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  • does your trainer.....

    close the arenas when it rains? i live in california and its going to rain off and on all week... Ive never been to a barn that "closes" the arenas? is this normal?

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    No we never close the arena. I could imagine closing them if they get to slick for whatever reason or if it's grass.
    No hour of life is wasted that is spent in the saddle. ~Winston Churchill
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    • #3
      Our trainer doesn't close the arenas (we have 4) but no kids come out on rainy days, only people with enough judgement to look out for their horses. If it rains really hard I go for a light ride or walk out in the back fields.

      The only reason (besides safety) i can think of for closing the arenas is, by riding in the yucky, gooey, slop you might churn it up and mess up the arena footing somehow. Some arena experts might prove or disprove that claim but if its really sloppy it might mess up the base layer? I haven't got a clue.

      Best of luck.

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      • #4
        My trainer does close the arena. It just gets really sloppy and wet, and a little slick. Also, it does mess up the footing so after a heavy rain we usually have to wait 1-2 days for it to adequately dry so it can be rolled and raked. I'm in CA also so not many indoors around here. Riding in the winter when its a wet one suuuuuucks

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        • #5
          I'm in N. CA and I close my ring when it is storming because if you seal it prior to rain and keep off of it during the rain it generally dries up with in a day. I haul to an indoor or do hill work when it is too wet to use the ring. If you use a ring in the rain it takes much longer to dry and can affect your base creating further problems with drying in the future. Good Luck!
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            #6
            we are only supposed to have light showers this week and she is closing the arenas. to cose an arena for a week seems a little out of control esp when you spend a lot of money in board to ride. i know riding in the slop is a pain but i think its unfair to have the horses cooped up for a week because of "showers". what do the east coasters do, not ride all winter long? sounds odd to me. never been at any barn that closes the arena for a week. i could see if it was pouring down rain to cancel lessons, that i totally understand.

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            • #7
              Sounds odd to me too... I'm with you, especially if it's only going to be light rain.
              Platinum Equestrian - Florida, USA

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              • #8
                Yup! If you don't trash it when its wet- it will be usable much faster afterwards. Ultimately, they have to maintain the footing as best they can- and sometimes that means not using it. The indoor gets super crowded- but everyone survives.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by tallygirl View Post
                  what do the east coasters do, not ride all winter long?
                  Use the indoor I can't think of one training barn in the area that doesn't have an indoor ring. I don't I would ride nearly as often in the winter if I didn't have access to an indoor ring
                  No hour of life is wasted that is spent in the saddle. ~Winston Churchill
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                  • #10
                    I live in California and our outdoor arenas will probably be closed this week too, but we have an indoor
                    If only horses would use their athletic powers for good instead of evil. ~ MHM

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                    • #11
                      If you're somewhere near Los Angeles, it's supposed to rain pretty hard off and on all week. The footing here is meant to hold water because most of the year it's dry and we have to water the rings to keep them from getting dusty. I can see why a barn manager would want to close the arenas - footing is expensive and riding in it when it's that sloppy can really ruin it (turns it into valleys, hard and deep spots). Also, this kind of footing tends to be a bit on the slick side so you don't want a horse to hurt himself.

                      Facilities close the arenas after they seal them to make sure the rings dry out as quickly as possible. Flattening them (sealing) cuts down on the dry out period by about a day. But if it rains Monday, Wednesday, and Friday, there won't be enough time for the rings to dry out before the rain hits again.

                      And you think this is bad? You should have been in Los Angeles a few years back when half of the mountains were sliding down. We didn't ride for almost two months because of the wet weather patterns. The horses were bonkers. But it doesn't happen that frequently. I do a lot of walk work with the horses on dirt roads when it rains (laterals, extension, compression, turning, halting, etc). Or if they've worked especially hard, they get some much earned time off.

                      As far as east-coasters, a friend of mine lived/boarded in Pennsylvania where there wasn't an indoor. She basically didn't ride the whole winter because it was too cold or the snow was too slick. We have it pretty easy in CA!

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                      • #12
                        Common practice to "seal" the rings so the water runs off better and then close them until after it rains and they are dry enough. So, if you get into a weather pattern where it rains, then stops for two days, then rains for one, then stops and rains for two, you can lose a week or more. The first rain, or one where it hasn't rained for awhile, is the worst.

                        Generally more than half an inch or so will close things down--once you get much past that, the difference in when you'll be able to ride with an inch vs five inches, is pretty negligible.

