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  • What is "In" in the hunter ring?

    I decided to make the switch back after a 5 year hiatus in dressage land and need new tack. I suppose I could pick up a magazine but would like some fashion input from those showing. What colour tack? Wide or narrow nosebands? padded? fancy stiched or plain? Half pads or numnahs? Thanks.

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    Seeing A LOT of the Charles Owen helmets.. not so many GPA's. Still dark hunt coats.. navy, browns etc. Breeches either Taylor Made grey green or yellow green colors. Some of the boots I have seen have the patent leather tops and toe caps.. I see a bit of bling only on belts - w/ crowns and crystals. No shirt pins. Either plain or monogramed. Shirts are white, yellow, pink, salmon, blue etc.. light colors

    Medium to dark colored tack is in. Bridles are not thick but not really thin. Plain rolled is what I have been seeing. Saddles "must" have knee rolls.

    Pads are the fuzzy white that trims neatly around the saddle.

    In our area this is pretty much the norm. Might depend on where you are.... have fun and good luck....
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      Saddles "must" have knee rolls
      Pencil OK? Padded flaps? or plain flap ok?

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      • #4
        As long as you're neat and clean, and you put in a good trip, you'll get a ribbon

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        • #5
          Originally posted by heartinrye View Post
          As long as you're neat and clean, and you put in a good trip, you'll get a ribbon
          This.

          I know fashion and being up to date with what is popular is a fun part of showing for a lot of people. But what really irks me is the rider, dressed to the nines in all the latest, and most expensive get-up who can't.ride.for.anything.

          Seriously, invest that fashion money into lessons and training, for you are scary and putting me into early labor.

          carry on!
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            "Seriously, invest that fashion money into lessons and training, for you are scary and putting me into early labor."

            Yeah, I thought about that but asking my coach to jump my horse in my lovely custom Dutch Hulsebos dressage saddle would probably cause her to have a baby and she isn't even pregnant.

            I'm not asking to be a massive snob. I just have to start from square on as the only thing hunter I own is a cheap HDR bridle and an orange crosby girth. I was so convinced I wasn't going to jump anymore that I gave away my field boots. How do you think the custom super stiff Konigs are going to do me (please note sacasm)? Are half chaps and paddock boots actually allowed now?

            I'm not looking for the most earth shatteringly expensive ideas but when starting from scratch it would be nice not to get stuff that makes you look like a total dork.

            Also my mare is extremely hard to fit a saddle to because she is so wide.

            Besides... Hunter Princess is a down grade as I used to be a queen! (just kidding)

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            • #7
              I believe and understand that you don't need the 100,000 WB and the CWD saddle and the Charles Owen helmet to win... I know this because growing up, I had the 200.00 Appy and whatever else my parents could afford.. and we still won... A good ride is a good ride.. neat and tidy is the key...

              However, the OP asked "whats IN" in the Hunter ring. So I only answered the question; What's in. ;-))
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              • #8
                Are half chaps and paddock boots actually allowed now?
                Nope.

                I'd start with a brown close contact saddle that actually fits your horse. Most people don't like the flat saddles, but I do, and if it's shaped like a close contact it doesn't matter. I'd skip anything shaped like an all purpose, I don't like jumping in mine.

                A matching brown bridle. Your preferences are your preferences - whatever flatters your horse. Some people really like the ones with big padding, others don't. My horse shows in a double half round 1970s crosby bridle or a fancy stitched brown bridle with fancy stitched reins. It should match your saddle and NEITHER SHOULD BE ORANGE NO MATTER WHAT. If it is, oil the hell out of it with darkening oil and sit it in the sun until it isn't anymore.

                Breeches are typically of a heavier material. I suppose "in" would be tailored sportsmans, ariats, pikeur - any of the better brands, really. Buy what fits, avoid anything too grossly skin colored or too tight. The "heavy cotton" ones are flattering on nobody. Wear a belt.

                Shirts and coats are your preference, they change about once a week. Navy and white is always appropriate - always wear a long sleeved show shirt. A used good wool coat is a better investment than a cheap nylon one for the same price. My navy coat was $25 on sale and is wool.

                Field boots - the higher tops and tapered ankles are in because they're more flattering to your leg. Skip any boots with any kind of "top" unless you have earned your colors with a recognized hunt, otherwise it is just tacky.

