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What Saddles Do the Top hunter and Jumper Riders Ride In?

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  • What Saddles Do the Top hunter and Jumper Riders Ride In?

    After reading the Tad Coffin thread where the point was made about what top riders use them. It made me think about what saddles do the top riders use? It is frequently hard to see what it is they are sitting in but I think it is rather an interesting question. The only one I have to add is I am pretty sure Beth Underhill rides in Antares.

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    I'd say the top brands are Antares, Hermes, CWD, County, Devoucoux, Beval (Butet), Prestige, Stackhouse, and probably a few others I am forgetting.
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      the Pessoa!

      I'd say the top brands are Antares, Hermes, CWD, County, Devoucoux, Beval (Butet), Prestige, Stackhouse, and probably a few others I am forgetting.
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      • #4
        Top riders often ride in whatever saddle the company that sponsors them offers. Doesn't mean they don't like them, but most don't care much one way or the other and could as easily ride in an Antares or a CWD or whatever. The reps from those companies provide whatever sort of options the rider prefers and most will give a discount or bonus of sorts for each sale they make to the rider's clients that purchase based on their recommendation.
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        • #5
          Of the top of my head: Antares, Hermes, CWD, Devoucoux, Butet, Prestige, Delgrange and probably a few others I am forgetting.

          I have never heard of a Stackhouse
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          • #6
            Stackhouse is a very eventer-ish brand. Gaining popularity with the tall male jumper riders though.
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            • #7
              Yup, they ride in the saddles that sponsors give them. If those saddles fit them and the horse well, they'll ride in those puppies at home, too.

              But the pros ride in what works for them. But I can't imagine what that has to do with what anyone else rides in. The geometry of their body determines what they like; yours will do the same. Remember, however, that pros differ from ammies to two important respects: They tend to be fitter than we are (but also have more milage on their body), and ride tougher horses. Both of those things determine saddle choice as well as their perception of a saddle's balance.

              And don't forget that even the unsponsored riders get deals from saddlers. If you walk into a barn full of Devoucoux saddles, for example, it may not mean that that saddles is the very best for you.
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              • #8
                Almost the whole US Olympic team rode in CWDs. Apparently, Mclain refuses to ride in anything else...just what I heard through the grapevine

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                • #9
                  If this is a pro who is riding *my* horse around the ring, s/he is using my saddle that has been fitted to that horse.
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                  • #10
                    Do you go looking for pros that are your size and shape? You can't pick a professional based on whether or not they're going to fit in your saddle. They're going to bring their own that they feel comfortable in, unless yours is of similar size and style.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by CBoylen View Post
                      Do you go looking for pros that are your size and shape? You can't pick a professional based on whether or not they're going to fit in your saddle. They're going to bring their own that they feel comfortable in, unless yours is of similar size and style.
                      First of all, I very rarely have pros ride my horses.

                      Secondly, I ride in 17.5-ish saddles, which is pretty standard. They approximately fit most people.

                      Thirdly, saddle fit is important to me. I do not believe that one medium tree will fit most horses. For this reason I own multiple saddles that are different widths and different shapes. They are not interchangeable on different horses. I notice when the fit is gappy under the tree points, when the panels aren't the same angle as the back, when the saddle simply wasn't designed for a high withered horse, etc.

                      Surely if people routinely expect horses to "just deal" with whatever saddle that approximately fits (or fits TRAGICALLY as is often visible from 50 yards away in the schooling area), I can put the horse first for a change and expect a rider to "just deal."

                      So the fit is a little off.
                      Eh, you can deal.

                      Or the riders can, of course, only go looking to ride horses that are their saddle's size and shape rather than blithely expecting every horse on the planet to put up with sub par saddle fit. Which is, btw, what every person who puts the same saddle on every single horse they ride is doing.


                      Obviously if their saddle happens to fit well they can go right ahead, but if somebody's saddle does not fit my horse, and they refuse to ride in something that does, they will not be riding my horse.
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                      • #12
                        I'm fussy about saddle fit, too. I know how to fit horses pretty well, and I can usually predict how much damage I'll do by riding a horse in an ill-fitting saddle. I also know how to help fix minor damage I do.

                        That having been said, I do think most horses with undamaged backs can cope with one division worth of riding in a sort-of-wrong saddle at a show.

                        But the original point of the thread was about how much merit anyone ought to place in what another person chooses as their saddle of choice. Unless you do, in fact, pick your pro by judging how similar their body type is to yours.
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                        • #13
                          stackhouse FYI

                          http://www.stackhousesaddles.com/stackhousesaddle.html

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                          • #14
                            some of you are getting off the track here. I think the poster is just looking for a few brand names, without all the hyperbole about bad saddle fit, my trainer will ride my horse in whatever I say, etc.

