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  • How did you bring up your baby?

    I wanted some opinions/thoughts about how you people have started your baby horses.

    These are the details about the horse:

    She is my "forever" mare's baby and she will be three in May. She is a huge thing (well over 16 hh as a two year old and still growing) with a bit of an attitude. Her mom is a TB. Her dad is an Oldenberg. I want her to be a hunter for me, (3' and MAYBE 3'6" if she's super easy) but suspect that she may have the talent to go further than that and I would support her progression with a pro with a great deal of joy!

    So what would you guys do with a horse like this given the goals that I've laid out? How would you (or how have you) gone about beinging your baby horses into adulthood?

    Thanks! I can't wait to hear the replies!
    Originally posted by tidy rabbit
    Oh, well, clearly you're not thoroughly indoctrinated to COTH yet, because finger pointing and drawing conclusions are the cornerstones of this great online community.

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    We have used the same method of starting and developing our young horses for the last 5 years and it seems to have worked out well, regardless of their temperament, type and future direction.
    Ryu Equestrian & Facebook Page
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    • #3
      You don't mention what you've done with her until this point. A horse that you call big and with a bit of an attitude, especially a mare, if you haven't gotten it started yet I would begin as soon as possible. They only get bigger and more opinionated.

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        Originally posted by CBoylen View Post
        if you haven't gotten it started yet I would begin as soon as possible. They only get bigger and more opinionated.
        Agreed, we had a big old fashioned young mare that was quite opinionated and definitely the alpha mare of the pack, so we started working with her as soon as possible and kept her in a program.
        Ryu Equestrian & Facebook Page
        Breeding Horses Today, for the Equestrian Sport of Tomorrow.
        Osteen & Gainesville, Florida.

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        • #5
          I have had my boy since he was 3 months old. My concern has always been his work routine in relation to his growth spurts. I occassionaly have the vet take x-rays to see watch the progress of his growth. Until he was three I only worked on his ground manners and let him spend the rest of the time in the field. Once he was three I put him under saddle doing light flat work and backing off during periods of large growth spurts. I did the same during the year he was four and five as well except slowly started increasing the level and length of ground work. He is almost six now and I have now started trotting and cantering over small fences. I am waiting for his x-rays to show his growth plates are closed before starting him in to a more indepth training schedule over fences for the hunters. I had seen many horses who went into early retirement from being trained too hard before bone growth had ended. It was important to me to make sure his body had the time to grow properly.

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          • #6
            We leave them in a pasture setting with one or two of the same age until they are 3. They get hands on care so they are manageable and are introduced to trailering...then at age 3they go to a trainer who starts them under saddle for 4 to 6 weeks. Then we take them to the show barn for a week or two, free jump them in a safe setting...then back to the pasture for another year or so depending on their development. At 4 or 5 they come back to the show barn and start to be introduced to the work regimin...if they take to it, they start showing lightly...if they are a bit immature or otherwise not ready, the get to wait another few months in pasture. That is the general pattern, but we sort of monitor each horse and adjust as needed....all 3 year olds are not the same physically or mentally. Some "3 year olds" are 36 months old, some only 26 months old....some are part TB or on the small side and further toward physical maturity, some are pure WB and slower to mature in their joints...you know your filly best. Be observant. Shop for the trainer you want starting her and watch him/her work and ask about other horses they've started and check with those owners. Compare his/her philosophy with your own. Be patient. Be flexible. Have fun with it.

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            • #7
              My homebred was raised mostly outside until a late 2 year old, I broke him the summer of his three year old year, turned him out again that winter, started him again at four and gave him an easy year with half a dozen outings to shows and off the farm lessons.

              He is now almost five, in a regular program and living in a pro barn, I still do most of the riding but he gets a training school with the pro every week and we lesson once a week. He's headed for the Adult ring and then wherever he tells me he can go. We're not in a hurry, I expect the pro will do him in the pre-greens next year.
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                Originally posted by CBoylen View Post
                You don't mention what you've done with her until this point. A horse that you call big and with a bit of an attitude, especially a mare, if you haven't gotten it started yet I would begin as soon as possible. They only get bigger and more opinionated.
                I left out those details on purpose -- I didn't want to get yelled at! The old girl has been handled since she was born. Started doing ground work early, too. (My trainer loves working with babies.) Because she was so big we started introducing her to tack early and she got sat on when she was about 2. Nothing too strenuous but just learning that she has a job and getting used to going into the arena by herself and accomplishing a task.

                Originally posted by MCarverS View Post
                Agreed, we had a big old fashioned young mare that was quite opinionated and definitely the alpha mare of the pack, so we started working with her as soon as possible and kept her in a program.
                Yup! Had she been more docile we probably would have waited longer, but we didn't want to have to deal with a HUGE monster. Small monsters are easier to work with!

