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Why do they come to me to die? - A selling vent

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  • Why do they come to me to die? - A selling vent

    I have my horse for sale. I have him listed as intermiadete to advanced. His "hotness" level is listed as a hot tamale.

    But yet I still have people calling me asking if he's appropriate for their 10 year old to hop on once in awhile if they buy him and jump.

    *head desk*

    Really? I was very up front with the person and said he's more than she can handle at anymore than a walk and trot and to maybe pop over a crossrail.

    Then changes his tune and says she'd just do dressage. This person has seen my horse go MULTIPLE times and while he's steady with ME I'm a grown woman. I've been riding longer than he's probably been married to this kids mom!

    He seemed undeterred so I told his trainer to talk to my trainer and then if they still think its a good idea I'll consider letting the kid hop on.

    Seriously.....why do people want to kill their kids? SPEND THE MONEY ON SOMETHING DEAD BROKE!

  • #2
    Originally posted by zahena View Post
    I have my horse for sale. I have him listed as intermiadete to advanced. His "hotness" level is listed as a hot tamale.

    But yet I still have people calling me asking if he's appropriate for their 10 year old to hop on once in awhile if they buy him and jump.

    *head desk*

    Really? I was very up front with the person and said he's more than she can handle at anymore than a walk and trot and to maybe pop over a crossrail.

    Then changes his tune and says she'd just do dressage. This person has seen my horse go MULTIPLE times and while he's steady with ME I'm a grown woman. I've been riding longer than he's probably been married to this kids mom!

    He seemed undeterred so I told his trainer to talk to my trainer and then if they still think its a good idea I'll consider letting the kid hop on.

    Seriously.....why do people want to kill their kids? SPEND THE MONEY ON SOMETHING DEAD BROKE!
    Feel better now?

    Seriously, I think some people either just don't read the ads or are just dumb.

    I've listed 2-3 yr olds for sale and make it very clear in the body of the ad they have not yet been started...and EVERY time some goober will as me how much training they have and if they are jumping, showing, whatever. RIDE THE AD, FOLKS!!

    Then there was the guy who (years ago) asked me to train a horse -- this beast was going to be the riding horse for his 10 yr old daughter to learn to ride on.

    Horse in question? A un-halter-broke, 8 yr. old stallion who had been used as nothing but a teaser. To get him to the farm they had to herd him into a stock trailer because he didn't lead AT ALL.

    Guy must have really hated his daughter....

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    • #3
      Originally posted by zahena View Post
      I have my horse for sale. I have him listed as intermiadete to advanced. His "hotness" level is listed as a hot tamale.

      But yet I still have people calling me asking if he's appropriate for their 10 year old to hop on once in awhile if they buy him and jump.

      *head desk*

      Really? I was very up front with the person and said he's more than she can handle at anymore than a walk and trot and to maybe pop over a crossrail.

      Then changes his tune and says she'd just do dressage. This person has seen my horse go MULTIPLE times and while he's steady with ME I'm a grown woman. I've been riding longer than he's probably been married to this kids mom!

      He seemed undeterred so I told his trainer to talk to my trainer and then if they still think its a good idea I'll consider letting the kid hop on.

      Seriously.....why do people want to kill their kids? SPEND THE MONEY ON SOMETHING DEAD BROKE!

      I'll just agree and say 'yes.' Been there, done that. Still marvel at it. All you can really do though is be up front; beyond that..?

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        #4
        It just seems like the more you tell them "no" the more determined they become!

        In all honesty, this would be ideal for my horse. They would NEVER get out there to ride him and all she'd do is poke around at a trot and he'd just be out on a pasture the rest of time. He already said they only go out once or twice a month.

        But really? I mean, my horse won't even canter if you can't handle it. No matter how hard you kick. He needs someone to balance him at least a little!

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        • #5
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          It just seems like the more you tell them "no" the more determined they become!
          Yes. This is 100% true. It's true, Ms. Buyer, I "don't know" you, but I do know that if you want to make payments on an $800 horse, you're not the good home I want for this horse. Sorry.

          I also think that these people look at me and my riding and figure "well, if YOU can ride the horse, I sure as heck can."

          People seldom remember that I am nearly 6' tall, very athletic and don't consider many falls off horses "serious". They are only "serious" in my memory if I had to go to the hospital. I did play rugby very competitively, not to mention the kickboxing and wrestling. I also have taken several years of riding lessons and not on trusty old schoolies, neither. Bottom line...just because I put up with (struggle with) a horse and am "a beginner" doesn't mean that said horse is "a beginner horse" and it SURE as heck doesn't mean your KID can ride it.

