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  • #61
    Originally posted by Weatherford View Post
    Don't laugh - this has been proven to work for sex offenders, including rapists and other violent criminals. Has to do with testosterone production.
    Maybe they could just give him some regumate?

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    • #62
      That is really sick. What has this world come to?

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      • #63
        Yep it's us liberals always letting those child rapists go. It could never be that there isn't enough evidence or someone is proven to be lying so no one can convist them because the judge is upholding our "american" system that says we won't, no I'm sorry CAN'T, convict if there is resonable doubt. Nope never. Us liberals just want those perverts on the street.
        do a search on some of the rulings in MA., and VT. I am not kidding about this. You need to live in New England to believe this. They usually don't take the level three's off of the street until they kill someone. AND, there ARE liberal judges appointed by Democrats.
        Humans don’t mind duress, in fact they thrive on it. What they mind is not feeling necessary. –Sebastian Junger

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        • #64
          Originally posted by spina View Post
          Apparently you're not from this country. In the USA, one is considered innocent until proven guilty in a court of law by a jury of your peers - not by a bunch of goofs on a bulletin board throwing rumors about.
          Otherwise one would run the risk of coming across like an idiot.
          What's your issue? I read about this IN THE BOSTON GLOBE which quotes witnesses. I think it's YOU who are "coming across like an idiot."
          I realize that I'm generalizing here, but as is often the case when I generalize, I don't care. ~ Dave Barry

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          • #65
            I think the point is that, while this SEEMS to be pretty conclusive, it is NOT UNKNOWN (understatement) for perfectly innocent people to be "framed"- accused (and even charged) with sex crimes.

            Anyone who has been close to one of these false accusations, and has seen the damage it can do, tends to be a bit more cautious about jumping to conclusions.
            Last edited by Janet; Mar. 30, 2007, 11:38 AM.
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            • #66
              Originally posted by Janet View Post
              Anyone who has been closed to one of these false accusations, and has seen the damage it can do, tends to be a bit more cautious about jumping to conclusions.
              I completely agree with this. However, having been 'close' to situations like this, when these accusations are claimed to be 'false' and true sexual predator's are allowed to run their 'normal' life, the results are often far more damaging.

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              • #67
                Well, clearly, people around him were nice enough to ignore rumors and gave him the benefit of the doubt in the past and I'm sure some of those very people are going to have to, sadly, stare at nude pictures of their children, exhibited in court.

                While there are always two sides to every story, there is also always some truth to every rumor. This kinda crap -- you just can't make up.

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                  #68
                  Granted, I haven't actually seen them, but it seems to me that with all those pictures police found on his computer(s) - and yes, I suppose someone else COULD have put them there to frame him - that at the very least he is guilty of being a slime and someone I would want to stay away from.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Bogey2 View Post
                    do a search on some of the rulings in MA., and VT. I am not kidding about this. You need to live in New England to believe this. They usually don't take the level three's off of the street until they kill someone. AND, there ARE liberal judges appointed by Democrats.
                    There are also conservative judges appointed by Republicans...I'm not sure I see your point. Is it your position that it is the Democrats are to blame for the trainer molesting his students? That's kind of an awkward sideways leap don't you think? And why oh why do you feel the need to drag liberal-bashing politics into a discussion about an as-yet-to-be-convicted criminal?
                    "Are you yawning? You don't ride well enough to yawn. I can yawn, because I ride better than you. Meredith Michael Beerbaum can yawn. But you? Not so much..."
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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Anyplace Farm View Post
                      Well, clearly, people around him were nice enough to ignore rumors and gave him the benefit of the doubt in the past and I'm sure some of those very people are going to have to, sadly, stare at nude pictures of their children, exhibited in court.

                      While there are always two sides to every story, there is also always some truth to every rumor. This kinda crap -- you just can't make up.
                      My Question to those nice people : Would you ignore rumors of a teacher in your child’s school like these? If your child was sitting in a classroom at 13 years old and his/her Math teacher was rumored over several years to be a person who slept around with his/her students., would they have allowed their child to remain in that class? What about their Swim coach or a football coach???? Parents will rip their kids out of a classroom faster then the speed of light based on such rumors.. But it never seems to send up signals when it's their kids riding Instructor / Trainer. Now I know I am setting myself up for some instant Flames, but could it be our sport attracts wealthy people who just assume that people who are taking care of their children would never dream of hurting their child simply because an employee wouldn't want to jeopardize their big paychecks.. or that they may be rich and powerful and no one would ever mess with their kids. Is there a degree of arrogance among the newly rich and powerful that leads them to believe their children are insulated from such things simple because they are who they are? Just a question not an indictment of those who are economically and socially blessed.