                        The dirt here is often adobe which doesn't percolate well and gets slippery. So, a common practice is to put a base of something like DG (decomposed granite) with the other footing on top. Especially, the first rain it will tend to go down to the adobe and sit so it looks OK on the top until you try to walk in it. Whereupon you sink, turn what looks like dry sand into mush, or go down to the base and slide. The base is soft so hooves can punch thru that down to the adobe, which then comes up in clumps. Forevermore.
                        The Evil Chem Prof

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                        • #13
                          yes, I'm in SoCal and our main arena is sealed and closed when we're expecting rain. We do have access to another arena, and quite a few paddocks, but they generally get pretty sloppy. Every barn that I've ridden at in the LA area has done the same (only one had an indoor, which was nice.)

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                          • #14
                            I know of one barn in So. Cal. that had tarps made for the arenas so that down time was minimized. This is the first winter with the tarps, so it will be interesting to see how they do. The problem with some barns is that they close the arenas way before the rain comes. They do this to accomodate the maintenance staff. It is frustrating to come down to ride and find out that the arenas are closed and rain is a good 12 hours out. It does however save the footing to have the rings sealed before the rain. How do the arenas do in areas where it rains year round? Do you all go indoors or do you just ride outside in the rain? If you ride outside, what kind of footing do you use? Us in So. Cal. do not deal with the rain much and we have been in a drought for the last few years. Covered arenas are a very rare comodity.

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                            • #15
                              I live in SoCal, and our barn does "seal" and lock the arenas prior to a 30% or greater chance of rain. This really helps the water to run off the surface and preserve the footing so that we can ride after it has dried somewhat. The last barn I was at waited until after it was raining to close and drag the arenas, and the footing was never as nice, and it would take a long time to dry. Yes, we have to work around the schedule of the maintenance crews, which today meant the rings were locked by 4pm for tonight's showers, but it is worth it. They usually leave the round pens and turnouts unlocked, so they can be used, but they get really sloppy.

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                              • #16
                                I haven't ridden at a barn in NorCal yet that doesn't close the arenas outdoors when it rains excessively. The place I am now may be okay if there is a break, but I have a lame horse so I can't use it anyway >.<

                                Sealing is very common in this area for places that only have outdoor arenas - the facilities with covered arenas usually just close the outdoors.
                                Coruscant Stables

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                                • #17
                                  i live in socal, yea i think its normal. our barn always seals the arena and well use the indoor arena to ride in until the rain is done. So that way when the rain is done it will drain quickly and dry up alot faster. and the footing will be less slippery.

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                                  • #18
                                    Originally posted by PonyPenny View Post
                                    I know of one barn in So. Cal. that had tarps made for the arenas so that down time was minimized. This is the first winter with the tarps, so it will be interesting to see how they do. The problem with some barns is that they close the arenas way before the rain comes. They do this to accomodate the maintenance staff. It is frustrating to come down to ride and find out that the arenas are closed and rain is a good 12 hours out. It does however save the footing to have the rings sealed before the rain. How do the arenas do in areas where it rains year round? Do you all go indoors or do you just ride outside in the rain? If you ride outside, what kind of footing do you use? Us in So. Cal. do not deal with the rain much and we have been in a drought for the last few years. Covered arenas are a very rare comodity.
                                    those tarps sound awesome!!

                                    i don't really mind the rain. sure, riding the horses after they've been cooped up in their stalls for a few days is usually no fun (hahaha last year my friend and i thought it would be fun to tack walk one horse while we ponied our other...bad idea!!), but, hey, at least the horses get a nice little break.

                                    oh, yeah. and we seal too. and trust me, the difference between dry time in a sealed vs. unsealed arena is quite dramatic. those (rare) rains that come without warning (where we don't have time to seal) are always the worst.

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                                    • #19
                                      Originally posted by tallygirl View Post
                                      we are only supposed to have light showers this week and she is closing the arenas. to cose an arena for a week seems a little out of control esp when you spend a lot of money in board to ride. i know riding in the slop is a pain but i think its unfair to have the horses cooped up for a week because of "showers". what do the east coasters do, not ride all winter long? sounds odd to me. never been at any barn that closes the arena for a week. i could see if it was pouring down rain to cancel lessons, that i totally understand.
                                      The "east coasters" have indoor arenas for the most part. Even a large amount of southern farms have enclosed or covered rings.
                                      Experienced riders are not prone to brag. And usually newcomers, if they start out being boastful, end up modest. -C.J.J. Mullen

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                                      • #20
                                        And this is the very reason that I am so thankful for my indoor arena. :] I actually stop riding in the outdoor in mid August or earlier. Then I continue on with the indoor. My number one reason for that is it being too dark when I ride, but there's also that it's really, REALLY cold outside. :P

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