          Pretty sure it's a pride thing though. People don't like being told they can't/shouldn't do things. It makes them want to do it out of spite.
          Lifestyle coordinator for Zora, Spooky, Wolfgang and Warrior

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          • #6
            I had a green 4 year old that a lady wanted me to put her special needs/brain damaged 9 yr old child on after assuring me the horse was for her.

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            • #7
              At least they didn't offer to trade a hideous, bred, mare of undisclosed age ;-) Seriously, can people not read the "NO TRADE"?????????????

              Hope you find him a great home. I have a gelding for sale as well and it is not fun dealing with all the idiots.

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              • #8
                it is not fun dealing with all the idiots.
                Certain sales websites attract idiots. I have moved to only advertising on locally-owned and operated ones. Staying away from mass-marketing really weeds out the insanity. Not saying that's the issue, but a suggestion
                Lifestyle coordinator for Zora, Spooky, Wolfgang and Warrior

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                • #9
                  maybe your horse is just sooooo puuuurrrdy!!! buyer MUST have it for his daughter? People generally seem to get stupider around things that are attractive to them.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by KateKat View Post
                    maybe your horse is just sooooo puuuurrrdy!!! buyer MUST have it for his daughter? People generally seem to get stupider around things that are attractive to them.

                    You know, I do say his good looks will sell him. He's very pretty. And he's a nice mover. But he's a handful.

                    Honestly I think they may just want him for yard art.

                    He did say that she was timid and she knew her limits so that you have to appreciate. Especially in a 10 year old. I had one girl not know her diagnols try him and he just putzed around the arena with the reins on the buckle and hop over whatever she looked at but only a trot. She kicked him for canter and I could see him laugh at her. LOL!

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Eddy's Mom View Post
                      At least they didn't offer to trade a hideous, bred, mare of undisclosed age ;-) Seriously, can people not read the "NO TRADE"?????????????

                      Hope you find him a great home. I have a gelding for sale as well and it is not fun dealing with all the idiots.
                      Oh I got that! Someone offered me a trade for my 16.1 HH TB for a 13.1 HH Welsh pony!!!

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                      • #12
                        I hear you!



                        As you know, I sympathize. I'm most amused by the walking horse broodmares.. People call me, and the conversation goes something like this:

                        Person: When was the last time she was ridden?

                        Me: Over a year ago. She has been used mostly as a broodmare. I would recommend sending her to a trainer to get going again.

                        Person: Would I be able to ride her if I come see her?

                        Me: No, I wouldnt recommend that. She is greenbroke at best.

                        Person: Can I just ride her around the field a few times?

                        Me: Did you see where I put temperament as a 7, advanced rider required, and that she hasnt been ridden in over a year? No, I wouldnt think you'll be able to saddle her up and take her out on the trail. That seems life threatening.


                        Etc etc


                        After the ad clearly states that mare in question has been mostly a broodmare, and while having been ridden in the past, its definitely not her forte.

                        My personal favorite, however, was the lady calling to ask if mare would be appropriate for her 80 yr old handicapped brother to trail ride. Um, no.

                        And, of course, LOTS of beginners coming to try my horses that I clearly state require intermediate riders. Luckily, my guys are tolerant and it hasnt ended in a hospital visit. People VASTLY over estimate their riding ability. If you cannot post consistently all the way around the arena once, you're not even close to "intermediate rider".
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by smilton View Post
                          I had a green 4 year old that a lady wanted me to put her special needs/brain damaged 9 yr old child on after assuring me the horse was for her.
                          Huh. She was a real safety nazi, eh? Hope the brain damage wasn't from mom's judgement...
                          Airborne? Oh. Yes, he can take a joke. Once. After that, the joke's on you.

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                            #14
                            I love it when they are already handicapped. And they want to buy something clearly not handicapped friendly. Or beginner friendly. Antoher round you do have to wonder if its their fault.

                            How about the lady who showed up in a neckbrace? At least she didn't ride. Though she did cackle when my horse refused to stop at the canter. That was awesomeness.

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                            • #15
                              [QUOTE=zahena;4503474] How about the lady who showed up in a neckbrace? QUOTE]


                              Soooooo not a good sign!
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                              Keller Williams Realtors

                              TexasEquestrianProperties.com
                              Email Me for Horse Property!