                Originally posted by Carrie D View Post
                I have had my boy since he was 3 months old. My concern has always been his work routine in relation to his growth spurts. I occassionaly have the vet take x-rays to see watch the progress of his growth.
                ...
                He is almost six now and I have now started trotting and cantering over small fences. I am waiting for his x-rays to show his growth plates are closed before starting him in to a more indepth training schedule over fences for the hunters. I had seen many horses who went into early retirement from being trained too hard before bone growth had ended. It was important to me to make sure his body had the time to grow properly.
                We've been keeping an eye on the same things. Even light undersaddle work gets stopped when she's going through a growth spurt. I hope to begin her jumping earlier than 6, though. Moderately, of course!

                Originally posted by Blue Star View Post
                Be observant. Shop for the trainer you want starting her and watch him/her work and ask about other horses they've started and check with those owners. Compare his/her philosophy with your own. Be patient. Be flexible. Have fun with it.
                In this case I'm very lucky. My home-town trainer loves the babies and is EXCELLENT with them. Her previous babies have turned out beautifully. And when she's ready to actually start learning a little bit more about the world, my current trainer and her rider are great with the young ones, as well. I'm very lucky in that respect.


                Thanks for all the posts. I like to hear how people have started their babies. I think I know how I want to do it, but having other opinions and hearing other stories is great! It'll keep my mind open!
                Originally posted by tidy rabbit
                Oh, well, clearly you're not thoroughly indoctrinated to COTH yet, because finger pointing and drawing conclusions are the cornerstones of this great online community.

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                • #9
                  There was a thread about this just recently...I don't remember what it was called...

                  My gelding will be 3 in July. He just went to the trainer the first of February. He's 16.2 at the withers now and I expect him to top out at 16.3, maybe 17.0. If everything goes according to plan, he'll stay in training to be ready for the baby greens in Thermal next winter, his 4-year-old year.

                  I'm not opposed to starting them at 2 maybe for just w-t-c, then turning them back out until spring. Depends on their disposition. My guy's pretty laid back, not fussy, or opinionated...an all round good boy. If he was going to have some attitude issues, I would have started him late last summer for 2-3 months, then turned him back out until right about now.

                  A lot depends on trainer availability, my finances, and the personality of the horse. My trainer wants to start all the babies himself for the first 30-60 rides or at least be on the ground with his assistant riding. If he's at Thermal, we wait.

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                  • #10
                    ExJumper, I did something similar to what you have done with your filly. My Arab gelding was introduced to saddle and bridle around 18 months, and I did some free-lunging in the arena with him. At 2, I sat on him briefly a couple times. By the time he was 3, he had maybe a dozen VERY SHORT rides on him, and he knew the very basics of w-t-c and steering, though it was all very rough. I am lucky in that part of my yard is set up like a little track, so it gives them the security of a fairly closed space. Before he was 3, I didn't ride him for more than 15 or 20 minutes at a time, and most of those rides were much shorter than that. He's now almost 4, and we have started over trot poles and small jumps (under 2', mostly just raised poles). He is learning to leg yield, back, turn on the forehand, pick up the correct lead (still a work in progress), take contact, and move out or slow down depending on what is asked. He has gone on a couple trail rides too, and has gone to one in-hand show.

                    I would say that in total, he has had about 90-days worth of training, just spread out. I prefer that method because it gives their bodies time to rest and strengthen. He was also fairly physically and mentally mature at 2.

                    My filly, who is just now 2, will be a year behind him though. She's still very babyish, and is half-Lusitano, so she is probably going to grow longer. She's just not mature enough to begin any kind of work aside from basic manners, and learning the basics of lunging, wearing tack, and free jumping over small jumps (she can do 3'9" on her own when she feels like leaving the pasture, so small jumps won't stress her).

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                    • #11
                      VERY INTERESTING TO HEAR

                      This is so interesting to me ! I have a now 2yr old that is a solid 16.2+ and growing.
                      I have had him since 8months old and showing him on The Line. I want to hear all the different concepts on how you all are starting your youngsters.
                      I do however plan to continue to show him this year but NOT backing/ starting him until the late fall of 2010.
                      IT seems he is growing so much. His knees are so open now and I have no clue when he will even start to level out.
                      SO please continue. This advice is well worth it . The comments are all things we need to know . And most of all it seems so many of "US" have the youngsters and like to share the knowledge. This is very beneficial . Best of luck to each of you and your youngsters. See You On The Rail..
                      "YOU create your own stage. The audience is waiting."

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                      • #12
                        I had a similar situation with my filly. I was giving her tons of turnout and doing ground work. She had a mare attitude so I was advised by many to go ahead and get her started early. When she turned 3, I shipped her to Olin Armstrong. She is doing so well in their training program. She's been there almost a year now and they will start showing her this spring. I think having a pro start her was the best thing I ever did. I'm still hoping she'll be my A/O horse eventually, but I'm excited to see what she can do with a pro on her back.

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                        • #13
                          WOW SOTB,, to have Olin Armstrong break , ride, and train your horse.
                          YOu are going to end up with a very well going horse.
                          Lucky YOU !!!!
                          "YOU create your own stage. The audience is waiting."

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