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    It was highly recommended to me by a trusted friend to take advantage of one of the lesson options on the Friday (yesterday) before the Anne Kursinski Cinic this weekend in Aubrey, Texas at Valhalla Equestrian. Knowing it would be a great experience since my green horse and I aren’t quite ready for an actual clinic I agreed and signed up.

    i then signed up on her website and busted my butt implementing her flatwork and as much of her concepts as possible. What I found out was it helped my horse and I sooooo much! I then started doing tons of research which left me terrified. Most of what I found was negative reviews and people who felt they were “unimportant” to her because they weren’t professionals. I was positive that I was going to leave in tears after reading all these things. I went anyways.

    So Friday afternoon I rode in on a 5yr old APHA gelding who I’ve had since conception and has never been to a professional trainer, all riding being done by me, and freshly switched from barrel training to jumping just this summer. I also have no real formal training in Elglish or jumping. Apparently my gelding knew I was beyond nervous and his response was to buck, a lot. Every single canter transition was full of attitude and he was trying to gain control. Along with his atittude when I was told to drop my stirrups and a trot he became super uncooperative and I’m sure it’s because I was tense. My gelding has NEVER been that bad and I have no doubt that it was my fault.

    Through ALL of this I worked my tail off in that lesson! Anne had every single opportunity to belittle my horse and I. Not once did she try. Instead she helped encourage me to push through it all, gave me MANY compliments on my form (which I didn’t think was good), while she coached me through the lesson on what to fix and when of course. Did she get a little snappy when my brain didn’t compute something instantly or I ended up stopping on a straight line instead of continuing on when I was supposed to? Yes, she’s there to coach, if the student doesn’t listen that happens. All in all I left on cloud 9. Sore too. The amount of compliments I received when I deserved them and the insights she had when I needed them when I was sure I was going to leave in tears was well worth it all! So I didn’t leave in tears and this little nobody who is quite embaressed by my horse’s antics left with a better view on myself and Anne actually said she really liked my horse and that he was cute. While he bucked quite a bit he also worked his tail off!

    Kudos if you made it through all that. Yes my horse is fine, and yes he’s been checked over. I was tense and he fed off of it and then I started anticipating the bucks so I’m sure I was bracey every time I asked for a canter departure without realizing it. My point is simply; don’t be afraid to try something, everyone will have their own opinion and experience. Until you experience it for yourself you’ll never know. My goal is to now make it to a 2-3 day clinic of hers!

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    Yay for getting through it! The good news is if you go back for a clinic and he acts at all like a normal horse, she will think you're an improvement superstar.

    And welcome to the BB!

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    • #3
      Glad to hear it!!!


      Funny enough, I initially planned to do that exact same clinic with my guy- until I read the reviews on Anne. After researching a bit, I pulled out (with plenty of advance notice- this was back in October). My guy is also somewhat green, and I didn't want to waste my money after reading such awful things about her and how she treats people in her clinics. Maybe if she comes back to Texas again I will give it a go after reading your rave review- so glad you had an amazing time!!!
      A blonde & her hunter:
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        Originally posted by HJdaydream View Post
        Glad to hear it!!!


        Funny enough, I initially planned to do that exact same clinic with my guy- until I read the reviews on Anne. After researching a bit, I pulled out (with plenty of advance notice- this was back in October). My guy is also somewhat green, and I didn't want to waste my money after reading such awful things about her and how she treats people in her clinics. Maybe if she comes back to Texas again I will give it a go after reading your rave review- so glad you had an amazing time!!!
        I actually did try to pull out when I lost my job but it was kind of last minute and they weren’t able to fill my slot. So I went. I met 3 VERY helpful people who calmed me down enough to be able to get on and ride! When I rode the day before at Valhalla he only bucked once (which is normal) so I DID expect him to behave much better then he did. Oh well.

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          Originally posted by MHM View Post
          Yay for getting through it! The good news is if you go back for a clinic and he acts at all like a normal horse, she will think you're an improvement superstar.