                ASTM/SEI approved helmet. We see a lot of Charles Owens and GPAs, but buy what fits your head. Do your hair appropriately.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Trixie View Post
                  Nope.
                  Well, if you happen to be in Canada, paddock boots and half chaps are allowed so long as they're the same colour.

                  You're going to need a close contact saddle that fits you and your horse. Knee rolls, thigh blocks etc. are in style but optional, buy whatever is comfortable to you and fits your budget. Nobody can really tell if your saddle is outdated or not once you're in it.

                  Buy a matching bridle that flatters your horse's face. Padded, raised, fancy stitched, etc. are all in style. Take a look at what is offered by brands like Antares, Edgewood, Hadfields etc. You don't actually have to purchase such an expensive bridle, but it will give you an idea of what people are buying.

                  All the leather should be somewhere in between havanaish and dark brown. No orange!

                  For your first basic show outfit I would buy a navy show coat (don't be afraid of good quality used ones) in a brand like Grand Prix, Ariat, Tailored Sportsman, RJ Classics, etc. A white shirt and beigey/greeny breeches in a brand like Ariat, Tailored Sportsman, RJ Classics, etc. Again, you don't have to buy from the pricier brands but it will give you an idea of what's popular.

                  If you need field boots in the states, Mountain Horse and Grand Prix are both nice brands at a more affordable price.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by englishivy View Post
                    But what really irks me is the rider, dressed to the nines in all the latest, and most expensive get-up who can't.ride.for.anything.


                    So, if they can't ride, they should be outfitted like a cheap trick?

                    To the OP, have a blast shopping! Others have offered great advice. If you have a good local tack store, go in and throw yourself on the mercy of an expert!
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                    • #11
                      What's in? 8 jumps, good front end, prompt lead changes, an even pace.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Go Fish View Post


                        So, if they can't ride, they should be outfitted like a cheap trick?
                        Yes, I think if you are learning to ride/a beginner rider, you should have to wear rubber boots and plastic helmets b/c you don't deserve to look the part. (*sarcasm).

                        No, I'm talking about the riders that really should invest in their riding first and fashion second. When one spends more money, time, and energy into "looking the part" and not "being the part", it takes away from the spirit of the sport, usually at the horse's expense.

                        I have no problem with people liking fashion. I have no problem with people wanting to be up to date with trends. What I don't like is seeing horses that are in fake frames, no hind end engagement, stiff backs, no topline, and yanking their knees to their eyeballs while they belly-out o/f. Or riders not giving any release o/f, stirrups too long, bodies disconnected and minds not thinking. All the custom tack and trendy apparel doesn't change any of that.

                        Forgive me for being snarky, but I'm over it.

                        OP-go have fun and focus on the ride. Visit your local tack shop and ask them for advice if you really want some new digs. They will know what is really "in" for your area anyway. My point for you is that fashion doesn't make the round; with a good ride, nobody will care what color your jacket is.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by englishivy View Post
                          All the custom tack and trendy apparel doesn't change any of that.
                          You're right, fancy tack and fashion doesn't make you a good rider, but I suspect that those that can afford all of the custom tack and trendy apparel are not in a financial situation that forces them to choose between new fancy tack and lessons.

                          They might just be more concerned with the tack and fashion than working on what is imparted to them in lessons.
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                          • #14
                            Echoing whoever said half chaps and paddock boots are ok, there is a specific comment in the EC rules about them having to be leather-like. I think that's so you don't accidentally wear your neon Gore-Tex endurance gaiters. You see half chaps and paddock boots in our "A" rated shows, usually on younger kids or else in the lower Adult Ammy classes.

                            Different culture maybe, but do the USEF rules say "no half chaps?" I suppose it might also depend on individual show rules.

                            I also recently got told again that a darker gray or navy coat will never be out of style. Other colours come and go.
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                            • #15
                              The USEF rules for hunters specify NO CHAPS. When we called to ask if this meant no half chaps that look like boots, they said those are still considered chaps. I'm sure it's up to the individual judge to notice, but I wouldn't chance being marked down over something that arbitrary.

                              No, I'm talking about the riders that really should invest in their riding first and fashion second. When one spends more money, time, and energy into "looking the part" and not "being the part", it takes away from the spirit of the sport, usually at the horse's expense.

