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  • Paints on the Hunter Circut?

    Can paints uphold there own on the "C" Circut?? I may be showing this summer at some "C" Shows with my trainer.

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    Sure! Some judges may not like 'em, but my trainer, who's an R-rated hunter judge, says as long as they're not "too loud" they're fine. Besides, there are so many more of them on the circuit now, than, say, 10 years ago, it's hard to hold color against them.
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    • #3
      Absolutely. My guy is APHA/TB (reg APHA) 16.3+ hands. He has been showing local shows for the past 2 years and he has been acquiring quite a few primary color ribbons. The trainer has also showed him a two A USEF shows last year in baby green and training hunters. Ended up middle of the pack over fences most of the time. He will show pre-green this year, depending on my pocketbook. When people ask what type of warmblood he is, I simply smile and reply "a Texas warmblood."

      As someone has said on earlier threads: put in a good trip and the judge will remember you, put in a bad trip and the judge will remember you.

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      • #4
        Short answer yes. Trust your trainer, she will take you and Beautiful to the shows that she feels are appropriate, whether they are open or locally rated.

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        • #5
          There is a difference in a Paint and a Pinto. If it is an APHA, he will need to have the striding to do the numbers which is sometimes a problem with a QH bred horse. However if he has enough TB in there, or is a nice, big strided APHA you'll be fine.
          However, if he's just a pinto (it's amazing how many people confuse the two)....which is just the COLORING, not the BREEDING........you're only as good as your horse is!
          I breed and show sport horse pintos and compete in the A circuit and have been very successful.......check out Claim to Fame's record.......he's won on the line at Devon, won in Conformation Hunters at HITS, won in professional divisions all over the east, and won with me in amateurs!

          It's amazing how many people (AND big time judges) have come up to me and whispered "I've always loved pintos!".......I'd say you have a very level playing field, if you have a good looking, good moving and good jumping pinto..........

          There is an ole saying another COTHER always posts " Be spotted, ride a pinto"...and it's so true. You'll attract attention.......which can be good or bad, depending on how your horse goes!!!

          Good luck!!
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          www.flyingcolorsfarm.comHome of pinto stallion Claim to Fame and his homozygous son, Counterclaim. Friend us on Facebook!https://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Fl...04678589573428

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          • #6
            Yes! Mine does great with all kinds of champs, & reserves (:

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Geroni-mo-oh-oh View Post
              Sure! Some judges may not like 'em, but my trainer, who's an R-rated hunter judge, says as long as they're not "too loud" they're fine. Besides, there are so many more of them on the circuit now, than, say, 10 years ago, it's hard to hold color against them.
              Are you kidding me? Cause it's not about how the thing jumps around or anything.

              I assume the OP is talking about a Paint & not a pinto. Paint being more like a QH than a colored WB.
              Stoneybrook Farm Afton TN

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              • #8
                Non Issue.

                Put in a nice round on a quality horse and unless politics is involved the horse will pin as it deserves.

                I caught some rides on a really nice Paint/TB. He was gorgeous, a stylist with a nice flowing step. He placed according to his round, not that he was a bold colored horse.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by florida foxhunter View Post
                  There is a difference in a Paint and a Pinto. If it is an APHA, he will need to have the striding to do the numbers which is sometimes a problem with a QH bred horse. However if he has enough TB in there, or is a nice, big strided APHA you'll be fine.
                  However, if he's just a pinto (it's amazing how many people confuse the two)....which is just the COLORING, not the BREEDING........you're only as good as your horse is!
                  I breed and show sport horse pintos and compete in the A circuit and have been very successful.......check out Claim to Fame's record.......he's won on the line at Devon, won in Conformation Hunters at HITS, won in professional divisions all over the east, and won with me in amateurs!

                  It's amazing how many people (AND big time judges) have come up to me and whispered "I've always loved pintos!".......I'd say you have a very level playing field, if you have a good looking, good moving and good jumping pinto..........

                  There is an ole saying another COTHER always posts " Be spotted, ride a pinto"...and it's so true. You'll attract attention.......which can be good or bad, depending on how your horse goes!!!

                  Good luck!!


                  Wow, what a cute horse! I have to admit I've never really liked paints OR pintos (still don't prefer them, actually) but yours is LOVELY! How adorable!
                  RIP Owen 2/2/07

                  Laguna <3

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                  • #10
                    The OP is talking about a Paint, and going to Local "C" Shows. Yes, if the trainer thinks the horse can handle it then go for it. A good horse is a good horse regardless of color.

                    Lets not turn this thread into a trainwreck like the QH H/J one is becoming.

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                    • #11
                      I have one that is pretty cute! Maybe a little "loud" for some people, but he jumps a good jump, is a cute mover and is SANE. Would pack a kid around all day long His TB lines are Oklahoma Bound (Grandbaby) and I don't know much about his QH lines. He looks like a TB....just with a little color! Pictures of him are on my webshots...I need to get some more recent ones on there.

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                      • #12
                        I think Beautiful would do great in the flat classes at some C shows. She's a lovely mover and has the perfect about of "flash".