          And welcome to the BB!
          Thank you! My phone deleted my response to you when I hit quote on the next one! If I thought I could have stuck through the temper tantrum bucks after smacking him with the crop I would have! I seriously didn’t want to land face first in front of bleachers full of Auditors though! Lmao. We definitely have things to work on but I am much more confident in myself after the clinic! I seriously needed it and I’m so glad I went!

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          • #6
            I have looked at several Anne Kursinski clinic videos as well as reviews of her teaching. Have never heard one bad thing about her....only that she is very correct and exacting in the flatwork and is a stickler for the riders' position. I've watched several videos with her teaching and she is very positive, tho won't let riders skate by if they don't fix their position/way of riding. Never sounded nasty or condescending ala George...

            Would love to ride with her myself someday!
            Savor those rides where you feel like a million bucks, because there will be those where you feel like a cheap date...

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              Originally posted by Lusoluv View Post
              I have looked at several Anne Kursinski clinic videos as well as reviews of her teaching. Have never heard one bad thing about her....only that she is very correct and exacting in the flatwork and is a stickler for the riders' position. I've watched several videos with her teaching and she is very positive, tho won't let riders skate by if they don't fix their position/way of riding. Never sounded nasty or condescending ala George...

              Would love to ride with her myself someday!
              Thats exactly how she was in my lesson! Firm, fair, and quick to praise when you fixed the issue! She had soooo many opportunities to tell me I was in way over my head like I felt and yet helped me push through it! If you do a search on this forum, you’ll find a lot of negative experiences with her. I’m really glad I decided to go!

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              • #8
                AK has caught some flack on a personal basis over the years because of her honesty, she revealed a “me too” well before it was considered appropriate. And she can be as brutally honest about riders as her second mentor, GM...and we all know some can’t handle the truth and want to pay for sunshine blown up ther nether regions.

                Seen her teach, never had a problem with anything she said although may not have agreed with her and she can be blunter then ideal so some just don’t find her approach helpful. I never had the opportunity but would have ridden with her on any my horses over the years, which were never the brightest stars out there.

                JMO if a trainer doesn’t have at least some negative reviews and a disgruntled ex client or two, they probably aren’t being honest and doing their job.
                When opportunity knocks it's wearing overalls and looks like work.

                The horse world. Two people. Three opinions.

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                • #9
                  My daughter had the opportunity to ride with Anne about eight years ago when she was 14: She borrowed a friends experienced jumper. She originally was going to ride in the 3’3” to 3’6” section, but they moved her up to the 3’9” to 4’ section. It was a great experience. It was pouring outside, so the clinic was entirely in the covered ring, which is rare for So Cal. Anne is very precise. The hardest thing was when she had them turn their reins upside down and do the automatic release. My daughter said her abs hurt the next day. Anne was hardest on the trainers and some were quite awful. One trainer she tied the irons to the girth because his leg always slipped back and he threw his body at the horse at each jump. She talked with each rider at lunch about their riding goals, etc and was very nice and approachable. Here is the Youtube video. It is kind of dark being indoors, but you can get an idea.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mI3pg1RgS6g

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                  • #10
                    Beautiful riding PonyPenny, your daughter has a great two point. Why the wide hands, what was the exercise.

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                    • #11
                      I am glad you had a good experience with Anne. Unfortunately I cannot say the same. When I participated in one of her clinics, I experienced the belittling, demeaning, and honestly, just plain nasty that quite a few others have described on this forum. I am
                      not a quivering daisy and don't mind a tough coach at all. However, I do draw the line at the disrespectful attitude Anne had throughout the clinic towards me and a few others. You can teach people without belittling them.

                      The last straw came when my horse stopped and her solution was to go straight to the lunge whip. Now, I completely understand the notion of having the horse go forward at all times, and I don't think a little encouragement with the lounge whip (i.e. Holding it behind them as you approach the jump) is a heinous crime in those situations. However, this was different. Anne wanted me to hold my horse in front of the jump while she actually whipped her hind legs. I don't care what the situation is, whipping a horse's hind legs with a lunge whip, while asking the rider to "hold her there" giving her no place to get away, is NOT appropriate or fair to the horse. My horse continued stopping-- the lunge whip did nothing except scare her and escalate the situation. When I tried to explain to Anne that it was out of character for the horse to stop, and I didn't think it was her trying to be naughty, she didn't want to hear any of it. I ended up walking out with a genuinely terrified horse with some seriously shaken confidence. And I paid a nice chunk of change for it.