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                      • #71
                        I don't think this guy was at that level as a trainer....he was living in a trailer or with his mother

                        SNL, you just have to live in New England to appreciate what goes on here. There is a guy in VT who did no jail time for molesting a kid for years...because the judge wanted him to get help instead. They just picked up a level three in the next town over from me....downloading porn at the library and satring at kids from a scool. Another couple of level three's murdered young vulnerable women...one was using a bathroom at a Burger King, the other one broke down. I am serious, you need to do some searches...just plug in molester and VT and see what comes up.
                        I am not going to argue the politics, I am just telling you what happens here, and it is documented.
                        Humans don’t mind duress, in fact they thrive on it. What they mind is not feeling necessary. –Sebastian Junger

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                        • #72
                          Amen!

                          Originally posted by spina View Post
                          Apparently you're not from this country. In the USA, one is considered innocent until proven guilty in a court of law by a jury of your peers - not by a bunch of goofs on a bulletin board throwing rumors about.
                          Otherwise one would run the risk of coming across like an idiot.
                          Originally posted by Anyplace Farm View Post
                          Well, there is also that very American right of freedom of speech.
                          and again, I say ....... Amen!
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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by Anyplace Farm View Post
                            Oh, that dude is headed to be someone's bitch for sure.
                            Yeah...without any lubricant!
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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by Weatherford View Post
                              Don't laugh - this has been proven to work for sex offenders, including rapists and other violent criminals. Has to do with testosterone production.
                              Wait... can people really do this? In the United States? There aren't people yelling an screaming "inhumane!"

                              Personally, and I'm sure some people will be disgusted with me, but I think if they did castrate them, it would deter anyone thinking about molesting a child, and greatly decrease the number of repeat-offenders.

                              And, if the guy keeps his pants on, no one will ever know.

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by Bogey2 View Post
                                I don't think this guy was at that level as a trainer....he was living in a trailer or with his mother
                                He was living with his mother, which, at his age, is worse than living in a trailer. Hey, don't be knockin' the double-wide dwellers. Why, even the Governor of Arkansas (apres Clinton) lived in one while they restored the mansion. That damn thing was stylin'.

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                                • #76
                                  Originally posted by Eventer13 View Post
                                  Wait... can people really do this? In the United States? There aren't people yelling an screaming "inhumane!"

                                  Personally, and I'm sure some people will be disgusted with me, but I think if they did castrate them, it would deter anyone thinking about molesting a child, and greatly decrease the number of repeat-offenders.

                                  And, if the guy keeps his pants on, no one will ever know.
                                  Actually, this has been tried and proven ineffective as a deterant. Kind of like the death penalty hasn't worked out as a deterant to murder.
                                  "Are you yawning? You don't ride well enough to yawn. I can yawn, because I ride better than you. Meredith Michael Beerbaum can yawn. But you? Not so much..."
                                  -George Morris

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                                  • #77
                                    Originally posted by SaturdayNightLive View Post
                                    Actually, this has been tried and proven ineffective as a deterant. Kind of like the death penalty hasn't worked out as a deterant to murder.
                                    Yeah, a guy can still operate a camera without his balls.

                                    "If you have the time, spend it. If you have a hand, lend it. If you have the money, give it. If you have a heart, share it." by me

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                                    • #78
                                      The dead can't kill, operate a camera, molest a child or rape a woman, They're dead, The ultimate deterant.

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                                      • #79
                                        A quote from President Andrew Shepherd:

                                        America isn't easy. America is advanced citizenship. You gotta want it bad, 'cause it's gonna put up a fight. It's gonna say 'You want free speech? Let's see you acknowledge a man whose words make your blood boil, who's standing center stage and advocating at the top of his lungs that which you would spend a lifetime opposing at the top of yours.' You want to claim this land as the land of the free? Then the symbol of your country can't just be a flag; the symbol also has to be one of its citizens exercising his right to burn that flag in protest. Show me that, defend that, celebrate that in your classrooms. Then, you can stand up and sing about the "land of the free."

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                                        • #80
                                          Originally posted by Bogey2 View Post
                                          By Michael Levenson and April Simpson, Globe Staff | March 29, 2007

                                          "Most people get involved in horses because it's a good, clean, wholesome sport," Larrivee said.

                                          Somebody clearly lives under a rock!

                                          The horse world attracts plenty of criminals and weirdos. When I was a teenager, I boarded at a barn that took in a trainer charged with statutory rape. He'd lost his own farm (had to sell b/c clients fled in droves), so the BO's took him in, along with a co-conspirator, half a dozen horses, and the two or three clients that stood by him.

                                          Needless to say, my own trainer was APPALLED and protested loudly. Didn't change anything; the BO's believed in the perp's innocence, despite the fact that there was video evidence! So an accused rapist was allowed free access to the barn and its droves of young girls while he awaited trial.

                                          My trainer and all the parents made sure that none of us kids were ever at the barn alone, and I'm fairly certain my trainer had a "come to Jesus" meeting with the perp...knowing her, it was probably along the lines of, "You so much as look at my girls, and I will castrate you myself." I remember hiding in a stall whenever the perp walked through our section of the barn. It was a dicey month or two before the guy was convicted and sent to jail for 8-12 years. I'm pretty sure he did all of it, since his victim's parents showed up for every single parole hearing.

                                          But, yeah...whoever thinks riding is a "good, clean, and wholesome sport" obviously lives on another planet.

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