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  • Baby Greenie Support Group: Pity Party. Everyone's Invited!

    Sorry this is a little long. Hopefully it's entertaining.

    Barbie, my Hanoverian Cow Beast, seems to have recovered from her near fatal surgery. She had "minor" oral surgery to remove a stone in her salivary gland, but it turned out to be a four-hour ordeal under general anesthesia which left her horribly infected and with pain/spasms in her hind end so that I couldn't ride her for 6 weeks!

    Needless to say, her training schedule suffered.

    Her first show back, about a month ago, she was Queen of Cows. She was a C-O-W. She just detested going back to the routine.

    Went home. Pulled out Linda Allen's book. Did tons more flatwork and jumping basics.

    Went to Showpark this weekend to tune up for the San Diego County year-end show in November. On warm-up day Barbie jumped like a million $. First round on Saturday, she pinned in a big low kids/ammy hunter round. I was thrilled!

    But by the 2nd and 3rd rounds, Barbie had figured out she went left after landing out of one line, and right after landing out of the other line. So, of course, being the lazy COW that she is, she begin her old habit of drifting and being evasive going into the lines.

    When I'd get her straight, she has such a huge step that I run out of room in the lines so my last stride is a "blip" of a chip. I so hate when I'm doing a 6-stride line and at stride 3 I can say to myself, "Oh hell. This is going to be really ugly."

    So now, the year-end wingding show is not looking like it's going to be the fantastic whoop-tee-do that I had hoped for. It does indeed get frustrating when I'm so used to winning on my other horses. And plus, a lot of people recognize me and know me because of my writing, so I feel like I want to wear a sign that says, "Disclaimer: I am aboard a horse that's a Baby Greenie."

    My husband took pity upon me and told me he'd buy me a nice horse that I could win on and idiot that I am, I said no! I raised Barbie. I broke her. I refuse to give in to the Baby Greenie Demon! I just need some moral support.

    So now I guess I have about two weeks to concentrate on getting Barbie to collect/shorten up a tidge in her lines.
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    #2
    Sorry this is a little long. Hopefully it's entertaining.

    Barbie, my Hanoverian Cow Beast, seems to have recovered from her near fatal surgery. She had "minor" oral surgery to remove a stone in her salivary gland, but it turned out to be a four-hour ordeal under general anesthesia which left her horribly infected and with pain/spasms in her hind end so that I couldn't ride her for 6 weeks!

    Needless to say, her training schedule suffered.

    Her first show back, about a month ago, she was Queen of Cows. She was a C-O-W. She just detested going back to the routine.

    Went home. Pulled out Linda Allen's book. Did tons more flatwork and jumping basics.

    Went to Showpark this weekend to tune up for the San Diego County year-end show in November. On warm-up day Barbie jumped like a million $. First round on Saturday, she pinned in a big low kids/ammy hunter round. I was thrilled!

    But by the 2nd and 3rd rounds, Barbie had figured out she went left after landing out of one line, and right after landing out of the other line. So, of course, being the lazy COW that she is, she begin her old habit of drifting and being evasive going into the lines.

    When I'd get her straight, she has such a huge step that I run out of room in the lines so my last stride is a "blip" of a chip. I so hate when I'm doing a 6-stride line and at stride 3 I can say to myself, "Oh hell. This is going to be really ugly."

    So now, the year-end wingding show is not looking like it's going to be the fantastic whoop-tee-do that I had hoped for. It does indeed get frustrating when I'm so used to winning on my other horses. And plus, a lot of people recognize me and know me because of my writing, so I feel like I want to wear a sign that says, "Disclaimer: I am aboard a horse that's a Baby Greenie."

    My husband took pity upon me and told me he'd buy me a nice horse that I could win on and idiot that I am, I said no! I raised Barbie. I broke her. I refuse to give in to the Baby Greenie Demon! I just need some moral support.

    So now I guess I have about two weeks to concentrate on getting Barbie to collect/shorten up a tidge in her lines.

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    • #3
      Two weeks in the life of a Baby Greenie is an eternity. Just work as you know how to -- quietly and consistently, with much creative language to describe the process <grin>. And then.....see what you have.

      She CAN do it. YOU can certainly do it. Whether you both do it on the same day, together is the question. I think you can!

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      • #4
        All I can say is, "i feel ya"!! Believe me, I feel your pain...... I own a AlphaHanoBarbie COW myself, and in the last three weeks has made me want to shoot her at least twice a day.

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        • #5
          Sorry to hear the Cow Beast is being a pig.

