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Is there a market for the small Junior Hunter

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  • Is there a market for the small Junior Hunter

    It seems that everyone wants something over 16.2 if not taller these days. If you have a lovely fancy horse that is 15 maybe 15.1 is there a market for that size horse? She is a lovely mover, jumper etc...
    Mai Tai aka Tyler RIP March 1994-December 2011
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  • #2
    Originally posted by ivy62 View Post
    It seems that everyone wants something over 16.2 if not taller these days. If you have a lovely fancy horse that is 15 maybe 15.1 is there a market for that size horse? She is a lovely mover, jumper etc...
    I don't know that there is a huge market for something that is 15-15.1, but there is definitely a market for a small junior that is 15.3 - 15.3 7/8
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    • #3
      Yes for the small junior hunter, but generally no for one that small.


      • #4
        There's definitely a market for the small junior that jumps well and has the step to get down the lines. Most of the successful ones I've seen were in the 15.3 to 15.3 7/8 range though. The stride to get down the lines easily is very important.


        • Original Poster

          That is a shame because she is really nice..but just to big for a pony but to small for the juniors...Oh well, thought I would ask...
          Mai Tai aka Tyler RIP March 1994-December 2011
          Grief is the price we pay for love- Gretchen Jackson
          "And here she comes. Is it a bird? Is it a plane? No, it's ZENYATTA!"


          • #6
            What kind of stride does she have? If she can walk the lines at 3'6" and is a fancy mover/jumper, yes, there is a $$$$ market.

            If not... well, can she do the job at 3'? If so, then you might have yourself a children's hunter or something along those lines. At 2'6" it may find a home as a pre-children's mount.

            However, generally speaking the above posters are correct... people want their smalls to be as close to the top of the line as possible.
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            • #7
              I agree that unless the horse is spectacular at 3'6" and gets the stride easily it might not be the perfect small junior at 15.1, however IMO that's a great size for a younger childrens horse if he/she jumps cute over 3' and has a big stride.

              IMO a smaller horse makes a much nicer picture over 3' with a smaller child than a big horse does.
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              • #8
                If it has a really big step, then yes.

                I knew a horse that was 15'1 that won a class at Devon and then was sold for alot of money. It was a great horse, but small, but it had a great step. They are out there, but rare.


                • #9
                  If the horse is a legit 15.1h and can walk the lines, sure. But... I have to ask, are you exaggerating its size a bit? Could it measure as a pony or is it a legit hony?


                  • #10
                    I have one of those too...was supposed to be a large pony, but both grandsires being 17 hands took over haha! Super nice and fancy, but 15.1 as a coming 4 year old! Does have a decent size step though!
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                    • #11
                      There's a market for everything. You just have to price it appropriately.
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                      • #12
                        I don't know about the $$ angle, but in VA there is a small hunter division at the rated shows (not all, but many shows have it) and some really nice horses show in that division (Me and Julio comes to mind and he is also shown in the small juniors). That division is for horses over the pony height limit with a max of 15.2 hands.

                        In the end, the scopey horses with good step always come ahead of those with less talent. A small junior is best when they don't have to scurry down the lines (same for large ponies, etc.) to make the strides as the picture is much more pleasant when they can keep a consistent stride throughout.


                        • Original Poster

                          Yes she is a horse, has been measured but I cannot remember if she is 15 or 15.1..The market where she is, is so depressed and not a real hunter area..She is priced to sell but no takers yet....
                          Mai Tai aka Tyler RIP March 1994-December 2011
                          Grief is the price we pay for love- Gretchen Jackson
                          "And here she comes. Is it a bird? Is it a plane? No, it's ZENYATTA!"


                          • #14
                            Does she have the step and scope to be a 3'6" horse (and stay sound)? If so, then price her that way (albeit it lower than a 15.3 horse).
                            If she struggles or you think she'll have a hard time campaigning her as a 3'6" horse then market her as a 3' horse and price her accordingly.
                            "ronnie was the gifted one, victor was the brilliant intellect, and i [GM], well, i am the plodder."


                            • #15
                              If the horse is athletic and has a big stride.


                              • #16
                                Post a picture here, I'd love to see what she looks like!


                                • #17
                                  If she can do the step without looking like she is running, and has a great jump then yes, but if not then she is mostly a long stirrup type horse.