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McLain Ward and FEI: UPDATE

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  • McLain Ward and FEI: UPDATE

    http://www.dressage-news.com/?p=6433
    one oak, lots of canyons

    http://horsesportnews.wordpress.com/

  • #2
    What a mess.

    "If you have the time, spend it. If you have a hand, lend it. If you have the money, give it. If you have a heart, share it." by me

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    • #3
      Mess is when your dog poops in your bed because you gave it fried chicken thinking it was going to be okay. Mess is what you get after you eat at that questionable but fun Mexican joint in the shopping center across from your neighborhood where the cervezas are $1.50 on Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday with any order of the nacho platter. Mess is that corner of your garage where you know there are mice nesting but you're too lazy to clear it out and you are afraid of mice so you really don't care enough to do it even if you weren't lazy. This is more like a spat between Alec Baldwin and Kim Basinger. Crazy, slightly entertaining, and very ridiculous.
      Thus do we growl that our big toes have, at this moment, been thrown up from below!

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        #4
        Is this not a mess because it happened to this particular rider?
        Or because it happened to a show jumper rider and they are all walking the fine line all the time between legal/illegal?

        Or is this not a mess because this does not seem to affect horse sport in the U.S?

        To me, the idea that certain elements in international horse sport feel they can DQ a rider on purely subjective grounds with no possibility of appeal --this IS a mess.

        And a bigger mess than any of the examples above unless the nachos got fed to a wooly mammoth.
        <g>
        one oak, lots of canyons

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        • #5
          We have already examined this "mess" not too long ago to the tune of 20 pages or so.

          It has run it's course and disappeared along with last night's nachos...although I am sure it will come up (so to speak keeping to this metaphor) when the FEI gets off the pot here and makes a ruling. Either way, nobody will like whatever that may be.
          When opportunity knocks it's wearing overalls and looks like work.

          The horse world. Two people. Three opinions.

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          • #6
            It is a mess... now, test results come back...and forever we'll have anxiety about the FEI officials . No matter what, I will be anxious that officials will be capricious in decisions which really matter. It was done out of the US to an endearing horse. It's a mess because no matter what... it's politics. It's sad. it's sickening. So yes this thread subject has been beat to death and when the drug results come out it'll take another round of hits.
            I for one will never feel comfortable nor trust the FEI and their decisions when it comes to US horses.

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            • #7
              I do appreciate that the article stated the officials were acting on a tip. That is the first time I remember that being mentioned. I did NOT follow the COTH thread, so if was said there, I missed it. It will be interesting to see what comes of the final ruling.
              Platinum Equestrian - Florida, USA

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Platinum Equestrian View Post
                I do appreciate that the article stated the officials were acting on a tip. That is the first time I remember that being mentioned. I did NOT follow the COTH thread, so if was said there, I missed it.

                Yeah, you did. It was mentioned in the original news item linked to along with other articals and their links and discussed ad nauseum throughout the trainwreck. Alomg with the fact the horse that won was...ummmm...very obviously a "little off" but nobody dropped a dime.
                When opportunity knocks it's wearing overalls and looks like work.

                The horse world. Two people. Three opinions.

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                • #9
                  LexinVA, you are so very wrong. This type of call on the part of the INTERNATIONAL governing body for equestrian sport makes it impossible to compete with any sense of security or fairness. This isn't the first time the FEI has made decisions clearly favoring a country or person (dressage judging, anyone?), and it has got to stop! Contrary to what they believe, they are NOT god, nor are they operating with all countries on a level playing field, as they espouse. I hope McLain and the USEF fight this to the end, and if it happens again, to whomever, that they also choose to fight, until this corrupt organization is forced to restructure and re-evaluate its role in international competition. It is NOT a "mess" to be blown off, even though it doesn't directly involve you. Trust me, someday it will, as there is a clear trickle down history with the FEI.