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                              • #16
                                Originally posted by zahena View Post
                                Seriously.....why do people want to kill their kids? SPEND THE MONEY ON SOMETHING DEAD BROKE!
                                I agree, this never ceases to amaze me.

                                A couple of years ago my mother had a kid-safe gelding in his late teens for sale. Teenage girl called to ask about him, she and her parents were horse shopping, since the green broke 3 year old they'd bought for her sent her to the ER on a stretcher at a Pony Club rally. I explained that horse was good natured, easy going, reliable WTC in an arena or out in the open, but probably not athletic enough to take her much farther than D-2. Girl was clearly very shaken, not sure if she ever wanted to jump again, just wanted to sit on something that wouldn't kill her. Mom sounded on board with the idea, and we set up a time for her to come see him.

                                Mom calls back the next day, completely irate that no one told her the horse was in his late teens (it was in the ad, and the daughter knew), and she couldn't possibly buy something that old, because she wanted the girls much younger half-sister to learn to ride on it, too, and for it to be in shape for little sis to ponyclub when she was a teenager. She would not be looking at any horses older than 5, for this reason.

                                Poor kid, you'd think mom would have learned her lesson the first time around, but no, she wants another shot at breaking the kids neck.

                                Some people, sheesh.
                                "In order to really enjoy a dog, one doesn’t merely train him to be semi-human. The point of it is to open oneself to the possibility of becoming part dog."
                                -Edward Hoagland

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                                  #17
                                  There's a horse on our circuit in his 30's still showing in the 2'6" division and winning. Okay, not consistently winning but doing well. He does look older, but he's about as sweet and broke as they come.

                                  Parents are morons. I had one lady come with a ring on her finger the size of a doorknob. My horse was listed at $2500. Why on EARTH would you not buy something decent? Obviously you have the money!

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                                  • #18
                                    I'm always amazed at the number of people looking for a fresh off track horse for their darling pumpkin.

                                    I mean, my mom and I made that mistake, and I spent most of my teen years getting thrown off onto my head because of it (which explains a lot about me).

                                    But then when you explain that you've been there/done that, and why it's a horrible idea, and very easy step by step instructions for how to break into horse ownership without getting hurt, they go out and do it anyway (and damnit, if you won't enable them, they'll find someone else who will.)
                                    "smile a lot can let us ride happy,it is good thing"

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                                    • #19
                                      It's an inverse equation. The less experience the rider/buyer, the more unsuitable the horse they look at will be.

                                      The longer they've ridden and the more experienced and generally the older they get, the more they look for something quiet and sane.

                                      Maybe that's the problem. All the people who know how to ride take the suitable horses. Yeah, that's it! Common sense has nothing to do with it!

                                      But have to agree with you whole-heartedly - why do parents seem to hate their children!?!
                                      The truth is always in the middle.

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                                      • #20
                                        Regarding the PCer on the 3 yr old, around here a PC mount must be 5 or older. Maybe it's just a regional rule?

                                        I have been frustrated by this too. Back in my PC days, I had a QH type appy packer who I evented until I moved up to prelim and had to sell because it was clearly a stretch for him, and I was ready to take on an upper level prospect. I had qualified for PC Natn'l in KY, so told everyone interested that he wouldn't be sold or vetted until after the competition. He was solid, unflappable, not fancy but always scored well in dressage because he was perfectly obedient and dead-on accurate. In any case, the perfect PC horse up to C-3 or B level. 12 years old.

                                        Anyway, a C-1 PC kid came and tried him and LOVED him. She was nervous about jumping from her previous mount, and he gave her all sorts of confidence. It turned out that the kid had qualified for PC Natn'ls in tetrathalon, but had decided not to go because she didn't want to jump on a borrowed horse. They asked if since he was going anyway, if she could jump him if she went. We said yes, since it seemed like a sure sale-- the kid was smitten. Well anyway, he put in perfect clear rounds for her (as he would have for a monkey riding him backwards). After we had been home for a week or two, my mom called to see when they wanted to vet him.

                                        Mom said, oh we're really sorry, but DD just fell in LOVE with this beautiful 5 yo OTTB, and he was cheaper so we bought him instead. Three months later beautiful OTTB broke her arm badly and she quit riding altogether. Sigh.......

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