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  • Carrying a crop/bat.....

    I have a very lazy, not-an-over-achiever gelding. He recently got his hocks done for the first time, so he's feeling like a whole new man. He is still lazy but his work ethic about moving forward is much improved. Several people have told me I need to try riding him without a crop now that he is going better. The line I'm hearing is "I like show hunters look so much better without a crop". I've heard this from more than one person. Does anyone else have this theory?
    Dear life, please send grapes. Sincerely, I prefer wine over lemonade.

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    Not that theory in particular, but many people subscribe to the theory that one should ALWAYS carry a crop just in case you need it. I tend to agree. My old horse didn't need one but I carried it just in case he was naughty and I did use it a few times. My new horse DOES need one, so it's easier to remember to bring it along
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    • #3
      I always try to carry one, you never know when you'll need it. I'd rather have it and not use it than need it and not have it.
      To be loved by a horse, or by any animal, should fill us with awe-
      for we have not deserved it.
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      • #4
        I subscribe to the school of thought that says to ALWAYS carry one, but I admit I do jumpers not hunters.
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        • #5
          I was once told by a rather famous rider that "your crop and spurs are like your underwear, you should never leave home without them" ;-)
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          • #6
            I too always carry one & believe you never know when you may need it! Only once have I been caught without one & wouldn't you know it, my saintly mare who never ever stopped, piled on the binders like there was no tomorrow & I had nothing but the flat of my hand to get her going again! yeah, THAT worked well!
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            • #7
              My old trainer said when I came down to the ring without a crop, "Would you go into war without a weapon?"

              I don't generally ever need one with my horse, but I do try to carry one every time, because the one time I need it will be when I'm empty-handed... murphy's law!
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              • #8
                Originally posted by SarahandSam View Post
                My old trainer said when I came down to the ring without a crop, "Would you go into war without a weapon?"

                I don't generally ever need one with my horse, but I do try to carry one every time, because the one time I need it will be when I'm empty-handed... murphy's law!
                My trainer saids that only a little different phrased... "Never go to war without your weapon!"
                I always have my crop and spurs. At some shows i will drop the crop for the over fence stuff because my horse does get excited and goes better without one, but i definitly need my spurs!

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                • #9
                  I drop the spurs for home, but some shows I do need them. When we went to our first event I was so happy I had both my crop and spurs, I had them at the fences I needed them.
                  To be loved by a horse, or by any animal, should fill us with awe-
                  for we have not deserved it.
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                  • #10
                    Add me to the group that was taught you always carry your crop.

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                    • #11
                      Not sure what "I like a hunter without a crop" means, but as far as competition I don't think any one would penalize you in any way for carrying a bat. Using it in the ring, not so much.
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                      • #12
                        If the horse has a stop in it, how embarrassing to be caught without a weapon! I never leave the barn without a crop for the pony. I flat the jumper with a crop but I usually ditch it for jumping because I get a more even feel without a crop in my hand and I don't really need it (I always jump him in spurs). I can see where it makes a prettier picture without a crop but gosh darn it you won't have a picture if you can't get the horse moving!

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                        • #13
                          My previous instructor pretty much had a rule, "you come to class, you bring a crop." If the horse was moving well and it became obvious you didn't need it, you could drop the crop but if the horse wasn't moving well and you needed a little extra oomph, it was always a hassle to stop and find someone with an extra crop for you to use.
                          The Trials and Jubilations of a Twenty-Something Re-rider
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                          • #14
                            I am definitely of the school of thought that proper turnout requires a stick. I was told, "if you always carry a crop, you'll never need one" On any horse in the show ring I have a crop, and i actually think it completes the turnout.
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                            • #15
                              I'm in the always carry a crop and wear your spurs crowd.

                              Imagine my chagrin with the new horse that is soo sensitive to the crop that if I'm carrying it and move my finger a tad, he scoots off. The worst part is that he needs a crop, but then he gets super worried about it.
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                              • #16
                                I have one horse I always ride with a crop and a second one who I never ride with a crop. However, I do believe that it's smart to always carry one in case you need it. I keep one handy with my second horse, but because she's a little more sensitive and my leg is usually enough to keep her going forward, I don't use it. That may change as we get further along with our training, but for now, it works out OK.
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                                • #17
                                  The only times I notice crops are when the rider is having difficulty and isn't carrying one. They are pretty useless sitting back at the barn.
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                                  • #18
                                    slightly off topic

                                    Apologies in advance for being slightly off topic. I am leasing a horse and the owner is pretty adamant about not carrying a crop when riding. Horse has a little habit of slowing/stopping when he decides he is done (particularly on the right lead). Any suggestions for how to help owner understand that when carrying the crop and using only when needed is the right thing? The concern is that if you do provide correction with the crop he get upset.

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                                      Originally posted by mikali View Post
                                      I was once told by a rather famous rider that "your crop and spurs are like your underwear, you should never leave home without them" ;-)
                                      lmao!!! love that quote!!

                                      hhhmmmm....interesting......thanks for the input everyone I definitely need spurs, if I didn't have them I would need an oxygen tank to get my horse around. I haven't actually had to use a crop - its more of a threat to this guy (and its not that he's bad, just lazy). If I wiggle it or turn my hand enough he can see it, I can get the reaction I want. The theory of "having it in case you need it " is a strong argument. I've had days where I've dropped it in the middle of the course not needing.
                                      Dear life, please send grapes. Sincerely, I prefer wine over lemonade.

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                                      • #20
                                        I always say I need "tools" or refer to them as "weapons of mass Destruction". I find the crop is more effective for my horse than spurs plus I don't want to dig into his sides accidently when I jump since I am new to jumping and he is too and tends to be a way over achiever.

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