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So what's the story about Lizzie Traband?

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  • So what's the story about Lizzie Traband?

    Is she as legitimate as her website and her family farm's site make her out to be? Because frankly, I have a hard time seeing an 11 year old as being a "clinician" or "trainer" of any degree. Especially with trick training and stunt riding.

    And then she apparently shows hunters too. Is she any good in the show ring?

    I'm just curious because I've seen her pop up a few times around the internet and I was wondering what other people feel about her "Taiji Horsemanship" and general riding.

    IMHO, she seems like an girl who only gets the attention she does because she has a disability and can do some tricks.
    Tru : April 14, 1996 - March 14, 2011
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    a friend of mine boarded with them and said the child is quite inspiring but the parents are a bit much and pushing the kid more than they should....they spend more time worrying about the kid then taking care of their boarders

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      I saw her ride a big moving hunter last fall in harrisburg at the Pennsylvania state 4-H finals. I t was a very crowded ring and she rode beautifully.

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        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLFYigeVinU

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        • #5
          she may be a good little rider, but the website reads like it was written by an 11 year old. I had to stop reading it...if she wants to be taken a little more seriously, someone needs to go in there and do some editing.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by katie+tru View Post

            IMHO, she seems like an girl who only gets the attention she does because she has a disability and can do some tricks.
            Well, she obviously can ride, and she has a disability that one would think would make it more difficult for her to ride, so, yes, why wouldn't she get attention?

            The "Taiji Horsemanship" part of the Website strikes me as slick marketing, though — not the work of a horse-crazy 11-year-old.
            "Go on, Bill — this is no place for a pony."

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            • #7
              Originally posted by InWhyCee Redux View Post
              Well, she obviously can ride, and she has a disability that one would think would make it more difficult for her to ride, so, yes, why wouldn't she get attention?

              The "Taiji Horsemanship" part of the Website strikes me as slick marketing, though — not the work of a horse-crazy 11-year-old.
              I agree 100% with this

              I have never heard of her til now. Yes, she can ride and she has Tommie Turvey marketing her..lol. Despite her disability she is a lucky kid. I bet she is not the only one handed person riding in the world
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                I like the horse!

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                  I can't comment as to the whole trainer, clinician, and everything else thing, but I have seen her ride at horse shows (just schooling though) and I thought she was a very good rider. The schooling rings were very crowded and she handled it better than some of the other people trying to school!
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                  • #10
                    It looks like she attaches the left rein to a strap on her left upper arm using a snap of some sort? I had to look at a lot of her jumping pictures to see that, though. I distinctly saw a double end snap in one picture. Although in a few other pictures she appeared to have her left arm tucked along her side. Of course, in the bridleless pictures it isn't an issue!

                    For those who have seen her in person, am I seeing that right?
                    Originally posted by tidy rabbit
                    Oh, well, clearly you're not thoroughly indoctrinated to COTH yet, because finger pointing and drawing conclusions are the cornerstones of this great online community.

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                    • #11
                      They used to use a fixed strap that was connected to her hook. Now they use some sort of stretchy band that "gives" more.

                      They're local, so we see them at the shows. She's a good kid.

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                      • #12
                        I've never heard of her until just now, but looking at her website, what an amazing girl she is.
                        Last edited by Mimi La Rue; May. 6, 2010, 05:16 PM.
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                          i was pretty impressed with the girl and her horses! wow what a disability she has and she looks so relaxed and at ease jumping her horses. i wonder if she would ever do the equitation? she looks like she could be a winner!

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                            Originally posted by Nootka View Post
                            I agree 100% with this

                            I have never heard of her til now. Yes, she can ride and she has Tommie Turvey marketing her..lol. Despite her disability she is a lucky kid. I bet she is not the only one handed person riding in the world
                            Nope.
                            I had a boarder many years ago who was missing part of an arm.
                            She was so competent I never even noticed it until one day she asked me for help tightening a girth on her youngster.
                            "It's like a Russian nesting doll of train wrecks."--CaitlinandTheBay

                            ...just settin' on the Group W bench.

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                              I was curious as to if there was anything forbidding a rider from attaching the reins to his or her body -- kind of like how it is illegal to tie your stirrups to your feet or to your girth. There is NOTHING about it in the hunter or eq section, except of course, stipulations about the hand position that clearly wouldn't apply to Lizzy. There are also stipulations about picking up all your reins at the same time, etc.

                              However, there is some very specific stuff about it in the dressage section, and they even have a secion about disabled riders.

                              DR117 The Position and Aids of the Rider.
                              3. Riding with both hands is obligatory at all national and International Dressage Events.
                              However, riding with one hand is permitted in the Freestyle Tests and when leaving the arena.
                              Individuals holding a Federation Dispensation Certificate may use bridged or special adaptive
                              reins for use with one or no hand(s), if their physical limitations require such and the equipment
                              is listed on the Dispensation Certificate.
                              So it seems like if she wanted to show rated stuff -- or even the big eq -- there would be a protocol for a dispensation for riding with one hand. I would hope that it wouldn't be counted against her in the eq.

                              The kid looks great and her horses are cute! I can't speak to the level of her involvement in her own marketing, though!
                              Originally posted by tidy rabbit
                              Oh, well, clearly you're not thoroughly indoctrinated to COTH yet, because finger pointing and drawing conclusions are the cornerstones of this great online community.

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                              • #16
                                Originally posted by Nootka View Post
                                I agree 100% with this

                                I have never heard of her til now. Yes, she can ride and she has Tommie Turvey marketing her..lol. Despite her disability she is a lucky kid. I bet she is not the only one handed person riding in the world
                                While I was training in Ireland, there was a rider who rode cross-county and only had the use of one arm. He managed to ride at 1.1m+ heights with no problem using just one hand. Of course, the place where I was training actually trained all their riders how to jump without reins (something that isn't seen too often anymore in the US due to liability issues and a litigious society).

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                                • #17
                                  I don't know about her as a "trainer" or "clinician" or whatever, but I watched a few of the videos on the site and I think she looks soft and effective. If I needed a pony jock, I definitely wouldn't discount her!

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                                    Originally posted by Dun Ciarain View Post
                                    While I was training in Ireland, there was a rider who rode cross-county and only had the use of one arm. He managed to ride at 1.1m+ heights with no problem using just one hand. Of course, the place where I was training actually trained all their riders how to jump without reins (something that isn't seen too often anymore in the US due to liability issues and a litigious society).

                                    We jump without reins at our barn a lot, actually. Started doing that when I was like, 14. Definitely beneficial to anyone who jumps, at any level.
                                    Tru : April 14, 1996 - March 14, 2011
                                    Thank you for everything boy.


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                                    • #19
                                      I don't know anything about this particular girl, but I distinctly remember seeing a photo of a girl without any arms at all jumping a 3ft something oxer.
                                      She had her reins attached to the stirrups and did her steering with her feet. Over the top of the jump you could see her lower leg coming forward to follow her horses mouth. Pretty cool but i'm guessing it would be hard to do over bigger jumps!
                                      Timothy, stop lurking

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                                      • #20
                                        Originally posted by Ghazzu View Post
                                        Nope.
                                        I had a boarder many years ago who was missing part of an arm.
                                        She was so competent I never even noticed it until one day she asked me for help tightening a girth on her youngster.
                                        And back about, oh 1983 or so, there was a girl in CT who did the jumpers and had about the same length of limb as this girl appears to have. One of her reins ended in a loop that she would put around the end of her humerus.

                                        I believe she would actually introduce herself as "Lefty."
                                        Life would be infinitely better if pinatas suddenly appeared throughout the day.

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