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    This is one of the funniest threads I've read in a long time! And.....I don't even live in VA, nor for that am I a hunt seat rider!! Hilarious, thanks everyone!!!


      Inquiring minds want to know.....
      Anyplace....did you get any letters from lawyers yet? You simply must keep us all informed!
      Secret interlude....have you noticed how many COTHers have been reading this thread? What an awesome form of (clear throat...)advertisment!


        Not sure that it can reach the same number of pages, but this thread is one of the most attention grabbing since I was sucked into the Wild Eyed & Wicked thread a few years ago.


          Originally posted by Janet View Post

          I live in Nokesville.

          I am primarily an eventer, but I sometimes go to hunter shows for specific reasons.

          When this thread first appeared, I thought "that might be a good one to take Spy to". (Not THIS weekend, but later)

          Anyplace's post didn't change that.

          secret interlude's posts DID change that.
          Exactly what i was thinking. I too am an eventer, and I was thinking "wow, thats close to me, i might take my mare to school over some bigger fences"

          definately not. Secret interlude just killed all thought of even entering.

          BTW, secret, all your doing is turning away business for yourself.. FYI- not a good thing.
          Somewhere behind the rider i am now,the coaches who've pushed me,the tears,and the horses i've given my heart to,is a little girl who fell in love with a sport and never looked back. i ride for her


            Originally posted by CuriosoJorge View Post
            Then your "red hot" lawyer will also know that when one files a lawsuit for libel or slander, one must prove financial loss occuring directly from the defamation. Since you've said yourself that you have no financial interest in your horse shows, right here on this very thread, you have no basis for a lawsuit.

            And I'm not even a lawyer.
            Agreed. im 15, but holy h**l woman, i learned enough in my freshman year of highschool to tell you that you have NO case. No financial issues involved, no rules broken, you have no BASIS whatsoever for a case against anyone. i believe... yes... you DID ask for people to state their experiences. That wont hold up in court. People are gonna look at this and see all your doing is trying to build up strong OPINIONS against your facilities, horses, shows, whatever.

            im sorry hun, but OPINIONS dont do anything for you in a lawsuit. its fact and evidence, which you have none of.
            Somewhere behind the rider i am now,the coaches who've pushed me,the tears,and the horses i've given my heart to,is a little girl who fell in love with a sport and never looked back. i ride for her


              Awesome Show Day!

              I keep asking myself when this thread will die But, I'm itching to throw in my two cents.

              Sunday's show was great and I had a blast. I even walked away with a few ribbons, which made the day even better. This was the first time I spent a whole day at a show, and I must say that I was impressed and happy with how everything turned out. The best part was the overall environment. I enjoyed the casual dress code and the laid-back attitude. My kind of scene. It may be looked upon as "white trash" to some, but it was a whole lot more comfortable and inviting than some of the more "classy" shows I've experienced.

              Sorry if I sound a tad bitter, but I have been treated rather rudely in the past by a few hunter/jumper snobs who looked down upon me for not owning a horse. And, yes, I have been called "white trash" simply for not having the means to buy my own horse, show apparel, tack, etc. It is utterly degrading and hurts big time. Shame on anyone who uses this foul term to describe another human being.

              The bottom line is that it was a fantastic day and I highly encourage everyone to attend and enjoy the next Hollow Oak Farm show. Lynn does everything short of breaking her back to put on a good, fun day. I've worked with her for about three months now (feeding horses and doing barn chores in exchange for riding) and she is one of the kindest people I've ever met. It's rare to meet someone so completely open, accomodating, and downright sweet. I am convinced that she will do anything for anyone. At the same time, she is fiercely passionate about her horses and riding establishment. I can definitely understand how she would be quick to defend herself, especially after witnessing the hard work she endures to keep her establishment in good shape. But I'll keep my nose out of the legal issues; that's definitely outside my realm of knowledge

              Anyway, I just wanted to share my feelings and observations, and hopefully tack a nice ending onto a somewhat messy thread. None of it is really important, though. The important thing is that we are all on this forum because of our love of horses and riding, not to cut each other down, call each other names, or make comments about parenting. So, go to the barn, have fun, and hug your horses


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                Originally posted by Ryder4Lyf View Post
                I even walked away with a few ribbons, which made the day even better.
                So did we, my mare got champion in a division with a rider and a number that she wasn't entered under. Bet that made the other entries feel good.
                "If you would have only one day to live, you should spend at least half of it in the saddle."


                  This was the first time I spent a whole day at a show, and I must say that I was impressed and happy with how everything turned out. The best part was the overall environment.
                  I really must encourage you to take the time to step out to many of the venues in the surrounding area and see how other horse shows are run. Virginia is full of excellent, well-organized shows that uphold the standards of the Virginia Horse Shows Association, casual or not.

                  I might also mention that while no one I know would EVER, EVER rip someone apart for not having the money to buy or campaign a horse - we have no problem using "less flattering" terminology in regards to poor, unsportsmanlike, or unprofessional behavior.
                  They're small hearts.