          But, what I am quickly learning with my baby greenie, you cannot prepare for tomorrow by evaluating what happened today. Consistency, whether good things or bad, is not part of the BG's vocabulary. Maybe Barbie will decided to be fantastic at the year-end and you won't even entertain the thought of screaming, "she's green," at the top of your lungs, just so everyone knows you're not a horrible rider. They should have arm bands for those of us on greenies. We could all be up for the "Best Example of a Green Horse" prize and then our egos wouldn't have to take the beating that inevitably comes with piloting the young ones.

          Good luck, relax and have fun...and when you get that collected/shortened canter stride, pass it on my way...I could use it too.

          [This message was edited by RugBug on Oct. 27, 2003 at 04:46 PM.]
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          • #6
            Merry, be happy you are at least still heading to the show ring. Midge and I are back on the drawing board, also with Linda Allen's book. (And yes I had to spray paint my circles on the field. )

            Midge also had to learn to stay quiet in the lines and not bulge on the (especially right) approach. We did a lot of canter in, trot out for the in line adjustments and counter bending for the bulge.

            Not that this has changed things at the show. She can now counterbend with the bulge and, let's face it, just because she can trot out, doesn't mean after the first line she doesn't know we are cantering out.

            My husband also offered to buy the horse I showed at the State fair. Of course, he's not for sale...
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            • #7
              I am right there with you. The show season started out quite well, improving at each show, and then I didn't go to any shows for 3 months because of 3 weeks of vacation, and bad calendar management. I foolishly thought we'd pick up where we left off. Foolishly.

              I would happily wear a green armband as a partial explanation of my drunk rider impersonation. And carry an empty bottle of Stoli for the rest of the explanation.

              --R

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              • #8
                Ooohhh, Merry. How discouraging!!
                I can share a similar story. RSG was doing great. We have been doing a rated show a month and doing really nicely. Moved to a barn closer to home so BustersGirl could ride after school. He has a great stall and turnout complete with peacocks and pigmey goats. I figured GREAT...this will give us a chance to get used another potential challenge. I didn't anticipate one thing. Last Thurs, I was dropping supplies off at the barn. Well, there was BustersGirl tromping across the lawn saddle in her arms. Apparently RSG caught sight of a small pony pulling a gasp...cart. He went bonkers. Fortunately, BG was still leading him at the time. He did his Black Stallion imitation rearing up and pawing the air high above her head. Apparently she was a little intimidated. Managed to get him in the round pen and lunged him and was totally disgusted with the whole 3 year effort.

                She says she is just tired of dealing with all his issues. I offered to put him on the market right then....she waffled and now they are best friends again. Go Figure.

                It is so frustrating to have a greenie and a teenager.

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                • #9
                  Oye, I'm about ready to give into Gramento's urge to drift left. It does make it easier to fit his humungous strides into the lines.

                  No - no - no - I will not give in! We WILL learn to still have some motor while shortening our stride - we will not crawl out of the lines...We will not crawl INTO the lines, knowing we'll have to whoa in them...

                  Not that I've been showing or plan on showing in the immediate future. This is just practicing at HOME!

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                    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by RugBug:
                    They should have arm bands for those of us on greenies. We could all be up for the "Best Example of a Green Horse" prize and then our egos wouldn't have to take the beating that inevitably comes with piloting the young ones.

                    <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                    Well, now that's an idea!

                    Thank you all so much. It's rather disheartening to watch this novice adult rider-- whom I really like, personally-- riding my old horse that's now about 25 just pack her around. She couldn't see a spot to save her life so I called out to our coach, "Hey. Draw a box in the dirt in front of the fence." Sure enough, the gal suddenly can ride to a distance. Fortunately, I still beat her in eq. o/fences on Barbie.

                    But it's so discouraging to know you have it "mentally" but you can't always get your green Cow of a Horse to cooperate.

                    Oh. And dearest Buster's Mom, you should've seen me borrowing a bat from another barn so I could whack Barbie's ass to get her down the scary barn aisle and out to the schooling ring. I feel your pain.

                    Duffster, anytime you wanna show Barbie...

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                    • #11
                      Cheer up - you may have a naught cow-beast - but your husband sounds like a keeper.

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                      • #12
                        Here's a sample of my greenie issues.

                        At a jump he's seen before:

                        "Yeah, yeah, yeah, mom, just let me do this jump. I've seen it a million times. I'll meet you on the other side if you decide to stay on my back."

