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    Recommend a barn for layover near Raeford, NC in December?

    Need to layover in Raeford, NC the first week in December for a couple of days. Can anyone recommend a barn?
    "ronnie was the gifted one, victor was the brilliant intellect, and i [GM], well, i am the plodder."
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    REFUGIO FARM: Off Youngs Road (Cathleen Way) Southern Pines. Call for information: Courtney Jordan 910-692-7152 or Melissa Adams 910-944-0585.

    About 20 minutes from Raeford-Carolina Horse Park.

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      http://horsemotel.com/

      If the prior poster's reference doesn't work you might want to check out this site. I've used this before several times with great results.
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      • #4
        What is it most important that you be near? I am in Southern Pines and I have stalls That is 20+ minutes from Raeford.

        There is a Western barn with a top trainer and good facilities located 20+ minutes on the other side of Raeford, in Parkton, NC. That barn is very close to I 95, if you want to stay near there.
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          #5
          Actually I'm planning to take one to the Horse Park that week to the A show that Andrew Ellis is hosting. I've got to get him measured and at this point not planning on showing him so I don't want to spend $165 for a stall for one or at most two nights. Thanks for the help!
          "ronnie was the gifted one, victor was the brilliant intellect, and i [GM], well, i am the plodder."

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            I thought you had to show if you were getting one measured. Or was that an old rule, instituted to prove that the pony was sound enough to show and had not been cut so short that it was crippled... (Which is what had been happening.) [Not saying you would, of course -- this is the generic reasoning behind the rule when it was passed.]

            I also cannot believe that he is charging $165 for a stall!!!! OUTRAGEOUS!~
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            • #7
              I believe the pony has to be entered in a class but doesn't actually have to show. You can scratch after the measurement, IIRC.

              I was going to suggest the horsepark but I guess that's what you're trying to avoid
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                #8
                has to be entered but doesn't have to show. Horse is trotted for soundness before it will be approved for a card. This one's an easy measure so not much prep at all.
                Honestly I'd show this one but money is tight and I don't want to body clip him... he freezes if he's clipped even if he's blanketed so I try to let him stay fuzzy.
                "ronnie was the gifted one, victor was the brilliant intellect, and i [GM], well, i am the plodder."

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                  Originally posted by Lord Helpus View Post
                  I thought you had to show if you were getting one measured. Or was that an old rule, instituted to prove that the pony was sound enough to show and had not been cut so short that it was crippled... (Which is what had been happening.) [Not saying you would, of course -- this is the generic reasoning behind the rule when it was passed.]

                  I also cannot believe that he is charging $165 for a stall!!!! OUTRAGEOUS!~
                  I was planning on going to this show ... until I saw $165 for a stall... and it is only A rated!!
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                    Pam (Lordhelpus)

                    I feel compelled to respond to your claims that charging $165 for a stall for a week is "outrageous". I stand firmly behind what the Carolina Horse Park charges. I have done a comprehensive spreed sheet that compares stall fee's, entry fee's, and other charges around the country at USEF "A" competitions. I have set the stall fee's and other showing fee's as an average of 10% lower than the national average. For example the show I just managed in Houston Texas had a stall fee of $200 for the week. It was also an "A" competition, but justifies a higher fee structure because of a large distribution of jumper monies and a much costlier show to run. I would also like to let you know that the Carolina Horse Park is totally Non-Profit, and serves many more community purposes beyond the horse shows. We are working hard to invest what comes into the park right back into it, so that people like your self have a wonderful place to show in your own backyard. I would also like to let you know that our stalls are more spacious than anywhere else I have been. We have built these barns ourselves with heavy duty mats in every stall so that we reduce the shavings used by almost 40%. This helps the environment and additionally keeps your overall costs at the CHP lower. I will stake my reputation that these are the best stalls in america at any publically utilized horse park. Karen O'Connor recently said "the CHP stalls are the nicest she has seen except for the ones in Hong Kong at the Olympics". With that said I hope that if you have any questions in the future about what we charge you give me a ring, and I will be glad to schedule a tour of our facilities for you to see. I believe that we are building something wonderful here, and part of that process involves positive feedback from professionals like your self. Hopefully you will join soon at the Park for one of our upcoming events.

                    Andrew Ellis, Operations Manager
                    www.carolinahorsepark.com
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                      Northstarequine.com

                      They have a great layover barn.. Nice big stalls.

