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  • shark fins and saddles

    The gelding has shark fin withers. He measures 17.2 at the withers. His middle back is 16.2. He has a custom saddle, and it fits like a glove. BUT at the end of my ride, it has always relocated. It slides back a couple of inches. The girth is tight enough, it just can't seem to withstand the force of gravity. The gelding doesn't mind... he is just as happy at the start of the ride and the end of the ride... but I want it to stay where it belongs. Is there anything I can do short of buying a breastplate? I have tried one of those sticky black pads under my saddle pad, but it really didn't make a difference.
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  • #2
    What's wrong with a breastplate? That's the exact problem they're designed to fix...


    • #3
      Are you sure that the saddle is ending up too far back? A couple of inches sure doesn't sound like anything to worry about. Many people tend to place the saddle too far forward on a horse's withers to start with and a correctly fitted saddle will often slide back a little. If you're sure that's not the case then you could try a breastplate (Nunn Finer and some of the other eventing-type brands have nice 5-point breastplates that hold more securely than the typical h/j ones). But I'd sure want to make sure that I wasn't holding the saddle in a place that it shouldn't be.

      FWIW, I have a TB with pretty prominent withers who tends to "lose" his [custom] saddle a little too....even more so when we're jumping big jumps where he really has to use his back. It drives me crazy, but multiple saddle fitters have assured me that where the saddle ends up is where it should end up. (I'm definitely one of those people who WANTS to put the saddle too far forward!)
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      • #4
        As PWNjumper said - are you sure it's ending up too far back?

        most of the time I see a saddle ending up farther back than where it started, it's ending up where it should have started out to begin with.

        Too many people put the saddle too far forward. It gets especially compounded if the saddle position of the horse is farther back than is typical - it can be very deceiving to your eye.

        Really need pictures
        The CoTH CYA - please consult w/your veterinarian under any and all circumstances. - ET


        • #5
          I understand what you mean.

          I just got a new saddle ( a Richard Castelow)
          fitted for sharky and he has also got prominent muscle's with the dip spot.

          I had to buy a Geleeze no slip pad in clear. The black pad your talking about is nothing like this. I bought the thin one of the clear Geleeze and it works awesome.
          True donot put over the scapula but have the fitter show you .

          I had the Richard show me for sure --
          Until I bought the Geleeze it would creep back 2inches after each class.


          • #6
            You are probably fighting physics if you want the saddle to stay where it's put when your horse has four inches of sloping withers for it to slide back. If it doesn't bother your horse, it's probably sitting right where it wants to sit and is nothing to worry about. In fact, depending on how it is sitting, if you try to artificially force it to stay in place with a breastplate, since you would be fighting your horse's conformation, you could cause a problem.

            My horse's saddle always ends up "too far back" as well as a function of the slope of his wither and size of his shoulder. "Too far back" on another horse happens to be just perfect for him.
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            • Original Poster

              Well I've always been really annoyed by the saddle too far forward phenomenon, so I don't think I'm starting too far forward... though maybe for his body type I am. So no, I'm not sure it's too far back It just looks really awkward to me. He's happy though, and even when the saddle slides back, it still fits...no excessive pressure anywhere...so I guess I'll just let him be.

              He really doesn't like the sticky saddle pads...and maybe thats because the "normal" spot for other horses is uncomfortable for him, and the sticky pad keeps the saddle there...

              I'll just try to be open minded about this one for a little while.
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              • #8
                I'd love a picture, 1 each of the nekked horse, where you put the saddle, and where the saddle ends up.

                Until I had a horse with a far-back saddle position, I didn't, couldn't, appreciate just how far back a saddle has to be sometimes

                check out how far back the girth is on this horse, my 'far back saddle position" horse
                The CoTH CYA - please consult w/your veterinarian under any and all circumstances. - ET