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  • The 2' 6" horse

    In an effort to gain some clarity and prevent a thread from being hijacked I shall start this new thread.

    How much is a 2' 6" horse worth? Does it top out at 2' 6" or not?
    Is it a valuable horse to own?
    Can any horse do 2' 6"?
    What makes it different from horses that can jump higher?

  • #2
    Most any horse or pony can jump 2'6" unless otherwise prevented because of soundness issues, etc. The value of that horse is going to be largely determined by how fancy it is, breeding, rideablity, and age. My guy could be considered a 2'6" horse I suppose (He used to do higher, but I take it easy on him now since he is getting older). He's a good mover and a really good jumper. However, he is not easy to ride and does not currently do the changes (well, he does them when he wants to ). I would value him at 7,000. If he was 5 years younger, did the changes, and had better brakes, he could probably go for around 20,000+. Hopefully that gives you a general idea.
    "To do something that you feel in your heart that's great, you need to make a lot of mistakes. Anything that is successful is a series of mistakes." -B.J. Armstrong


    • #3
      Maybe $10k- $20k depending on location.


      • #4
        Originally posted by enjoytheride View Post
        In an effort to gain some clarity and prevent a thread from being hijacked I shall start this new thread.

        How much is a 2' 6" horse worth? Does it top out at 2' 6" or not?
        Is it a valuable horse to own?
        Can any horse do 2' 6"?
        What makes it different from horses that can jump higher?
        that would be an average joe public horse as most only jump 2ft 6 in a comfort zone the more braver go upto 3ft nine
        if one was to go to shows theres a lot of entries in absolute novice , novice
        and less in the imtermeidate than the open

        thats unaffiliated same to in the affiliated classes only the braver more courageous riders with confidence to take the horse higher will enter

        most horse can jump 2ft 6ins easily its the rider that have the problem

        so average joe bloggs horse thats jumps 2ft 6in is average joe bloggs price
        where as one that can jump 1.60 + is worth more

        and a horse thats a good allorunder than can and does go clear in all that it does ie x/c ht one da event or sj -- and is in the prize money constantly is worth more than one that just goes round
        ie agianst the clock or timed classes where by one round wins

        2f 6 horse to me is average price of 3-5000k depending on ability of all roundment and size type of horse and age


        • #5
          Several years ago, I leased a mare who is a true 2'6" horse in the sense that that's the height she tops out at due to the length of her stride. She can jump 3' in true knees-to-eyeballs, back-cracking style, but her stride is too short to make it down the lines at the A-rated shows in VA without doing the ads. So, for all intents and purposes, 2'6" is where she tops out.

          She has a great brain and is unfazed by anything a novice rider can do (trust me, I put her patience and sanity to the test many times), clocks around in one consistent rhythm with her ears up and expression bright, has auto changes, and jumps super-cute. No prep, no maintenance regimine, sound as a dollar. As long as I didn't do anything too ridiculous, we could pin in big classes and always had a shot at a tri-color...assuming we showed in a novice or pre-adult class that didn't also serve as a warm-up for the horses going in the 3' divisions (in which case we were outclassed). We showed and pinned at HITS, Lexington, Keswick, etc.... I think you could consider her pretty close to the ideal 2'6" horse in that she was saintly enough to tolerate novice riders and cute enough to win.

          When I had her, she was about 10 years old and arguably at her best, she was priced at $10K. I think that adequately reflected the fact that she was a fantastic little horse who was great at her job but clearly wasn't going to become anyone's 3' horse. A horse that has the potential to move up obviously would be worth more.
          Last edited by GreenMachine; Nov. 29, 2009, 04:33 PM.


          • #6
            For one that is going and winning and can't be more than a 2'6" horse? $5K to $15K. And for $15K, it had better win the hack, have a decent prepurchase exam, and be a seeing eye dog to the jumps. Although for a rider who needs one, this horse is worth its weight in gold, it really shouldn't be that expensive. I could find plenty that look the part and are safe and competent at this level for less than $10K. JMHO.
            Ristra Ranch Equestrian Jewelry


            • #7
              I paid 40K for a horse I have never shown above 2" (rusty stirrup). After a year of getting to know each other - we consistently did well at the A shows. If I'm riding well, we usually pin well and frequently get the tricolor. My trainer has shown him with success at 3 foot. He's very easy, safe for a nervous adult and moves cute (will win or pin well in the hack in good company). The plan was for him to be my move-up horse. But I'm not sure it will happen. I'm preggers now and he's hanging out in a field. I might find that 3" always looks too big for me!
              * Sunny * Ella (2006 filly) * Tank (2008 colt)*


              • #8
                Depends on the market. In parts of some zones the 2'6" divisions are really competitive, in others they are not taken seriously. I know of people who have paid as high as $30k and as little as $500 for 2'6" horses at varying levels of made-ness. THey can be extremely valuable for adults or re-riders who don't have the desire to ever go higher, but want a quality, flashy, trustworthy and fancy hunter. They can also be very valuable to a trainer who can pass the horse from kid to kid as they move up. I have one of those now and if he were ever to be offered for sale (he won't be) he would carry a big price tag.