                        Or he does this:

                        "Yep. *sigh* I've already been here and done that, lets just go over it. *yawn* I need a challenge, can you make the next one harder?"

                        A jump he's never seen and has fun colors:

                        "Um, mom, I've NEVER seen that before! It's not a jump, is it? Maybe it is....maybe it isn't...yep, it definitely isn't!" (This said before a last minute duck out and near crash into the standard.)

                        The same jump the second time he sees it:

                        "Are you SURE you want me to jump THAT, mom?? Okay, but I'm going to make sure it doesn't come anywhere near me or my feet!!!!!"



                        I can only conclude that I'm paying off karma at a vastly accelerated rate.
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                        • #13
                          Duffy - I hear you on being tempted to give in to the drift to fit the steps in. In my case, it is a right drift. I work so hard at home to be very good about not letting him drift right. However, if we are showing and I know the line is going to be tight (due to an unadjustable step) and he wants to drift right, it's like - go right ahead, then hopefully we won't have a hideous chip. Must work on making horse more adjustable in the lines though it is so much easier to crawl in and lope out. No one can see that I am picking to that first fence - can they????

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                          • #14
                            <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by RugBug:
                            They should have arm bands for those of us on greenies. We could all be up for the "Best Example of a Green Horse" prize and then our egos wouldn't have to take the beating that inevitably comes with piloting the young ones.

                            <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                            I LOVE it! If Rio ever makes it back into the show ring I'll have mine all prepared and proudly displayed
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                            • #15
                              Ok, so I move myself, my greenie, my daughter and her made hunter to a new barn. After weeks and weeks of lessons on my greenie (being observed by the new barnmates) I take my daughter's hunter to a show - EVERYONE was coming up telling me they had no idea I was such an "accomplished" rider.
                              He--ll--o, my greenie may be cute as a button but he is definitely difficult. We haven't made it to a show yet, although my trainer says it's time. I'm kinda dreading it --

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                              • #16
                                Merry I was wondering how you are doing.
                                Perhaps next year, Elliot will be showing in the Pre Green's and Children's Hunters with his new trainer and the Bumpkinette.
                                In the meantime, to get him to remember he has a hindend, his Hunter Trainer, Nancy Green, has him going with a Dressage Trainer, Molly Martin.
                                Learning all this lower level Dressage stuff should work out.
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                                • #17
                                  Oh Bumpkin! Are you with Nancy Green now? I went to visit her when the soon-to-be-ex Mr. Batgirl and I were thinking of moving up there. She has such a nice operation!

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                                  • #18
                                    I hear you sister! Following my entertaining first show with Johnny, I sent him to the Jumping Festival and had Mark show him. 85 in the first round, thirds for the rest of the show... wow. I'm feeling pretty good about my project! So good that I show him at Del Mar, and on our one good day, I'm third and third in the AAs, which is quite a feat since he and Barbie have similar issues with going straight. Low and behold, Johnny finds himself a buyer... and then proceeds to not pass the vet. Goodbye brilliant prospect, hello money pit. If one more person tells me, "that's horses!" I may have use a bat on them!
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                                    • #19
                                      Oh, Merry what a road you are travelling. I must say the green armband is a smashing idea -- a show of solidarity, AND an explanation you don't have to explain.

                                      What is it with the greenie's and resisting the concept of compressing that stride so that you aren't running over the last jump in the line??? This weekend Madison very nearly left out a stride in a 5-stride UPHILL line, and you can imagine how I had to ride the downhill lines And then I saw someone on an older packer go in and actually do the adds!! didn't know that was physically possible after the way my trips felt . . . lol.

                                      And then there was the weekend before where, after doing 2 near-perfect trips, we go in for a third trip, and canter into the outside line only to have Madison land from fence one and go "OMG there are PEOPLE outside the ring" and proceed to draw a triangle in the sand between fence one and fence two - three strides bulging out right, then three strides left to jump out (which , by the way, is the one time you are really glad for that open stride -- we made it out without doing the adds!).

                                      So, you are not alone in the greenie moments, though it is sounding like you have had to endure more than your share lately, particularly given the trauma Barbie went through. So, clearly it is sounding like she will inexplicably decide to be perfect at the finals show since that is what you will least expect.

                                      Good luck!

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                                      • #20
                                        Merry, Merry, Merry. Don't give up. You are an inspiration to us all! So far you have inspired me to give up on both Warren AND his evil twin, and to Send G off to the trainer for a little respect (of my leg) training. You have also inspired me to stop showing, since I, like you, HATE making a fool of myself in public.

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