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  • #41
    Oh, please don't think for a minute I have tossed anything around..... I don't ever make claims I have not intended to stand fully behind... and maybe you should know a little better, it is slander. To make a statement that is untrue to deformate my character is slander.......

    saying of something false and damaging: the act or offense of saying something false or malicious that damages somebody's reputation

    Definition right off the net.

    Thanks.

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    • #42
      Originally posted by secret interlude View Post
      Oh, please don't think for a minute I have tossed anything around..... I don't ever make claims I have not intended to stand fully behind... and maybe you should know a little better, it is slander. To make a statement that is untrue to deformate my character is slander.......

      saying of something false and damaging: the act or offense of saying something false or malicious that damages somebody's reputation

      Definition right off the net.

      Thanks.
      To say. Not to WRITE. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that speaking and writing are two different things. So you are taking your "definition right off the net" completely and totally out of context. But I'm glad that you bothered to do a little bit of research, even if it was just googling one word. You get a gold star.

      And maybe you forgot, but you DID threaten litigation earlier in this thread. You said that this is "lawsuit material." Sounds like a threat to me (and an obviously empty one at that, since if you did sue the action would bring frivolity to new heights).

      Cheers!
      "The grace of God is found between the saddle and the ground" --Irish proverb

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      • #43
        I can't believe I'm even wasting the time to say something

        But all that was asked was for opinions, experiences, etc, for this show. Anyplace offered up what she had heard and what she had experienced, which was all the OP wanted. Now threats of law suits are being tossed around??

        Ain't America great? Someone can offer up a negative opinion, then be hauled off to court because of it...good grief.
        Amanda

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        • #44
          When my lawyer files the demand letter, yes, it will be labeled as "libel", however the bottom line layman's term is - in fact, slander. That's why I have a red hot lawyer, I don't have to be red hot at everything I do, just most things

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          • #45
            If in fact Anyplace had posted, "I think.........." I would have had no issues. However, that is not what she did, she said "They (do)......"

            That's where I have heart burn.

            Speak your mind, feel free to flaunt your opinion. Tell anyone you like you hate my guts or what ever you want, don't call me a liar and a cheat.

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            • #46
              I, too, have resisted posting on this thread because of the sheer ridiculousness of it.....but now reading that people are actually going to tie up the court system over something this [I]trivial[I] is what gets me. Save the court system for people who really need it.....if you hadn't gotten so wound up over this in the first place you would have done yourself a favor. I would still have tried out the show after reading the opinions of the other people. Most of us can make up our own minds after reading other people's thoughts....however, after reading the backlash - now that would have changed my mind about going to the show. I really really hope that people let this go and don't bog down our already overworked legal system with this nonsense
              Equus Doth Indeed Makeus Brokeus. Or Brokeus Meus -- when you have a baby warmblood, it could be either one!

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              • #47
                I know, I know, threaten me again by not coming to my shows, I can't take it anymore!!!! Please, don't tell me your NOT coming to my shows, whatever you do, don't tell me that, I will have to jump off a bridge or something horrible~!

                In reality, again, I don't care, I am not in this for anything more than my own pleasure. If you agree with these harrassing individuals, do us all a favor, don't come. Don't debate about it, don't lose sleep over it, don't call your psychic friends network about it, just don't come. There, I have made it very easy for you, you can live guilt free forever. I think you should thank me.

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                • #48
                  What's so funny is that secret interlude has just given herself WAY worse advertising that Anyplace Farm ever could by just giving an opinion on an internet bb. Wonder if she should sue herself as well? All I can say is WOW

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                  • #49
                    Tacky, very tacky
                    If you want to see it in action, go to the show
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                    Last edited by Moderator 1; Oct. 20, 2009, 10:23 AM.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by BelladonnaLily View Post
                      What's so funny is that secret interlude has just given herself WAY worse advertising that Anyplace Farm ever could by just giving an opinion on an internet bb. Wonder if she should sue herself as well? All I can say is WOW
                      So true! And even if secret interlude really doesn't care about the money and is hosting the shows just for fun, one would still think that she would stay away advertising herself in this negative manner... even if money's not the issue, wouldn't her fun go down the tubes if her shows didn't run due to lack of entries???
                      "The grace of God is found between the saddle and the ground" --Irish proverb

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                      • #51
                        Anyplace did not delete her comments. They are in the first sentence of the 2nd post of this thread. IMHO, secret interlude should have come forward, asked specifics about what Anyplace "heard" and either defended her actions or pledged to make it better. Hey, we're all human and we all make mistakes. And we also "hear" things that aren't true. So, either way, I would have respected MUCH more.

                        Instead, secret interlude came out guns blazing and also, IMHO, began threatening Anyplace.

                        FWIW, I go to well-run shows and some not-so-well-run shows. Sometimes, the latter are just more convenient and frankly, it isn't so bad when you're simply looking for a schooling opportunity for a greenie. As long as it isn't dangerous, I don't expect perfection for $10/class. So, I didn't REALLY form an opinion of the Hollow Oak shows based on anything I'd read UNTIL secret interlude began posting. I'd really hate to be standing by her rail and make a comment about something, as an aside, and someone overhear and then suddenly I'm the subject of a frivilous lawsuit. I mean really, I just want to go have fun with my kids and ponies for a day...I don't need to get mixed up in the drama.