                      Again, I'm glad you had a good experience. I wish I could say the same.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Gestalt View Post
                        Beautiful riding PonyPenny, your daughter has a great two point. Why the wide hands, what was the exercise.
                        Yes, wide hands so you cannot touch the neck. The exercise was to have a independent seat, legs and hands.

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                        • #13
                          Driving reins is something you're almost certainly going to be doing, so I'd prepare for that for sure
                          ~Veronica
                          "The Son Dee Times" "Sustained" "Somerset" "Franklin Square"
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                          • #14
                            So glad to hear a good experience with her. I think too many people are quick to be offended and get their feelings hurt, when in fact, they need to realize to take a step back and actually do the steps an instructor is asking them to. Of course everyone has their own experiences, but I am so happy you enjoyed your time with Anne! I've heard many stories of people getting their feelings hurt from her.

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                            • #15
                              If you had a good experience than she wasn’t in a mood to tear you up. God help you if you catch her on the wrong day. The methods are a bit outdated and don’t apply to today’s warm blood horses. There is a reason why only local riders attend. No big names or horses are attached to her clinics because there are so many other relevant trainers and methods. If you are nostalgic for an old classic than attend otherwise money is better spent. I did ride in one of her clinics in 2009. She was out of control mean snd discouraging. If you had a good experience maybe she has gotten better at controlling her anger.

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                              • #16
                                Originally posted by Barney View Post
                                If you had a good experience than she wasn’t in a mood to tear you up. God help you if you catch her on the wrong day. The methods are a bit outdated and don’t apply to today’s warm blood horses. There is a reason why only local riders attend. No big names or horses are attached to her clinics because there are so many other relevant trainers and methods. If you are nostalgic for an old classic than attend otherwise money is better spent. I did ride in one of her clinics in 2009. She was out of control mean snd discouraging. If you had a good experience maybe she has gotten better at controlling her anger.
                                didn't she teach the USEF GM New Years clinics? I know Beezie did some, but I thought Anne was there, too.

                                that is hardly "local", those are the biggest names in eq/jumpers for that age group.

                                Not a TB in the group, LOL. Ok maybe there were but you know what I mean.

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                                • #17
                                  Glad to hear it turned out to be a good experience for you. I loved watching her recent clinic that was live streamed on her website. I've taken a few notes from it and applied them to my riding. I also loved how a lot of what she said (especially on the flat) was echoing what my trainer has been saying to me. I would love to be able to do a clinic with Anne at some point. She explains things well and I see results. For now, I just try to find things on youtube and save up my money!

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                                    #18
                                    Thank guys! Outdated? If the methods work then they certainly aren’t outdated. I don’t ride a fancy warmblood, I ride an APHA gelding that was supposed to be a barrel horse. All I do know is it was money well spent and her methods have helped me and my horse tremendously! I have always been the type of person to use what I like from multiple trainers and apply what works for me. Anne breaks things down great and is really good at gauging where your skill level is at.

                                    All I know is she had every single reason to rip into me and instead was very encouraging. Was she harder on the pros? Of course! She expects more out of them.

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                                    • #19
                                      Watch Kent Farmington or McClain’s Ward and tell me that they incorporate any of these methods. It’s not 1980 anymore and Hermès saddles are passé. I’m just saying riding and saddles are evolving money is better spent with a more modern American rider who is used to more modern saddles and horses. hernes saddles and thoroubreds are not a reality in 2018

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                                      • #20
                                        I would think that attending a clinic should have absolutely nothing to do with the type of horse you sit atop or the saddle you plant your butt in. That's why Anne relates so well to the riders who are more local level perhaps. Not everyone is gifted enough to ride a six figure import or plant their behind in a 6k CWD.

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