                • #9
                  Interesting question...

                  In terms of height alone, barring any major soundness, conformational, or temperamental issues, I think every horse has the capability to jump three feet. They won't all do it in style, but they're all capable of making it over.

                  However, not all horses will be able to be successful in the show ring at 3'. Many horses who are able to make it over the height simply don't have the step to make it down the lines once the heights are raised from 2'6". To me, that's what people mean when they say a horse is maxed out at 2'6": it can make it down the lines comfortably.

                  Granted, there's also the question of brains. Since 2'6" is generally a novice division, "good" 2'6" horses are ones that not only have a fancy jump and can make the step, but can bring a semi-unbalanced, nervous, and/or hesitant rider around a course. It would, of course, also have a lead change - and if it's fancy, and going for a higher price range (around $15K in my area, I believe) also be winning the hacks in style.


                  • #10
                    It depends on if the horse is actually limited to the 2'6" or if that is just what the rider wants to jump. If it's the latter, they can buy a very fancy horse out of another division and spend as much as they want on it. Many do. Some of them intend to move up to 3', and may do so, some don't or won't. But if you went to buy a horse out of the 2'6" division the horse that is capable of going back into the 3'6" division from which it came is still a very expensive animal, and the horse that is only a 2'6" horse by virtue of its step or scope is not.


                    • #11
                      IMO the biggest difference between the 2'6 (Green rider/low childrens) and the 3' is the dreaded two-stride that the course designers use. There are a lot of horses that just don't have the step or scope to chip in and canter out of a two-stride if the rider makes a mistake. So the 2'6-2'9 divisions at many A shows can still be really competitive with some fancy horses, some of which are priced at $50K or more. Then there are the other factors- movement, soundness, manners, etc.


                      • #12
                        Tex Mex may have answered my question, but I am going to ask anyway. Shouldn't a horse that can jump 2'6" or 3' have an easier time making it down the lines at 3'? Or are they setting shorter distances (as they should) in the 2'6" lines.

                        Not sure if I am making myself clear, but wouldn't the greater jump height make it easier for the slightly shorter strided horse to make it down the line?


                        • #13
                          They tend to move out the lines.
                          They're small hearts.


                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Tex Mex View Post
                            So the 2'6-2'9 divisions at many A shows can still be really competitive with some fancy horses, some of which are priced at $50K or more.
                            I still cannot wrap my mind around spending $50K+ for a horse that doesn't have the scope for a 48' two stride at 3'. Wow.
                            Please don't sabotash my conchess.


                            • #15
                              I would say a horse that jumps no higher than 2' 6" is in the range of $15,000-$20,000 a horse in that price range would also be totally broke and virtually bombproof and sound! Otherwise $5,000-$10,000
                              EveryEquestrian.com An equine marketing service catering to horse buyers, sellers, and breeders.


                              • #16
                                They will definitely move the lines out for the 3'.

                                I can't fathom spending that much for a 2'6 horse either, but there is an entire universe of kids and ammys that will stay in those lower divisions forever and they want to WIN! Especially the hack, since they know they are inconsistent over fences. Some of the nicest horses at the AA shows never step foot in the 3'. It's crazy...


                                • #17
                                  40K for a 2'6" horse? Damn. I'll meet you at the shows and tote you around on my back over a 2'6" course for a whole season for that! I think I couild move up to the 3' with a light weight rider. Not sure how I'd do in the hack though. I might have trouble keeping up with the pace with someone on my back.
                                  Stoneybrook Farm Afton TN


                                  • #18
                                    There are $50k horses in 2'6 divisions, not because they are 2'6 horses but because they have owners that are 2'6 riders.

                                    In theory just about any horse should be able to jump 2'6. The question (and the price) is all about what you want him to do with it. A horse that is easy and sane and pretty enough for the clueless ammy to show at A shows is different from the trail horse that is capable of 2'6 but doesn't have to put 8 nice fences together in a row to get a ribbon.
                                    F O.B
                                    Resident racing historian ~~~ Re-riders Clique
                                    Founder of the Mighty Thoroughbred Clique


                                    • #19
                                      Originally posted by Haalter View Post
                                      I still cannot wrap my mind around spending $50K+ for a horse that doesn't have the scope for a 48' two stride at 3'. Wow.
                                      You would give me a heart attack if you did two strides in a 48' line! It should be set at 36' for a 3 foot class.


                                      • #20
                                        Two years ago in California...$20k to $50k. This year...free to good home. Word.
                                        Derby Hill~The Outside Course