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  • Hock action in the hunters

    I'm have a young mare I'm bringing along to be a potential hunter. However, she is a big expressive mover with hock action. No knee action. Ground covering stride.

    A few people have recommended I steer her towards a career in dressage for that reason, but that's not my cup of tea.

    Thoughts on this kind of movement in the hunter ring?

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    Do you have a video?

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      https://youtu.be/2r1L2XMj3Uc

      Short video of her on the lunge line before she was started undersaddle in June.
       

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        OP- she is cute. Definitely give her up - I know someone who would take her (but you may see her in the hunter ring).

        I am not seeing why you couldn't do hunters with her due to her "hock action". She doesn't have giant, ground covering strides (in the video but she's on a lunge) but she isn't a chain saw with her knees either up front. If I saw a video of her without your preface- I wouldn't say "She screams dressage" because of how she moves.
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          She sure is cute. Who is telling you about this "hock action"? Is it a trainer or a barnmate? Is it someone who would possibly benefit in some way if you repurposed her to dressage?

          I am also one that is not seeing why she wouldn't be able to do hunters.. Is that how she moves in a paddock too? I think she's a cute mover, she doesn't have terrible gaits but she does not have that soft huge floaty stride the hunters covet either.. maybe because she is on a lunge. I agree with Pennywell Bay, I don't see screaming dressage movement but I'm sure she'd be just as fine in dressage as whatever discipline you put her towards..

          Besides, what's more important in HJ land is the quality of her canter and ability to jump..

          To me though (and genuinely I mean no offense by this) that movement behind that someone is describing as "hock action" to me looks like a tight and sore back? She looks tight in her stifles. In my experience they can get snappy with their hocks (also called "Tracky" since it's more common to see in TBs right off the track) because they're wanting to offload their sore stifles. Has she always moved that way?
          "i'm a slow learner, it's true."

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            This video is pre undersaddle ever and we discovered she does not like wearing boots. She moves better without the boots.

            ​​​​​​Pennywell Bay, I wouldn't give her up for the world! She's near and dear to my heart for a few reasons.

            halt, the "hock action" comments are coming from another trainer and another good friend. Both eventers.

            The vet examined her a year ago and she has some scar tissue in her low back likely due to her past owner who was jumping her at just 3 years old, under muscled. Plus she did race 3 times, retired sound. I got in contact with the trainer and she was growing so rapidly as a 2 yr old they decided she wasn't cut out to race as soon as they wanted. They travel to Florida for the winter and didn't want to spend the money and time on her. Vets cleared her to go in any direction without issue. For this reason I use a BOT back pad before/after working her and it has made a HUGE difference. The video is also taken before working with BOT.

            I will get a free lunging video of her to post

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            • #7
              Originally posted by TSJ13 View Post
              The "hock action" comments are coming from another trainer and another good friend. Both eventers.
              You have your answer...
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                Originally posted by TSJ13 View Post
                This video is pre undersaddle ever and we discovered she does not like wearing boots. She moves better without the boots.

                ​​​​​​Pennywell Bay, I wouldn't give her up for the world! She's near and dear to my heart for a few reasons.

                halt, the "hock action" comments are coming from another trainer and another good friend. Both eventers.

                The vet examined her a year ago and she has some scar tissue in her low back likely due to her past owner who was jumping her at just 3 years old, under muscled. Plus she did race 3 times, retired sound. I got in contact with the trainer and she was growing so rapidly as a 2 yr old they decided she wasn't cut out to race as soon as they wanted. They travel to Florida for the winter and didn't want to spend the money and time on her. Vets cleared her to go in any direction without issue. For this reason I use a BOT back pad before/after working her and it has made a HUGE difference. The video is also taken before working with BOT.

                I will get a free lunging video of her to post
                Well just my frank assessment but your eventer "friends" don't know what they're talking about, if they can't tell that your mare is "hocky" because she's sore..

                It's very common even in the best of race training care/management for TBs to get residual SI scarring and be very tight coming off the track. I really don't see a "hock action" horse here so much as an uncomfortable one. Glad to hear you've gotten it managed and are staying on top of it.
                "i'm a slow learner, it's true."

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