                            how about let's have the thread discuss the pros and cons of the different ones people have had experience with as well as ones that you definitely know a top rider uses. forget all this stuff about bad saddle fit, etc. Everyone knows that.
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                              Thank you feather river.....my interest was in what big name people ride in what saddles. I was sort of thinking what merits each big name saddle offers or why they use that saddle but I guess frequently a free saddle may be the motivation....not quality, balance, how the saddle positions the rider. There are alot of big name saddles and selecting one is difficult but knowing if the saddle one is considering is in actual competition with a big name rider would be interesting to know. If so many are using a free saddle the maker is not really getting much bang for the buck if the information just stays in the BNT barn. For instance what make is Tommy Serio's saddle, or what saddle was on Rumba when he won the Hunter Derby?

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                                Originally posted by Treasmare2 View Post
                                Thank you feather river.....my interest was in what big name people ride in what saddles. I was sort of thinking what merits each big name saddle offers or why they use that saddle but I guess frequently a free saddle may be the motivation....not quality, balance, how the saddle positions the rider. There are alot of big name saddles and selecting one is difficult but knowing if the saddle one is considering is in actual competition with a big name rider would be interesting to know. If so many are using a free saddle the maker is not really getting much bang for the buck if the information just stays in the BNT barn. For instance what make is Tommy Serio's saddle, or what saddle was on Rumba when he won the Hunter Derby?
                                I believe John French (who rode Rumba to the win in the Derby) is sponsored by Devoucoux.

                                Most of the higher end saddles include custom fitting - so the balance, fit etc is adjusted to suit the rider/horse. So the saddle that sits on Rumba might be lovely, but totally different from a Devoucoux purchased for someone else (or someone else's horse.) The "endorsement" such as it is, is more about quality and service than it is about a specific product.

                                The best way to select a saddle, IMO, is to try a bazillion of them and see what suits you and your horse. I've had most of the high end stuff - Devoucoux, Antares, TC, etc. I currently ride in a Butet, which is more or less an off the rack saddle - you can choose the seat (flat or deep) the flap length, etc, but it's not one of a kind. I prefer it to the custom Antares and Devoucoux saddles I previously purchased for this particular horse. Antares was great to work with and tried hard to come up with a solution for me (although they ultimately failed, they did cheerfully refund my $$$) while Devoucoux was an absolute nightmare to deal with.

                                If you are in the market for a new saddle, try to find somewhere where you can find a bunch of different brands, sizes and styles. The mobile vendors at big shows are often great for this, as they tend to have a wide variety on hand. Happy shopping!
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                                • #17
                                  For instance what make is Tommy Serio's saddle
                                  Tommy rides in Richard Castelows. They're specific to what he wants though, not exactly the same as other RC saddles.

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                                  • #18
                                    Originally posted by CBoylen View Post
                                    Tommy rides in Richard Castelows. They're specific to what he wants though, not exactly the same as other RC saddles.
                                    I drool everytime I see or ride in an RC. I am so in love. Its almost an affair with my CWD. Haha but I do love my CWD. I didn't pick it because the big guys were riding in it, I picked it because it fit me the best, offered what I wanted for myself the best and it only costed $500 if I were to get a new horse to have new panels put on. I had the best balance for me, least amount of bulk, blocks in the right places, and I heard great things about their customer service(which all turned out to be true when I thought I was haivng a few problems with the saddle).

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                                    • #19
                                      Megan Edrick rides in CWD, she rides for Don Stewart.

                                      I just bought a Devouscous and love it, I bought a lamicil pad that's great for fitting the multitude of horses I ride. Love the lamicil pad!!

                                      If that doesn't work however I have a County that is very different and fits also of horses as well with varying the pad.

                                      As far as Pros riding in your not their saddle, I haven't come across a pro that hasn't brought their saddle when thay have come to ride my horses.
                                      I just have it put on my horse check it repad if necessary and then he's off.
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                                      • #20
                                        Albert Zoer, Harry Smolders, Rolf Goran Bengtsson, Kevin Staut, Steve Guerdat and McLain Ward are all riding in CWD saddles...
                                        6 out of the 12 world's best jumper riders (current FEI ranking list)!!! Not to mention Will Simpson, Louise Serio, Nick Karazissis, Kent Farrington and many others....

                                        Some of them have been with CWD for many years, long before they even became famous, like Rolf or McLain. Some recently joined the team, like Albert... I'm so excited because I just looooove Okidoki

                                        Meredith rides in Prestige (I believe she gets paid in addition to getting free saddles to use though), others ride in Antares or Devoucoux...

                                        Of course top riders get sponsored, but since they would get free saddles from any brand, they still get to pick which brand they ride in.... and even though they could pick the most expensive ones like Hermes, Tad Coffin or Butet, that almost never happens!

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