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  • What do you pay for training board?

    What do you pay for training and what for board (meaning, I am curious of the breakdown. Are you paying $800/month, $400 goes to board $400 to training, for example) and what does that get you? How many rides/lessons/per week, does it include showing, etc, etc. Also, could you include your general area, considering that costs vary so much due to location? Thanks, I am trying to decide what is normal and what is exceptional.
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    Horse just came home. Was in training board in SW Mass.

    $800/mo included 3 rides a week, grooming, trimming f/shows, mane pulled, mucking, bedding, t/o, feed, hay, blanket changes and worming.
    Last edited by Sansena; Sep. 18, 2009, 05:28 PM. Reason: correction

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    • #3
      Well, there are distinct advantages to moving to Where People Are Poor And There Is No "A" Circuit: I currently pay $175 for pasture board and $225 for training (trainer is an excellent young eventer). LOL, yes, New Englanders, that's per month not per day! This is for: feeding my custom feed 2x/day (I provide feed), free choice hay, light grooming, and 3 rides a week. 3 rides is PERFECT for my baby greenie who is just being started under saddle - he's an anxious pleaser and an overthinker & stays much more relaxed if given a day off to process things in between rides.

      Showing, full grooming, clipping, braiding, hauling, etc. are not included; when Q is ready to go trot out somewhere, we'll be expected to split those costs with trainer's other clients.

      Vbunny, if you haven't figured it out yet, this is INSANELY low.
      "The standard you walk by is the standard you accept."--Lt. Gen. David Morrison, Austalian Army Chief

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      • #4
        I usually charge board + $300 (pr mo training fee).

        Board is either (pasture- $250, partial- $350, full- $450).

        This gets you whatever board you choose, plus 5 rides a wk. Mane pulling, bathing, grooming, pictures/videos. I will communicate with the owner as MUCH as they like!!! I have no problem with that at all (some people never hear from their trainers, but maybe once a month, lol).

        OR

        For the $300 training fee per month, this can be broken down to rides/lessons.. I will do 1 groundwork day, 2 ME riding days, and 1 lesson (for the owner) per wk.

        I do the same thing for consignment horses, but add in the advertising fee (minimal as possible, depending on the price of the horse, quality of the horse, and how fast the owner wants them gone, or if they want to put them on the market, while they are in training, but really advertise after X # of months).
        Stephanie Smith
        www.FourSocksFarm.com

        Proudly standing Gold Finish (Palomino JC Stallion)

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        • #5
          Back when I boarded at trainers barns it was $1500/month to be in full training. This included:
          5 rides or lessons a week
          Full care (stalls, feed, supps I provided, wrapping, clipping, grooming, etc)
          Private turnout 7 days a week if you chose (I did)
          Holding for vet/farrier/chiro, etc.

          It did not include any day fees, trailering or grooming at horse shows and we were expected to pay the full $1500/month PLUS all of the show fees/training expenses even when we were gone for months on end at WEF with this trainer. That one always made me mad because it certainly wasn't to 'hold our stalls' while we were gone since trainer was with us and he didn't allow anyone to board at the facility while he was out of town. Basically we had to pay 2-3x over for everything that should have been included in the full board at the show.

          The day I moved to a private farm and started meeting a new trainer at shows and clinics only was a very, very happy day.

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          • #6
            I don't have a horse in training, but I know someone who does. They pay..

            $650/mnth board (full board with grooming etc)
            $30 a ride (5-6 days a week)
            All showing expenses (trailering, entry fees, braiding etc)

            This is in Canada.

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            • #7
              I do offer $50 discounts/credits if one client has one of their friends, or links a new client up with me (for lessons or training). So I guess that makes it cheaper too.. There is no limit either..

              I have had a student bring in 5 other kids, she ended up getting lessons for free for over a month!!
              Stephanie Smith
              www.FourSocksFarm.com

              Proudly standing Gold Finish (Palomino JC Stallion)

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              • #8
                Originally posted by vbunny View Post
                What do you pay for training and what for board (meaning, I am curious of the breakdown. Are you paying $800/month, $400 goes to board $400 to training, for example) and what does that get you? How many rides/lessons/per week, does it include showing, etc, etc. Also, could you include your general area, considering that costs vary so much due to location? Thanks, I am trying to decide what is normal and what is exceptional.
                $800 (just went up) for board, $500 for training (BNT - don't know why he's so cheap but I'm not going to bring it up! ). Stall cleaned 2X per day (rubber mats), shavings are skimpy, fed 3X per day, up to 8 flakes of hay of your choice (3-string bales) and a reasonable amount of grain. Turn out is horrible, but the arenas are fabulous (2 indoors and 1 outdoor, all of them huge). Good variety of jumps. Some trails, but a bit scary for some horses as they go through housing developments with screaming kids and dogs everywhere.

                Training is 6 days a week. It can be any combination of training rides or lessons. I lesson just about every day because I have two horses and alternate which days I ride each. He arranges farrier and vet services.

                Does not include show fees. I do get some discounts for being in training and having two horses on the payroll. For instance, my trainer does not charge me for schooling either my horse or me or for pro rides in the open divisions at the shows. My trainer has VERY reasonable day fees - $50. Can't beat that.

                I'm on the West coast in the high-rent district. I should mention that these fees are pretty darn reasonable considering where I live. I've heard of some show barns/trainers charging as much as $1000 for board and $800 for training. YIKES!

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                • #9
                  I was paying about $2,000 a month in the San Francisco Bay Area. Full service with BNT. Everything was included except showing.

