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Spinoff of the snootie patootie-downright MEAN kids!!

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  • Spinoff of the snootie patootie-downright MEAN kids!!

    Background: There are two girls that ride at my barn, they go to high school together. One is a loud outgoing senior, one a shy quiet freshman. Both show jumpers, both own one horse, both horses are 14 year old stallions. Seniors horse is a grey FIREBOLT (would win all the classes, but rider usually makes dumb mistakes, like going off course, etc), freshman's horse is chestnut, steady and safe. They compete against each other every week of the year basically, and as to who does better it's split down the middle. It's the classic turtle and the hare scenario.

    Last month: Barn staff thought freshman's horse was colicking, he ended up going to the clinic. Long story short, he had an infection and they ended up emergency gelding him, but no colic surgery. He is now home, and doing great.

    Everytime these girls come to ride at the same time, which is frequently, the senior WILL. NOT. STOP. making jokes. All she says is Oh hi GELDING. missing something? And walks down the aisle like, where is MY STALLION. Trainer says do the course, and she says, the GELDING can go first. I overheard her telling her "friend" that her parent's should sell her GELDING now, since he won't have the stamina to be a jumper any more. She used to just take her horse for grass, now she is GRAZING MY STALLION. Is MY STALLION going to get body clipped today? Instead of is Pharoah showing next week, it's is THE GELDING showing?

    I know MYOB, and I know they will grow out of it, I just hate the tension it creates. I feel like we are in that movie Mean Girls. The poor freshman believes all that crap too, and looks like the wind has been let out of her sails.


    Anyway, thanks for listening. Teenage girls are MEAN!
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    Can juniors even show stallions in the states? They sure can't in Canada.

    Anyways, as a recipient of my fair share of teenage girl awfulness (and hopefully not a perpetrator, so far as I know) it would be nice of you to say something kind (about the gelding situation or something unrelated) to the other girl if the opportunity to do so casually arises and it seems like the other girl is getting to her. It's a nice way to help the situation a little bit while still minding your own business and not getting involved in a confrontation that will likely only make things worse. I wish everyone could just be nice and get along, but it's not the case and things like this happen everywhere there are teenage girls.
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    • #3
      Gem Twist
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      Lots of geldings get the job done.
      You could remind her of that, also how good it will feel the next time she beats her. It is tough to watch but a part of growing up and getting thick skin. I played very competative sports at that age and you just learn to dish it back. If the freshman really thinks the best thing about her horse was his balls...well maybe she needs to grow up too. Crap like that only gets to you if some part of you thinks it is true.

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      • #4
        Well, you know what you have to do, right?

        Cut his balls off.

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        • #5
          Why on earth would two junior riders have two stallions?
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          • #6
            huh? how can they compete? is this in the US?? is it a local unrated circuit ?? most of the unrated local circuits around here still keep many of the USEF rules regarding jr's and stallions..
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            • #7
              Juniors can show stallions in Jumpers for sure, just not Pony Jumpers.

              JP113 Eligibility.
              2. Stallions. Junior riders may show stallions. (Exception: Stallions are prohibited in Pony
              Jumper Sections. See JP118.4)
              Teens these days are just down right obnoxious and disrespectful. The trainer certainly isnt helping either. Geldings are just as capable of performing as well as stallions. I hope the freshman girl will just ignore any other comments.

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              • #8
                Ugh, that is just like a relationship I had with one of my friends. But, generally, she was just jealous of what I had. She would make fun of my horses constantly and compete for attention constantly. Drove me crazy!

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                • #9
                  What trainer wants his junior students to actually own stallions?

                  That is just asking for trouble if you ask me.

                  Who cares, they are testicles-one of them now has a fully functioning brain and the other still has to share a blood supply.
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                  • #10
                    Oh good lord. I think ignoring the mean girl comments or perhaps just shooting her a "do you even know how stupid you sound right now" look is the best way to go.

                    There's no need to defend the recently gelded horse, he will defend himself in time. Mean girl is just looking for a cheap laugh and if she won't get it she will quit her petty remarks.

                    In the mean while, if it gets to be too much, perhaps a quite and grown up remark about how you feel for the horse who had to undergo surgery (leaving why unsaid) and how dangerous it can be to have to put a horse under, how you feel for his owner and root for them etc will make her think about it in a more serious way.
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                      #11
                      Yeah, usually I just ignore it. BUt the other day they were BOTH in my lesson and I wanted to kill the one girl. I just said, Pharoah looks so well! I bet he's happy to be home. But the other one kept butting in about how he'd be HAPPIER if he still had his um, "parts". and then giggling.

                      grrrrr.... teenage girls

                      And yes, these are jumpers we're talking.
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                      • #12
                        I'd tell the younger kid that Gem Twist was a gelding. If you and she are friendly, you can explain to her the meaning of the great phrase, "Well bless your heart." That would give you two a little in-joke, too, which might help the younger girl feel less alienated.