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                        • #13
                          It's not about color, it's about conformation. Consequently, most paints, at least "technically" true paints (as in ones with QH blood, not pintos which are just any kinda horse with paint marking) are very stocky and not as suitably built for hunters, as, say, a TB. The "louder" patterns of paints are almost entirely seen on true paints, not pintos. its just a matter of genes. sure, its common enough on pintos, but it's more prevalent on real paints.

                          having said that, a pinto WB or TB or pony or whatever is not automatically any better or worse than a 'normal' colored horse. it doesnt have anything to do with their color. it has everything to do with their movement and conformation and jumping style. having said that, stock horses usually move completely differently and jump differently than that of a 'huntery' TB for example. the breeds were originally intended for different purposes, and this shows in their conformation.

                          people like to say "oh we didnt place in the class because my horse is a paint" ... no, you didn't place in the class because other horses had a better trip than yours, they jumped better, they moved better, they had better conformation, etc. consequently, this mostly results from the build of the horse.

                          is it impossible to do well with a paint or a pinto? absolutely not. my pony was half welsh and we don't know the other half, but considering he was bred by a western barn and intended as a barrel pony for children, it's probably safe to say that the other half was quarter horse or paint. turns out he liked jumping a lot more, so they sold him and someone got a hold of him and started training him for english riding. he's somewhat stocky, but he definitely has some welsh features too. he is a clunky mover, but SUPER stylish jumper. we cleaned up at A shows. his color? if anything, it helped us stand out and gave the judge something to remember about us when it's time to pin 8 horses out of 50.

                          here's my pony

                          ignore me in this pic! i think i probably started to get left behind or something. at least he looks good
                          http://hphotos-snc1.fbcdn.net/hs019...._5730192_n.jpg

                          http://photos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-...17213_4595.jpg

                          he's gotten ribbons at HITS in the 3' ponies, he's cleaned up in the children's ponies at other A/AA's like Garden State and so on. has his color hindered him? i don't quite think so :P if you want to stand out, ride a paint!
                          (|--Sarah--|)

                          Blitz <3 & Leap of Faith <3

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Pirateer View Post
                            I think Beautiful would do great in the flat classes at some C shows. She's a lovely mover and has the perfect about of "flash".
                            you hit it on the nail!

                            Maybe a few x rail class's.

                            she has a Qurther TB in her and the rest is paint.

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                              #15
                              http://s713.photobucket.com/albums/ww138/TMA572/

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                              • #16
                                You will be fine of she gets the trip over fences and minds her manners in your flat. Judges are really smarter then some give them credit for and capable of judging fairly. Most of the time.

                                APHA "Paint" is for horses with APHA or one APHA and one AQHA parent and minmal color requirements. IF they have the conformation suitable to do the job-and alot would at the C or local level. No reason not to go.

                                Generic "paint" is just a term for the color and alot of those can be registered as Pinto-which is split into types, IIRC it was Stock, Hunter and ASB type. Few breeding requirements except they are colored from both sides.

                                So when you refer to yours as part QH and mostly "paint"??? Not sure what you mean.

                                Non issue anyway. Do fine and you will be fine.
                                When opportunity knocks it's wearing overalls and looks like work.

                                The horse world. Two people. Three opinions.

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                                • #17
                                  I love Paints or Pintos.
                                  I own one and he has been the easiest, sweetest horse I have ever had the priviledge of being around.
                                  I also judge and love to see one in the ring in front of me.

                                  I judge the horse's performance so whatever color or size he or she has to jump well and be a nice horse...

                                  Check out my profile, Alex is my Paint.
                                  Last edited by MintHillFarm; Feb. 11, 2010, 10:34 AM.

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                                  • #18
                                    Love seeing some color in the arena...this photo of our paint was taken a few years ago...

                                    http://s230.photobucket.com/albums/e...2.jpg&newest=1

                                    Enjoy! My daughter was 8 years old in this pic...she's now 13.

                                    If the horse is a good mover, nails the strides, and has good form - I don't care what color is!

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                                    • #19
                                      Sure is, and on the A circuit too! Mine is a reg paint (although she is a solid bay) and has won championship at both shows we showed at last year (she is green as grass). Pic is on my profile. So far we've had no problems getting the strides and she's only 15-1. I do have to make sure she is moving forward, but she never looks rushed though (and looking at her pedigree, only her parents are paints all her linneage are QH with one TB thrown in for good measure!)
                                      Go Ahead: This is a dare, not permission. Don't Do It!

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                                      • #20
                                        Painted ponies

                                        News Worthy, Poltroon (sorry eventing Olympic Pony), Rain-or Shine , Grand Pony at Devon some years back, Lots of good horses that just happen to be of color. I think the only thing that may hurt a pinto/paint, is in conformation, if they have a lot of white around the face and blue eyes. Some judges do not care for blue eyes in the Model. But if they go and do their job, jump well, get down the lines and swap their leads they will do just fine. I have an American Indian Pony, Pinto, B/W, Black head, dark eyes. He was easy to break and in one year he went, with a child rider, from S Stirrup to breaking his green this year. Was Champ. first time in the Meds.
                                        So, while a lot of white may take a lot of bathing, if the horse/pony does their job, they should be fine.

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