                  Also, we only have the FEI's "word" that there was a tip. Not inclined to take their "word" on anything.
                  Laurie

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by findeight View Post
                    Yeah, you did. It was mentioned in the original news item linked to along with other articals and their links and discussed ad nauseum throughout the trainwreck. Alomg with the fact the horse that won was...ummmm...very obviously a "little off" but nobody dropped a dime.
                    I'm confused... Yeah, I did what??? I'm not sure what you are trying to say. Please explain.
                    Platinum Equestrian - Florida, USA

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Platinum Equestrian View Post
                      I'm confused... Yeah, I did what??? I'm not sure what you are trying to say. Please explain.
                      You drank the OJ from the jug. Fess up!
                      Thus do we growl that our big toes have, at this moment, been thrown up from below!

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                      • #12
                        The FEI is a disgrace and has been for some time. I hope Mclain has a very good lawyer.
                        Roseknoll Sporthorses
                        www.roseknoll.net

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by LexInVA View Post
                          You drank the OJ from the jug. Fess up!
                          English please? Again, what did I do.
                          Platinum Equestrian - Florida, USA

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Platinum Equestrian View Post
                            English please? Again, what did I do.
                            You missed it in the original thread.
                            Michael: Seems the people who burned me want me for a job.
                            Sam: A job? Does it pay?
                            Michael: Nah, it's more of a "we'll kill you if you don't do it" type of thing.
                            Sam: Oh. I've never liked those.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Grataan View Post
                              You missed it in the original thread.
                              Grataan Thanks. I don't think that's exactly what they were trying to say, but I like your translation. I think they need to read a little closer in my original post when I said I didn't follow it on COTH.

                              findeight I think you forgot to take your lithium this morning.
                              Platinum Equestrian - Florida, USA

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                              • #16
                                Originally posted by lauriep View Post
                                Also, we only have the FEI's "word" that there was a tip. Not inclined to take their "word" on anything.
                                I'm inclined to believe there was a tip if for no other reason than how/when the FEI dropped that little bomb made them appear possibly more ridiculous than before (no small feat). I am desperately clinging to the idea that they are not so stupid that they thought that would improve their position in the ensuing Press Wars, just that they were stupid and oops, let it slip.

                                I didn't realize until this latest development that the FEI samples were pulled 30 hours later. See, now that is FEI incompetence working FOR the FEI. If the samples are clean, the FEI can claim that the substance cleared the system and after 30 hours they may not be incorrect. Pity the US pulled samples immediately.
                                Your crazy is showing. You might want to tuck that back in.

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                                • #17
                                  So why the delay in releasing the test results? Is this their way of saying, "We are the Almighty, Omnipotent FEI and we will do whatever we want, whenever we want, in whichever manner we choose. Challenge us at your own risk"?

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                                  • #18
                                    Originally posted by Mara View Post
                                    So why the delay in releasing the test results? Is this their way of saying, "We are the Almighty, Omnipotent FEI and we will do whatever we want, whenever we want, in whichever manner we choose. Challenge us at your own risk"?
                                    There is a delay b/c the FEI realizes there is a whole lot of exposure on this ruling. This was an anti american act by foreigners who did not want to see McClain Ward win the World Cup Finals...no ifs ands or buts. He was robbed! If the FEI pulls this crap again the USEF should boycott the World Cup in the future.

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                                    • #19
                                      McLain won the GP in La Baule today - on Sapphire -

                                      where's the Pfuiiiit to the FEI icon?
                                      "Her life was okay. Sometimes she wished she were sleeping with the right man instead of with her dog, but she never felt she was sleeping with the wrong dog."



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                                      • #20
                                        After the first few pages, I stopped reading the train wreck, and I only read the NYT article after it was mentioned in this thread -- I think the situation is terribly unfair, but the rule says the decision made at the competition is final, so I don't expect any attempt to make the situation right --

                                        I did find it interesting that USEF lawyers are working McLain's case -- I wonder if they were ever asked to review the FEI rule changes before they were approved -- I believe the US was in favor of these changes when they were voted on last year -- When I read the rule used to disqualify Saphire, I had to wonder who let that wording slip in --
                                        "I never mind if an adult uses safety stirrups." GM

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