                      Also they come with a very awesome vet owner, and a brand new clinic next door!
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                        Originally posted by Equitalk View Post
                        Pam (Lordhelpus)

                        I feel compelled to respond to your claims that charging $165 for a stall for a week is "outrageous". I stand firmly behind what the Carolina Horse Park charges. I have done a comprehensive spreed sheet that compares stall fee's, entry fee's, and other charges around the country at USEF "A" competitions. I have set the stall fee's and other showing fee's as an average of 10% lower than the national average. For example the show I just managed in Houston Texas had a stall fee of $200 for the week. It was also an "A" competition, but justifies a higher fee structure because of a large distribution of jumper monies and a much costlier show to run. I would also like to let you know that the Carolina Horse Park is totally Non-Profit, and serves many more community purposes beyond the horse shows. We are working hard to invest what comes into the park right back into it, so that people like your self have a wonderful place to show in your own backyard. I would also like to let you know that our stalls are more spacious than anywhere else I have been. We have built these barns ourselves with heavy duty mats in every stall so that we reduce the shavings used by almost 40%. This helps the environment and additionally keeps your overall costs at the CHP lower. I will stake my reputation that these are the best stalls in america at any publically utilized horse park. Karen O'Connor recently said "the CHP stalls are the nicest she has seen except for the ones in Hong Kong at the Olympics". With that said I hope that if you have any questions in the future about what we charge you give me a ring, and I will be glad to schedule a tour of our facilities for you to see. I believe that we are building something wonderful here, and part of that process involves positive feedback from professionals like your self. Hopefully you will join soon at the Park for one of our upcoming events.

                        Andrew Ellis, Operations Manager
                        www.carolinahorsepark.com
                        I do appreciate the fact that you are building/having better facilities for your horse showing clients. For us who only come in for a night or two, $165 is alot. I know this has been beaten like a dead horse, but weekend rates are something that should be greatly thought about. I know that I would horse show more often if it was an option.
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                        • #13
                          Nothing useful to add to the original question, but I am curious as to why places like CHP can't offer either a $165 for the entire show, or $35 a night like they are offering for the starter horse trial. Also, why do eventers get the option of a cheaper stall with a muck deposit, but hunters aren't offered the same?

                          I guess it's a moot point anyway as i'll probably never afford an A show because of the non stall fees. I just can't justify paying a hefty fee for something i'm not using.

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                            IMO - most places will do daily stall rates only if they know they will have free stalls. My guess is that they know with the eventers that they will not use up all their stalls and can therefore offer the daily rate.

                            It would be unfair to offer a daily rate and then sell out on the weekly rate. Where does that leave the daily stall customer?

                            I have one show grounds that we will sell out of stalls on the weekly rate. If we have cancellations and therefore have space available we will offer a weekend rate if asked. But it is not published for the simple fact that we don't really have the space available for daily stalls.

                            I would tend to guess that is the same for many other venues with limited permanent stabling.

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                              May call Andrew and see if he's willing to do a 1 night stall. Otherwise I may hold off for Aiken in January or February. This one's sticking 15.3 1/2 right now with long feet so no major concerns
                              "ronnie was the gifted one, victor was the brilliant intellect, and i [GM], well, i am the plodder."

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                                Hi guys,
                                I wish we could do day or weekend stalls during our "a" shows. Due to the prize money requirement and the need to hire adequate staff and equipment force us to stand firm on this pricing for our "a" shows. By covering our costs on the "a" shows we are able to offer many other non-usef events that are affordable like at the starter horse trial or thanksgiving weekend classic. In fact the $1000 non recognized hunter classic has an entry fee of only $75 and a very low weekend stall rate over thanksgiving weekend. So unfortunately some people just may not be able to afford to show at our "a" shows, but hopefully you will find on our schedule a wide variety of affordable and interesting events. I wish I had a better answer, but stall fee structure is an industry wide problem. The best way to fight it is to get involved with USHJA and participate in governance issues like money requirements at usef "a" shows. I guess my other main point here is I think it is very tacky for a local professional to bad mouth me and the CHP, when I found out her goal was to attract layover business at her farm and take it away from a non profit. I think that's shady. If you want business, then stand up and build it on your own without bad mouthing someone elses venture behind the curtain of a web site. I just don't understand why some people don't see the benefit of having a local facility in your own back yard that offers a wide variety of equine activities.
                                equitalk@aol.com

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                                • #17
                                  Andrew,
                                  What is the schedule for the Classic? It looks like fun and there is a lot of local interest.
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                                  • #18
                                    Are you still looking for stabling? If so pm me.

                                    Honestly, I use to live in SP and right down the street from the horse park.Having moved to florida I miss that area all together. Between having the horse park, harness track and Raleigh so close, I think we only really "traveled" to go to some championships. I moved to fl and would take SP over wellington anyday (no offense wellington is nice too..). We certainly do appreciate all the hard work that has gone into building the park but for some of us on a tighter budget we have to find other ways to still participate!
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                                      #19
                                      Andrew,
                                      I think that your prices are right in line with A show prices and not unreasonable but I just can't afford to pay that to stay there for a few hours. Everyone that I've heard speak of the CHP has been extremely complimentary towards the facility. Always that it is just beautiful. You're not quite in my backyard but I suppose a 5-6 hour trip isn't too bad... Aiken is 4!

                                      NorthStar is a pretty place but 45 minutes away from Horse Park and on the wrong side of town. Would rather be west of the horse park since that's where I'm coming from.
                                      "ronnie was the gifted one, victor was the brilliant intellect, and i [GM], well, i am the plodder."

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                                      • #20
                                        I am not seeing any information on the show you mentioned on your calendar on the CHP website..... see quote below.... am I missing it somewhere?

                                        "In fact the $1000 non recognized hunter classic has an entry fee of only $75 and a very low weekend stall rate over thanksgiving weekend."
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