                    Ok, this has been very interesting, but I have to get clarrification on something:

                    Someone mentioned a kid being dragged and threatened. WHO was dragging the child, and who did the child belong to? Someone mentioned show management was dragging the kid...was it their kid, or someone else's? Does anyone know why?? It just sounds so bizzarre.

                    SI, I am sure if ETBW enjoyed your show, it must have been fun. I am kinda scared of you, though. My fear is based solely on what you have written (out of anger), not what others have said. Please stop making people's opinions into more than that. It ruins good, productive (and lively) conversations on the bb. Even IF what was said could be a basis for a lawsuit, are you really that petty? Actions speak louder than words, so just concentrate on having fun shows and don't worry about the small things. Just correct people and ask questions. You definitely don't want to enter and stay in "category 2"!


                      I'm still back on "deformate". I do not think it means what you think it means.


                        How common is it to get random people to fill divisions for points then? Is it "legal"? Are people ok with it? Do you need to find people that are comparable to those in the division?


                          Wow, being a small show manager myself, I would take what was being said as a learning experience and try to improve on the problems areas instead of incorrectly yelling 'slander' and acting like a KRAZY person. I am constantly trying to get feedback from my competitors. I want to know what they think of our shows, how we can improve and what we are doing right. But then again, I want my shows to make money. Not necessarily hand over fist, but we use the money to improve our shows... no one profits from them but the show fund. (Well, my back profitted because we bought all new PVC standards and I no longer have to drag the wood ones around or paint them each year....)

                          I KNOW a few of my regulars read this board. I would be soooo embarrassed to be ranting and raving and basically telling potential competitors that I couldn't care less if they came or not. I get snarky from time to time, but I don't think I've ever discounted someone's potential participation at my shows so out of hat.
                          Keith: "Now...let's do something normal fathers and daughters do."
                          Veronica: "Buy me a pony?"


                            deformate - to remove ants ????
                            The Evil Chem Prof


                              Originally posted by WildBlue View Post
                              I'm still back on "deformate". I do not think it means what you think it means.
                              Can't find it in my Webster's.....
                              Debbie Hanson


                                Originally posted by Peggy View Post
                                deformate - to remove ants ????

                                Good one.
                                "... if you think i'm MAD, today, of all days,
                                the best day in ten years,
                                you are SORELY MISTAKEN, MY LITTLE ANCHOVY."


                                  I'm just curious as the show in question's organizer now has multiple supporters chiming in which have only one post each. Alters or friends & family? No slander or libel stated or implied. I'm just a very curious person.


                                    Originally posted by AlphaMare View Post
                                    I'm just curious as the show in question's organizer now has multiple supporters chiming in which have only one post each. Alters or friends & family? No slander or libel stated or implied. I'm just a very curious person.
                                    Curious here as well. Perhaps a Sybil Situation (see The Case of the Asswacked Arabian)?

                                    Also no slander or libel implied, stated or transmitted via electrons.
                                    The Evil Chem Prof


                                      I have read this thread on and off since it started and I always end up with the same responce.....Huh??? Someone please tell me...did I miss something? Did someone delete a post?

                                      First, I have never heard of this farm, don't even live in the area. The post about VHSA Assoc rules actually made me laugh. My first thought was....the VHSA Assoc program has rules??? Who knew! I saw nothing wrong within the post. To me it was just being every other opinion on this board.

                                      And then I really had a chuckle about the VHSA having a copy of this thread. The VHSA has bigger issues to deal with so I would assume this would be handed over to Clyde. This made me laugh even more since the last time I talked with him a couple of months ago he made it very clear in regards to his feelings about bb's in general. But I'll let him speak for himself.

                                      Lawsuit material??? Lord...there are worse things on the horse stick art thread!!!

                                      There are a couple things I have learned over the years. If you put 2 horse people together you're going to get 3 opinions. I have been to and helped put on shows for a few years. In all those years I have never heard of a perfect show....if you have water, then it's too cold, or too hot, doesn't come out fast enough, comes out too fast, the hose is too long, the hose is not long enough. Do these comments mean the show was!! They are opinions!! Frankly, I appreciate knowing such things. I appreciate when people post frankly. I take it all with a grain of salt. If everyone tells me to bring water...then I'll bring water. Horse people are the most hard headed, opinionated folks I know....and I'm one of them and I bet most would want to find out about a show first hand.

                                      That being said, I have to agree with the "all knowing" Janet. Nothing anyone posted would have kept me from going to this show....nothing except the posts from show management.
                                      Debbie Hanson


                                        Wow...I've been away from the board for a few days and look what happens!
                                        Honey badger don't give a sh!t.


                                          Originally posted by GreyHunterHorse View Post
                                          I, too, have resisted posting on this thread because of the sheer ridiculousness of it.....but now reading that people are actually going to tie up the court system over something this [I]trivial[I] is what gets me. Save the court system for people who really need it.....if you hadn't gotten so wound up over this in the first place you would have done yourself a favor. I would still have tried out the show after reading the opinions of the other people. Most of us can make up our own minds after reading other people's thoughts....however, after reading the backlash - now that would have changed my mind about going to the show. I really really hope that people let this go and don't bog down our already overworked legal system with this nonsense