                        If you're feeling really bold, you might mention how obsessed the older girl seems to be with the horse's man-parts.

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                        • #13
                          What planet does this girl come from where its so special to have a stallion?? I've worked with plenty of stallions (including riding two as a junior, and trust me, no one thought I was all that for having a stallion, I was just another rider), and I would take a gelding any day! Not only are they usually more sensible, but it is much easier to take them places. What you guys are saying about juniors not being able to ride stallions in Canada? I was planning on taking one of them to Spruce as a junior one year and I couldn't. I loved this stallion dearly and he was the sweetest, most mellow boy you could find, but even so, his very much present parts were still a challenge, even if just logistically.

                          That girl has a very serious reality check coming her way in the future. I am also beginning to doubt the sanity of this stable. BNT or not, in my barn, if a girl had been acting like that, she would have been asked to shape up or ship out. It makes the stable look bad.

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                            Originally posted by ericalynn89 View Post
                            Teens these days are just down right obnoxious and disrespectful. The trainer certainly isnt helping either. Geldings are just as capable of performing as well as stallions. I hope the freshman girl will just ignore any other comments.
                            Pardon me for getting somewhat off topic, but I absolutely hate comments like this. It is such a huge generalization caused by a few bad apples. I'm not saying that they don't exist; they do and I've had many of my own lovely experiences with catty girls, but that is certainly not representative of the whole teenage population.

                            Just my humble thoughts, of course, but it always gets me a little irritated when people generalize like that. My parents would never allow me to be anything other than polite and courteous to everyone and my friends' parents, at least for the most part, are the same way.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by lesgarcons View Post
                              If you're feeling really bold, you might mention how obsessed the older girl seems to be with the horse's man-parts.
                              "You seem unusually obsessed with testicles. Is there something you want to talk about?"

                              Or more directly "Oh will you shut up? And grow up? We're trying to ride here!"

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                              • #16
                                Originally posted by ericalynn89 View Post
                                Teens these days are just down right obnoxious and disrespectful. The trainer certainly isnt helping either. Geldings are just as capable of performing as well as stallions. I hope the freshman girl will just ignore any other comments.
                                Originally posted by supershorty628 View Post
                                Pardon me for getting somewhat off topic, but I absolutely hate comments like this. It is such a huge generalization caused by a few bad apples. I'm not saying that they don't exist; they do and I've had many of my own lovely experiences with catty girls, but that is certainly not representative of the whole teenage population.

                                Just my humble thoughts, of course, but it always gets me a little irritated when people generalize like that. My parents would never allow me to be anything other than polite and courteous to everyone and my friends' parents, at least for the most part, are the same way.

                                Carry on!
                                "These days" have no corner on the market of disrespectful and obnoxious teenagers. (I used the old-fashioned word "teenagers," so you can bet I've witnessed this for a long time. ) However, it is only SOME teens who, from time immorial, have been downright obnoxious and disrespectful. There are plenty of teens, many right here on this board, who would never behave like this awful mean girl in the OP. Supershorty is a great example!
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                                • #17
                                  Certainly seems to be more drama in OPs barn then most. Every week or so lately... burned out 11 yo Pony kid forced to ride 10 a day, pushing a sour GP horse doing 40+ GPs a year on an older Hunter rider, now this.

                                  That older kid cannot throw jibes at the younger one unless the younger one listens to her, the younger enables the nastiness.

                                  So does the trainer. Most that work with kids this age don't tolerate disrespect of others in their barn and business.
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                                  • #18
                                    My trainer wouldn't put up with it from kids or adults. Out motto is "Drama free for you and me!" Trainer needs to step in and put a stop to it.
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                                    • #19
                                      Originally posted by findeight View Post
                                      Certainly seems to be more drama in OPs barn then most. Every week or so lately... burned out 11 yo Pony kid forced to ride 10 a day, pushing a sour GP horse doing 40+ GPs a year on an older Hunter rider, now this.

                                      That older kid cannot throw jibes at the younger one unless the younger one listens to her, the younger enables the nastiness.

                                      So does the trainer. Most that work with kids this age don't tolerate disrespect of others in their barn and business.
                                      This is what I was thinking... I don't know of any BNTs who would tolerate such things, except maybe a couple who are basically owned by one spoiled girl from an extremely wealthy family, and the trainer is more of a babysitter and has no choice but to accept bratty and catty behavior due to their business relying mostly on one client. But its not sounding like that's the case here. In most stables, BNT or otherwise? You would never see this unless it was a very poorly run operation and the trainer had no interest in an appearance of professionalism. Just look at what happened in the other "snootie patootie thread"... the BM (I think?) came on and said it was unacceptable and she was taking care of the problem. How the heck is the trainer allowing this behavior?!

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                                      • #20
                                        What kind of trainer would allow that many stallions to be owned/shown by juniors in a show barn? Sounds like asking for trouble to me. Actually, sounds a little unreal to me.
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