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besides PdNs, other good used "pancakes" out there?

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  • besides PdNs, other good used "pancakes" out there?

    I got a nice used pancake flat Crosby PdN that I really liked, but although it measured right for my leg, it just did not fit me right. I struggled with it for many months because I loved how I could feel my horse in it. I rode better w/o stirrups in it, but when I put my stirrups back there was always something screwy. Anyway, I keep looking at them and wondering if a different size might be the answer, but I think before I go that route I should investigate a different maker. I can't afford a Hermes Steinkraus, even seriously used, and they're pretty freakin' rare, anyway. Can anybody suggest some models I might be able to turn up in a similar price range to a PdN with the old school CC design?
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    Crump Prix de Saute-- I had one "back in the day" and it's very, very similar to the PdN. They come up on ebay every now and then.

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    • #3
      I've seen a lot of the Steinkraus on eBay, they may not be as rare as you think.

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      • #4
        There's a Prix de Saute (17.5) on ebay now and also one at Middleburg Tack Exchange. Both are just under $200. The trees tend to run a little narrow but they are very flat. I have one that is the only saddle I've ever had that fits one of my high withered tbs. I love riding in it.

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        • #5
          I LOVED my old school Crump Prix de Saute!!! I received it as a gift in the early nineties and it still looked great when I sold in '06. I would have kept it, but it did not fit my new OTTB. Had I known what it was going to sell for on Ebay, I would have kept it! I really can't say enough good things about it.

          That being said, be sure if you decide to go that route, that you get one of the older Crumps. I believe the company was sold and under the "new" ownership, the quality went downhill. The older stuff from early '90s, awesome!

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          • #6
            friend has an old collegiate saddle. flat as a pancake. we've got a crosby something in the school barn too. equilibrium maybe? it;s pretty flat. also comfortable. no knee rolls or blocks or anything. it's pretty old school.
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            • #7
              old Stubben. I used to ride in one. Flat and slippery as hell but definitely helped develop my seat!

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              • #8
                Might check out some older Beval Devon's, as well.

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                • #9
                  Candyman saddles are great if you can find one!

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                  • #10
                    I am so surprised to see you mention a Candyman. I have one made in bridle leather....it is still a great saddle and is sitting in my tack closet. I used it to start all my babies. If we were closer I would sell it to you We used it some the past two summers and it is actually a nicer saddle than the PDN I also still have.I am not good at letting the things I am not using go.

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                    • #11
                      You might not like the depth, but at least sit in a Crosby Hunterdon. It may have a stirrup bar-to-center of seat length that works for you.

                      I also really like my Crosby AGA Grand Prix. Mine is odd-- it has no pencil roll under the knee. But even the ones that do might suit you. These were well-balanced and beautifully made saddles.

                      All of these are likely to be a tad narrow for most modern horses. You may be able to find an AGA Grand Prix in a wide.

                      While you are at it, you might consider a Crosby Equilibrium (the original saddle they built with Tad Coffin).

                      Every once in a while, you will see a pristine version of one of these old saddles that has been sitting in someone's closet forever. I'd partially let the appearance of one of these miracles determine which one I bought.
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                      • #12
                        There are usually several Hermes on ebay. Also, My County Stabilizer is pretty flat.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by mvp View Post
                          You might not like the depth, but at least sit in a Crosby Hunterdon. It may have a stirrup bar-to-center of seat length that works for you.
                          I agree with this! I have a Hunterdon, and while I think I would personally prefer the PdN's depth I do love my saddle. If you can find one, definitely try it out.

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                          • #14
                            Another vote for a Crump Prix de Saute. I got one for the BF to learn to ride... it doesn't fit his butt, and is too big for mine, which is sad, because it's really nice!
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                            • #15
                              Might check out some older Beval Devon's, as well.
                              I second this. Try a Beval Devon 2000. The Crosby Hampton Classic is nice as well.

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                              • #16
                                I love my old Clinton Northrup close contact saddle. Flat as a pancake, but still comfortable and has the best balance of any saddle I've ever owned.
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                                • #17
                                  JustaBay-- is that your Candyman on Ebay right now?

                                  I have never seen one mentioned, or up for sale....let alone at the same moment.

                                  I looks cool. If is is yours, can you tell me whether it's flocked with foam or wool? I'm not in the market, just curious.
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                                  • #18
                                    the crosby sovereigns are pretty darn flat too.
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                                    • #19
                                      The last several 16.5 inch older Hermes saddles that have sold on eBay have gone for a little over $600... The one I bought went for even less than that.

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                                        Huh! Every used Hermes I've ever seen, even on eBay, has been priced at least 2k. Bad timing on me I guess. But thanks for so many great suggestions! I'm familiar with Crump; they resold Zaldi, a Spanish maker, which for many years was a real favorite of mine. Can't beat leather from Salamanca, no matter what you say about the French. And they also made great cutbacks when I rode Saddlebreds. I'll take a look at the Prix de Saute that's on eBay!I have also heard the story about the Candymans, but I can't remember the details anymore.
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