedented move, spoke in favor of Sunday hunting, as did an NRA’s representative Joel Partridge and an individual from Tidewater. Senator Stolle tried to put the camel’s nose (and body) under the tent with his urban archery bill SB708, but was soundly defeated by a vote in House Agriculture Committee. Speaking against Sunday Hunting were the Virginia Farm Bureau, the Virginia Agribusiness Council, and the VHDA! We have received some complaints about our position from a few Sportsmen who still-hunt and are NOT members of our organization. Many were used to hunting on Sunday where they came from. There are no plans to seek any modification of existing law to end any Sunday exemptions that currently exist, such as the 2:00 AM Sunday provision to allow for retrieval of dogs.

                    Making DGIF Hunter Friendly!
                    House Joint Resolution by Delegate Chris Saxman (R) - Staunton: HJ 231 Game and Inland Fisheries, Board of; Board & Department to provide for citizen input in regulations; urges the DGIF Board to return to the two-year regulatory cycle and local meetings by Board members and staff to explain proposals for new regulations. It was made clear that the use of the Internet alone was not a practice favored by legislators. The staff was receptive to this request. We continue to hope that the Board will take the Resolution to heart! The Senate rules committee amended the Bill to require a report by DGIF on their efforts to implement this resolution. At the January 22, 2008, Board meeting, we were left somewhat cynical about their willingness to abandon the Internet as a method of receiving comments! They have decided to use the internet for another survey on Hound Hunting. To date the survey is neither on the web site nor in the mail! Mailing all hunters or a large sample would insure input more representative of the Hunting community.

                    The Hunting Dog Study!
                    The advisory committee members have been named. Letters have been prepared and will be mailed soon. In spite of public assurances by Mr. Duncan at a number of meetings, NO VHDA BOARD Members have been named to this committee! The VHDA is the largest hunting organization in the state and is dedicated to hunting with dogs! DGIF still has a lot to learn and a long way to go before we will ever trust them again! Please notify us immediately if you are asked to serve on the committee! Delegate Watkins Abbitt, (I) – Appomattox, one of us and one of the best friends hunters that use dogs will ever have, was asked to be on the committee, but declined.

                    OUR FRIENDS
                    Members of the House and Senate including Speaker Howell and Majority Leader Griffin of the House constantly helped us. Some folks, hope we didn’t miss too many of our loyal friends, that stand out because they dealt daily with many of our bills and were stalwart defenders of your rights are listed below:
                    Delegates: Morgan, Ware, R.L., Wright, Saxman, Hogan, Scott, E.T., Marshall, D.W., Lohr, Poindexter, Abbitt and Senator Ruff.
                    Please remember to give them special thanks!

                    Some thoughts:

                    1.Every hunter needs to be registered to vote! Many are not currently registered. If you know someone, friend or families, please get them registered to vote. Make sure they vote in every election. It does matter!

                    2.Your phone calls and letters made a major difference.

                    3.Governor Kaine has promised that next year will be the year of the environment! With the completion of the Hound study we know they will be bring legislation to take away your rights! Mr. Hazel, DGIF Chairman, told the VHDA that NO legislation will be recommended by the study! Presumably he intends to bring regulatory changes. We must be ready; they will come after us this year with new regulation or next year in the legislature!

                    4.Resolutions by the County Boards of Supervisors that say they oppose the study are the best way to answer to anti-dog study recommendations! The Boards of Supervisors know better than a couple of VT professors!

                    5.The strength that comes from large numbers of members and their families give us a voice in the Virginia General Assembly and with the Boards of Supervisors. Please get everyone that you know to join the Virginia Hunting Dog Alliance. When you join on line it shows you which legislative district you are in.

                    Our next News Brief will deal with where we go from here. The VHDA is an organization on the move. Watch the web site http://www.vahda.org/ for news and updates. We are growing everyday!
                    Remember this is your organization! If you don’t want it to be like those “other” hunting organizations that let you down, you must get involved! GET IN THE FIGHT OR LOSE YOUR RIGHTS!

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                      Goochland county has passed the Brunswick Resolution. Check out our website for more news and updates.

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                        Hunting with Hounds in Virginia: A Way Forward
                        Focus Group Meeting Summaries (10 of 16 Posted)


                        http://www.huntfishva.com/hunting/ho...roup-summaries

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                          Virginia hunting dog owners, We can make a difference by uniting and working togeather. Have you done everything you know to do? Have you joined Virginia Hunting Dog Alliance? join online @ http://vahda.org

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