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  • IHSA eq critique please?

    This video may not be good enough for any sort of critique, but this was my last go before regionals this weekend, so feel free to be rough on me!

    This is an IHSA show- Intermediate fences (I'm going to regionals in novice). If you aren't familiar with IHSA- I've never ridden the horse prior to going in the ring for the class.

    Things I already know about (that I shouldn't still be doing ):
    -checking my leads
    -not staying up long enough in the air
    -hitting the last two fences way not centered

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    It looks to me like you are leaning all the way through the turns, not just to check you lead.
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    • #3
      If I were you, I'd work on a more following, independent hand that allows you to stay slightly taller and flatter in your back while following the horse's motion with your hands. Like me, you seem to not have the longest arms in the world, so it's twice as important for us to be really loose in the elbow.

      Also, with IHSA horses who can be wiggly little bastards, I would emphasize straight tracks and connection with the outside rein a little more. Here your horse lays on his inside shoulder more and more throughout the course, until it finally catches up with you at the end with the severe left drifts over the last two fences and the missed lead change. Riding super straight and a little deeper into your corners in the beginning of a course on a horse you don't know isn't a bad idea, in case he ends up being the type to cut turns more and more as he goes.

      Congrats on making it to regionals and good luck! You look well prepared and I'm sure you'll do great.

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      • #4
        I agree that it looks like you're leaning through turns. It also looks like your anticipating the fence the tiniest bit. It's not horrible, but this is regionals! That being said, be careful about messing with that only a couple days before your show.

        I do want to echo what letmroll said. A lot of IHSA horses just need to get to and over the jump without being crazy or dangerous. So sometimes things like cutting corners and leaning on the inside shoulder are overlooked. I always try to go as deep as possible into my first two corners. When I'm walking my course, I actually walk those entire first 2 turns so I don't cut them. Then I evaluate: Is this horse leaning on me even the slightest bit? If so, I stay riding as deep/wide as possible. If the horse seems really responsive and is the turn on a dime type, then I'll start reducing my turns to make more of an eq course. It's easier to go from deep corners to tighter turns than it is go from cutting corners while leaning on the inside shoulder to nicely bent, wide turns. When it doubt, use those corners. They'll also help keep the horse from getting too counter-bent.

        Good luck! You look comfortable, confident, and competent. In IHSA, that's a majority of the battle! Let us know how it goes!
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        • #5
          support the base

          Support more at the base. Sitting a step out and supporting more with your leg will help the horse jump straighter and jump more confidently. Even if you are a bit straighter in your track, when you take your leg off a step away (and look down as you hunt the distance), you are encouraging the horse to jump crooked. Good luck at regionals.
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          • #6
            You were 1st out of 10?

            Was not the type of ride I'm used to seeing from an Intermediate rider, at least not from my zone.

            Wiggly leg, pinching thigh. Lots of leaning and never established a connection with horse from leg to mouth. Looked like some lead issues towards the end? Couldn't really tell.
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            • #7
              Alteringwego, that was rude and very little of it would actually help this girl.

              OP, I think you did a pretty good job. What jumped out at me right away was how quick you are with your body in the air. There's a girl on my team who is the same way - I find it very distracting to see a rider duck in the air. The jumps in IHSA aren't very big, so you don't need to close your hip angle that much. You want to stand out by being invisible, if that makes any sense.

              Just because I'm curious (and a fellow IHSA rider ), what region are you in?
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              • #8
                In addition to the other posters' suggestions, I would recommend to keep pushing/driving to the fence. I know what it's like to draw the western horse that has been over x-rails like once, so I feel you! Your horse looked like it wanted to stop and inspect each fence (which is always fun in the middle of a round!).

                Overall, I think you did a nice job. Congrats on going to regionals, and let us know how you do. Zones are only one show away!

                @alterinwego- awesome non-help there... lemme guess.. you're an ihsa rider that your school funds the 40k horses for you to ride... there are some of us that never got that privilege. Let's beat this girl down, that sounds super helpful.

                p.s. I rode IHSA. Hubby went to Zones in open for the Hunter Team and the Reining Team his senior year. I've been to one or two IHSA shows... maybe just one or two...
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                  Originally posted by alteringwego View Post
                  You were 1st out of 10?

                  Was not the type of ride I'm used to seeing from an Intermediate rider, at least not from my zone.

                  Wiggly leg, pinching thigh. Lots of leaning and never established a connection with horse from leg to mouth. Looked like some lead issues towards the end? Couldn't really tell.
                  Oh I am totally with you on all of this. It was a total gift from the judge. I think I was the only one to not completely miss a spot.