                              I have no problem with people liking fashion. I have no problem with people wanting to be up to date with trends. What I don't like is seeing horses that are in fake frames, no hind end engagement, stiff backs, no topline, and yanking their knees to their eyeballs while they belly-out o/f. Or riders not giving any release o/f, stirrups too long, bodies disconnected and minds not thinking. All the custom tack and trendy apparel doesn't change any of that.

                              Forgive me for being snarky, but I'm over it
                              Honestly? You're being ridiculous.

                              Wanting to look appropriate is not synonymous with riding like crap. It's also not a statement that a rider is going to fail to take lessons or train properly, in the interest of purchasing expensive breeches and a bling belt. In fact, I think that asking about what is modern and appropriate shows a rider who is doing their homework and making sure they have all their basis covered properly before showing up at a horse show.

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                              • #16
                                Originally posted by Rival View Post
                                Besides... Hunter Princess is a down grade as I used to be a queen! (just kidding)
                                Bwahahahah!! Best line ever

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                                • #17
                                  Originally posted by klmck63 View Post
                                  You're right, fancy tack and fashion doesn't make you a good rider, but I suspect that those that can afford all of the custom tack and trendy apparel are not in a financial situation that forces them to choose between new fancy tack and lessons.
                                  Thank you. That was the point I was trying to make but it went over EnglishIvy's head. I didn't read anywhere in the OP's post where he/she indicated that they were sacrificing lessons/training to be a fashion plate.

                                  It's tiresome, sometimes, to have people disparage others who want to spend their money as they see fit. How presumptious to say to the OP that they should spend his/her money on lessons first. Guess what? Some of us have the means to do both.
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                                  • #18
                                    Originally posted by Trixie View Post
                                    Honestly? You're being ridiculous.

                                    Wanting to look appropriate is not synonymous with riding like crap. It's also not a statement that a rider is going to fail to take lessons or train properly, in the interest of purchasing expensive breeches and a bling belt. In fact, I think that asking about what is modern and appropriate shows a rider who is doing their homework and making sure they have all their basis covered properly before showing up at a horse show.

                                    Takes away from the spirit of the sport?
                                    Ok, read my first post. I'm not talking about looking appropriate; absolutely look appropriate and proper. I'm totally into the tradition of hunters. But asking what is proper is NOT the same as asking what is in style. And being in style is fine too. I'm talking about riders that want to look like $1M bucks but don't want to ride like $1M bucks.

                                    You know, I actually had a (former) client who wouldn't put her horse on Adequan despite the vets, the farrier, and my recommendation. The reason? It was too expensive. But she owned FOUR show coats and about 10 show shirts. The irony: she always dropped the coats when jackets were waived. For her, being "in" was more important than her horse. Hence why she is a former client....

                                    Say what you will, I'm in a foul mood as of late...but hey, being 37 weeks along in the heat will do that to you
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                                    • #19
                                      Originally posted by Go Fish View Post
                                      Thank you. That was the point I was trying to make but it went over EnglishIvy's head. I didn't read anywhere in the OP's post where he/she indicated that they were sacrificing lessons/training to be a fashion plate.

                                      It's tiresome, sometimes, to have people disparage others who want to spend their money as they see fit. How presumptious to say to the OP that they should spend his/her money on lessons first. Guess what? Some of us have the means to do both.
                                      No, you misread MY post. I never implied the OP needed more lessons. Just that I enjoy when someone can ride as well as they look fashion wise.

                                      I was saying that she shouldn't worry too much about fashion; a GOOD RIDE IS A GOOD RIDE.

                                      Sheesh people.

                                      ETA-in reading my first post, it may appear to you guys I was saying to the OP specificlly to invest in lessons. My bad. I was talking about those who haven't invested in their riding but have invested in their fashion. THOSE people are scaring me....not the OP.
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                                      • #20
                                        This may be repetitive with what others have said, but what I've seen as being in for hunters: contoured full pads (not half pads), medium to dark brown tack, saddles with padded flaps, charles owen helmets, dark coats with light shirts, field boots with high spanish tops, D ring bits. I've heard black hunt coats are in style, but I still see navy the most. Even the fleecy girths and sheepskin-lined front boots (for eq) that have been popular in recent years seem to be out. Generally, a more traditional, conservative look seems to be back in style in the hunters.

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