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                          #52
                          Beautiful day

                          The weather was gorgeous, the footing was good, water was plentiful and the barbecue was tasty. We went with two horses and two riders, intent on showing in both hunters as well as jumper classes.

                          No small show can guarantee enough competitors to fill the more advanced divisions and this one tried very hard to do so.

                          The downside of that was that the horses wouldn't jump around and a rider quite obviously didn't want to spend the afternoon filling classes. Still the effort was made.

                          Coming from "hunterland" and my only experiences with jumper shows being watching the Grand Prix at Upperville, Devon, Penn National and WIHS prior to taking our Maddie to the last two Foxchase Farm shows, I'm still trying to figure out how jumpers are run. I think that numbering the jumps is a big help, how anyone can figure out which way they're supposed to go is beyond me! Kudos to those who make the attempt. The judge was wonderful in helping the riders get the course down in their mind.

                          By working very hard to accomodate those who did come to show, there was a bit of miscommunication, not unheard of, but it was a bit disconcerting to find that one of "my" riders rode in an entire jumper division (was champion, happy day!) only do find that the division she had thought she was riding had been cancelled and that she'd done the classes "my" other rider had entered on the same horse. It may have been announced and we missed it, since all jaws dropped as everyone stared at a child being dragged on his back by the arm towards a van while his mother screamed she'd take a strap to him.

                          I was less than pleased with both of my horses, but knew by taking the two goobers together I was signing up for a lot of fidgiting and misbehavior. Some day I'll learn to take them one at a time and have some peace!

                          We were happy, however, that although Maddie missed out on showing jumpers at 3', she was allowed to do an unjudged round and she was marvellous. I also was kindly refunded the entry fees for the division we missed so there were no ill feelings at all.

                          For anyone thinking about attending one of these shows, it's in a good location and being across the drive from the Nokesville Park ring and trails gave us an excellent place to school without subjecting the rest of the competitors to my horses antics. We were very glad also to find that, when the bottled water we brought along ran out, there was still a good supply available at the concession table as anyone riding Maddie will tell you it's thirsty work!

                          I'd advise anyone with a horse that has dog issues to work that out before going, as the neighbor's dog is in close juxtaposition to the Hollow Oak ring and has a tendance to rush the fence snarling and barking. Fortunately, it's enclosure is sturdy and the picket fence is much better than chain link or some other type might be visually.

                          It was a gorgeous day to be out with horses and I was pleased to find we were able to make the drive from our barn in under 40 minutes and avoided the I95 weekend summer traffic night mare, one of the criteria on my list when we looked for a place to show this weekend.
                          "If you would have only one day to live, you should spend at least half of it in the saddle."

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                          • #53
                            Originally posted by Everythingbutwings View Post
                            ... since all jaws dropped as everyone stared at a child being dragged on his back by the arm towards a van while his mother screamed she'd take a strap to him.
                            Klassy!
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                            Life Goes On

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                            • #54
                              Isn't it interesting how out of control parents raise out of control children!

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                              • #55
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                                They're small hearts.

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                                • #56
                                  Wings and Trixie I am so happy for you both and Maddie, what a superstar...you have to be so proud of how incredibly they have turned out...

                                  Ok the upside down screaming child...that is just plain Krazy!
                                  "All life is precious"
                                  Sophie Scholl

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                                  • #57
                                    Originally posted by Everythingbutwings View Post
                                    ......since all jaws dropped as everyone stared at a child being dragged on his back by the arm towards a van while his mother screamed she'd take a strap to him.
                                    Oh my!!! I don't know if there are any VHSA Associate rules regarding such behavior but I hope this was reported to show management because I do know there are laws to protect children! The scary part, in my opinion, is this was done in front of lots of folks....poor child..what happens when there's no one around?
                                    Debbie Hanson
                                    www.ratemyhorsepro.com


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                                    • #58
                                      I do believe the child was being dragged BY the show management, if I 've read correctly.

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                                      • #59
                                        Originally posted by sarapony View Post
                                        I do believe the child was being dragged BY the show management, if I 've read correctly.
                                        I wonder if the VHSA, alerted by SI, is still reading this thread?
                                        Debbie Hanson
                                        www.ratemyhorsepro.com


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                                        • #60
                                          Originally posted by secret interlude View Post
                                          When my lawyer files the demand letter, yes, it will be labeled as "libel", however the bottom line layman's term is - in fact, slander. That's why I have a red hot lawyer, I don't have to be red hot at everything I do, just most things
                                          Then your "red hot" lawyer will also know that when one files a lawsuit for libel or slander, one must prove financial loss occuring directly from the defamation. Since you've said yourself that you have no financial interest in your horse shows, right here on this very thread, you have no basis for a lawsuit.

                                          And I'm not even a lawyer.

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