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                  • #10
                    ^'Scuse me, I'm pretty sure the best is zone 9 region 3. Good try though
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                    • #11
                      missing spots and lead changes would keep you out of the ribbons in my previous zone. Long past IHSA age now.
                      Sorry if I was rude. Just not feeling the long drawn out post about how to fix form.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by supershorty628 View Post
                        ^'Scuse me, I'm pretty sure the best is zone 9 region 3. Good try though
                        Almost! But it's actually Zone 9 region TWO!
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Laguna 007 View Post
                          Almost! But it's actually Zone 9 region TWO!
                          Will you be at zones? We can rock-paper-scissors-lizard-Spock it out there.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Laguna 007 View Post
                            Almost! But it's actually Zone 9 region TWO!
                            Uhm...noooo definitely Zone 3 Region 2!
                            Except not. Heh.

                            Anyway, try not to jump for your horse. Everything else has been hit upon...Good luck at Regionals! I didn't make it this year =(
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by supershorty628 View Post
                              Will you be at zones? We can rock-paper-scissors-lizard-Spock it out there.
                              No, unfortunately I will not be at Zones. I didn't show enough to get enough points to qualify for regionals this year Good luck there though! I won zones last year and went to Nationals and it was a lot of fun!
                              RIP Owen 2/2/07

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                                #16
                                Originally posted by alteringwego View Post
                                missing spots and lead changes would keep you out of the ribbons in my previous zone. Long past IHSA age now.
                                Sorry if I was rude. Just not feeling the long drawn out post about how to fix form.
                                Missing spots and lead changes keeps you out of the ribbons here too; I got a little tight to one fence but otherwise was the only one in the class that didn't have a massive chip. (I've noticed in our division that everyone either does super well and I have no chance of pinning, or everyone can't see the distances and misses turns, and then I do pretty well. My eq sucks- and always has- but I usually am pretty consistent with my eye) And the missed lead at the end was a counter-canter that I fixed after 3 strides.
                                And I didn't think you were rude at all!
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                                • #17
                                  Originally posted by hollynanne View Post
                                  In addition to the other posters' suggestions, I would recommend to keep pushing/driving to the fence. I know what it's like to draw the western horse that has been over x-rails like once, so I feel you! Your horse looked like it wanted to stop and inspect each fence (which is always fun in the middle of a round!).
                                  As a member of the host team, I would just like to state, for the record, that the horse in question has a crapload of AQHA Working Hunter points (not HUS!). He's not an easy ride because he's very sensitive to seat and his goal in life is to go to the base...it took me two years to really have a handle on how to ride him...but he definitely has plenty of miles and all the buttons. And was donated because he refuses to be ridden western.

                                  As for your eq, I'm with everyone here. You're a little quick with your body over the fences. The late change was part dropped shoulder, part not enough forward. Otherwise, it looked good to me. Good luck at regionals!

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                                  • #18
                                    Sitting down at the base (quietly) will help you to remember to slow your body down and will also allow you to keep your leg on and quiet. It also helps the IHSA schoolies clean up the not quite so great spot and helps to cover up crookedness in the air because You can keep your back flat and neat.
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                                    • #19
                                      As a former member of the OP's region, I can confirm that problematic rides do not normally pin well at Intermediate. However, the horses at the host school in this case can be...challenging, and she may well have had the best trip in her class. This particular horse tried to kill me once years ago, although I don't hold a grudge - I made a mistake, and he informed me that those kinds of mistakes were not to be tolerated!

                                      Everyone else has touched on most of the issues with your round. The biggest one I see is the straightness issue. Really, really focus on sitting in the middle of the horse. You will be amazed at how crooked you (most riders, really!) actually are in the saddle. My horse taught me this lesson and teaches others as well. If you shift your weight to one side or sit crookedly, he will miss leads and/or start doing tempi changes down the rail. Sit in the middle of him and it all goes away! Needless to say, most of the riders who have drawn him for IHSA are not fans, but the ones who ride him well love him!

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                                      • #20
                                        Originally posted by supershorty628 View Post
                                        OP, I think you did a pretty good job. What jumped out at me right away was how quick you are with your body in the air. There's a girl on my team who is the same way - I find it very distracting to see a rider duck in the air. The jumps in IHSA aren't very big, so you don't need to close your hip angle that much. You want to stand out by being invisible, if that makes any sense.
                                        Agreed about the body. Stay tall and don't throw your upper body at the horse and then don't sit up so fast. The thing that distracted me most was that you sit down hard and fast which will end up with hind rails on more sensitive types.

                                        I don't think you should sit more. Actually, people who throw their body as you do (and as I do) usually benefit from being in a lighter seat. Then you can just follow the motion instead of trying to catch up to it.

                                        Also concentrate on straight and use the whole ring. The horse definitely wanted to fall in on all the corners, so thinking of getting all the way to the rail and using every inch of ring. The longer the path you give yourself in front of the ring by using the corners, the more time you have to get straight to the jump.

                                        While there are things to improve, let me just say that anyone person who can get on a strange horse and complete a course in decent fashion gets gold stars from me. It's a skill I don't have and therefore earns kudos.
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