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                  • #10
                    I live in the northeast - an area full of BNTs. Just got a rate sheet from one that is nearby, maybe ten minutes from my house. Gorgeous facility, several BNTs (one international/olympic level, the other well known for producing horses and riders on the national/HOTY level.)

                    Full board is $2000/mo plus a "supply fee" which varies between $200-300 per month in addition. You know, for all that expensive stuff like fly spray, hoof oil...

                    Training is $100 per lesson; the expectation is a minimum of 2 lessons per week. I figure you'd have to budget somewhere around $3k a month at home per horse.

                    Oh and yes - their barn is full.
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                    • #11
                      My monthly training is $650 which includes full board. Most trainers in my area are betwee $600 and $800 per month.
                      www.shawneeacres.net

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                      • #12
                        I pay $1,000/mo. The break-down tends to change from invoice to invoice (i.e., how they allocate among supplies/training/board isn't always the same). But, in general, it's around $510 for board (box stall w/ overnight turnout), $350 for training (3 lessons and 2 pro rides per week), $80 for grooming and $80 for supplies.

                        Show fees are extra. $65/day trainer fees, $55/day groom fees, plus expenses.

                        I am in central california.

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                        • #13
                          I'm in Denver.

                          850 board (includes turnout, hay 3X day, strongid)
                          400 training (pro-rated according to how much the horse is ridden)
                          50 each for lessons
                          300 for full grooming

                          I <3 my trainer but it is expensive to ride here!
                          * Sunny * Ella (2006 filly) * Tank (2008 colt)*

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                          • #14
                            At my barn, board is $425, for matted stalls, feed, hay, excellent turnout, blanketing, laundry, arranging vet/farrier visits, etc.
                            Full training is $800 for 6 rides or lessons a week, and partial training is $400 for 3 rides or lessons a week.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Sunny's Mom View Post
                              I'm in Denver.

                              850 board (includes turnout, hay 3X day, strongid)
                              400 training (pro-rated according to how much the horse is ridden)
                              50 each for lessons
                              300 for full grooming

                              I <3 my trainer but it is expensive to ride here!
                              $300 a month for everyday grooming? Can't you groom yourself and cut that charge off?

                              Curious about the "other supply fee" that some of you pay... can't you get your own hoof liquid, fly prays and necesities that your horse needs?

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                              • #16
                                I'll be interested to see what Sunny's mom says.

                                A barn I was considering a few years back charged monthly grooming and supply fees. These were non-negotiable, required fees. I did not board there as the monthly bill was more than double the competition.
                                Last edited by SkipChange; Sep. 18, 2009, 02:38 PM.

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                                • #17
                                  Originally posted by Ozone View Post
                                  $300 a month for everyday grooming? Can't you groom yourself and cut that charge off?

                                  Curious about the "other supply fee" that some of you pay... can't you get your own hoof liquid, fly prays and necesities that your horse needs?
                                  Most people can and certainly do buy their own supplies, but in a lot of show/training barns, grooming service is not optional. The argument is that the appearance of the horses reflect on the barn, and they want to ensure that the horses are turned out to the barn's/trainer's standard.

                                  My horse has lived in full care situations from time to time. I liked knowing he would get attention and a thorough grooming daily whether I could get to the barn or not. It was peace of mind for me when I was traveling for work, for example. On the days I was able to get there to ride, I generally groomed and tacked my horse, using my own supplies.

                                  I actually pride myself on my grooming skills and enjoy the time I spend on the ground with my horse... but it didn't mean I got a break on my bills.
                                  **********
                                  We move pretty fast for some rabid garden snails.
                                  -PaulaEdwina

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                                  • #18
                                    I love my trainer. I love my trainer. I love my trainer.

                                    $375/ month board ( seperate BO)
                                    $100/ month training + 64 stalls a month= 3 lessons a week

                                    That includes- hay, grain, shavings, hold for farrier/vet/chirro, and blanket changes (need to call, they won't auto do it)

                                    Generally my trainer will help tack up your horse if you are running late - or one of the other girls in the barn are willing to help out.

                                    Doesn't include shows, but it's $50/ day at a show, and she will help you with whatever you need - ie clean that stall, tack up, untack, braid whatever. I trailer myself..

                                    Mind you I have done a lot for my trainer from advertising, help selling horses, and teaching lessons.
                                    My BO is a sane business women that knows her way around horses. I cannot say enough of her.
                                    My trainer is awesome working with problem horses/riders, knows when to push you and when not to.I have done a lot of work for her over the years, which is one of the reasons why it's so cheap. Not to mention I have brought her a lot of students. But she is excellent and she totally knows what she is talking about. She is primarily an eventer but will go to any show you ask her to. Lately she has/will be gone to shows from everything to an event, IHSA, 'A' rated show, to schooling shows. I lofff her. <3

                                    This is not standard for the area by any means. $450-$600 you are paying for nicer looking barn/worse care. and one lesson is usually around $40-70 a pop.

                                    This tread reminds me that I need to give my trainer a big big hug today and never complain when I have to do an extra stall or two!

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                                    • #19
                                      Usually a flat $1500/month, which includes everything; turn out, automatic fly sprays, fans, blanketing, wrapping, etc.

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                                      • #20
                                        I am in Denver and am currently "shopping"...I have found that board rates are pretty consistently between 800-900 (includes cleaning, feeding, turn out) and training on top of that is 600-650 (15-20 contacts a month, which can be training rides or lessons). It's really expensive here....but we have lots of big shows close by which reduces showing travel expenses (justifying). :-)
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