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  • Is anyone else getting sick and tired of...

    ... all the threads around here which are basically sale ads masquerading as legit threads? Seriously, they get more and more clever every day. It's irritating. I try very hard to keep my posts focused and within the rules. Sometimes I'd like to ask a question or get some advice about buying or selling, but don't post it because, to myself, it seems like i might be a little "borderline". It's one thing to have a link in your signature that links to a farm site with sale horses or photos that include sale horses... that way, if we want to find them, we can do so on our own time - not with you shoving them down our throat.

    Oh, and if you're going to be shiesty about marketing your creature around here, why not at least make sure you're not asking $867,000 for your 12h donkey/warmblood cross that's just, like, so AMAZING at EVERYTHING!!!!!!?

    Nevermind, keep posting. At least I know I'm getting my laugh for the day!

    ..and now I step off my soap box...
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    Yes.

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    • #3
      Do you alert the mods i you think a post is "over the line"?
      Janet

      chief feeder and mucker for Music, Spy, Belle and Tiara. Someone else is now feeding and mucking for Chief and Brain (both foxhunting now).

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      • #4
        honestly, it never crossed my mind...

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        • #5
          Maybe I'm naive, but I can't say any post has ever come across to me as thinly disguised advertising. Just notify the Mods if you really have a problem with it. If they agree, bye-bye thread!
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          • #6
            I get a giggle out of them. Kind of like when I catch my kiddos doing something they know they shouldn't then try to hide/undo it when they see me watching.....hmm, my horse does that too.....
            Jen Evans & DaBear

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              #7
              Originally posted by Janet View Post
              Do you alert the mods i you think a post is "over the line"?
              To be honest, no. I don't feel it's my job to be the police around here. I don't have that much free time to hang out around here that I would take the time to rat people out, I guess. It was just a moment where I realized that there had been quite a few of these lately and it rubbed me the wrong way. But I guess if I'm going to complain about it I better be willing to put my money where my mouth is, lol.
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              • #8
                I don't see anything wrong with the poster's webpage being put at the end of the post. In fact I've found them interesting. A lot of the breeders here have a lot of advice and are willing to pass it along.

                But there is the the odd stallion owner who pipes up at every opportunity saying to try their stallion on every darned mare that has ever had a fertile egg.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by GreystoneKC View Post
                  I don't have that much free time to hang out around here that I would take the time to rat people out
                  It takes two seconds. Hit the alert icon, type the word "ad," hit send. Done.

                  If it bothers you that much, do something about it.

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                  • #10
                    honestly, i wish there were a section for sales. It would be a good way to network between buyer and seller.
                    Eight Fences Farm. Mansfield, MA

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by luvs2ridewbs View Post
                      honestly, i wish there were a section for sales. It would be a good way to network between buyer and seller.
                      There is a section for sales. It's at the end of the page and called 'classifieds' .

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by GreystoneKC View Post
                        But I guess if I'm going to complain about it I better be willing to put my money where my mouth is, lol.
                        Yes, it takes a lot less time to click on the "alert" than to start a whole new thread on it.
                        Janet

                        chief feeder and mucker for Music, Spy, Belle and Tiara. Someone else is now feeding and mucking for Chief and Brain (both foxhunting now).

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                        • #13
                          Agreed that it is faster to hit "alert" than it is to start a whole thread.

                          And I think the Mods are actually a bit quick to pull something for supposed advertising. I have a never-expiring black mark against me because two years ago I asked how much having bad feet would hurt the price of an otherwise sound and sane show horse. Horse wasn't ever for sale -- I was just curious. Yet now I sit on the brink of eternal damnation because I dared to ask that question.

                          So I think the Mods do a stand up, if even TOO enthusiastic, job policing the forums for ads. And you should learn to use the alert button if it bothers you that much.
                          Originally posted by tidy rabbit
                          Oh, well, clearly you're not thoroughly indoctrinated to COTH yet, because finger pointing and drawing conclusions are the cornerstones of this great online community.

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                          • #14
                            Some, I don't mind, but others I do report. There was one a while ago that was basically "I have really cheap horses. They are this old, do this, this, and this, and are fabulous. Any advice?".

                            Yeah, advertise somewhere else.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Janet View Post
                              Yes, it takes a lot less time to click on the "alert" than to start a whole new thread on it.
                              Considering I have no idea what you and MHM are talking about with the "alert" button and would be going through sending a PM to a mod if I so chose to complain about one, I don't think it's all that unreasonable. I also might not even hit the "alert" button, whatever it is, on these posts. Why? First, because I am not the COTH police - it's not my job to rat them out for advertising. If the mods find it unacceptable, I'm sure they'll find it. Second, maybe I don't think it's all *that* bad. Like ExJumper said, she got shunned for however long because someone ratted her out. I don't feel the need to do that to someone on that account maybe unless it's very blatant. I'd rather shun the very evil and inappropriate posters. ;-) I just don't particularly like my time wasted when I go to read a thread that seems interesting, but it turns out to give me a vibe of being contrived simply to advertise.

                              I also see no reason why people on this thread need to be snippy. My point was clearly stated in the title and hover-over and if you don't agree or didn't care to discuss, you really didn't need to waste your time reading it. But please feel free to explain the "alert" button, because while I might not use it in this case, I know a few times in the past there have been a few posters I would love to have just BEEPED!
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                              • #16
                                Originally posted by GreystoneKC View Post
                                Considering I have no idea what you and MHM are talking about with the "alert" button and would be going through sending a PM to a mod if I so chose to complain about one, I don't think it's all that unreasonable.
                                It's the little "!" shaped icon at the top right of every post. Try pressing it sometime. It will take you to a screen where you can enter a little note for the mods about why the post might be problematic.

                                I report one or two posts each week, usually for either advertising or blatant rudeness to another OP (like calling someone else an idiot who doesn't deserve to walk the face of the earth).

                                I also might not even hit the "alert" button, whatever it is, on these posts. Why? First, because I am not the COTH police - it's not my job to rat them out for advertising. If the mods find it unacceptable, I'm sure they'll find it.
                                ROFLMAO. You think the mods sit around all day and read every single post on every thread!? This is a community. Just like you'd report a rule breaking problem in real life to the real life police (who don't go around staring in everyone's window constantly to see if there's a new case of rule-breaking), you'd report a virtual rule breaking problem to the mods.

                                Or perhaps you prefer to free-load on the community and let the rest of us pick up the slack. That's...charming.

                                I also see no reason why people on this thread need to be snippy. My point was clearly stated in the title and hover-over and if you don't agree or didn't care to discuss, you really didn't need to waste your time reading it.
                                Um, we ARE discussing it. The last time I checked, everyone on this thread had pressed the "Reply" button and gave their response to your original post. That's called a "discussion".
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                                • #17
                                  Originally posted by GreystoneKC View Post
                                  Considering I have no idea what you and MHM are talking about with the "alert" button and would be going through sending a PM to a mod if I so chose to complain about one, I don't think it's all that unreasonable.
                                  It is the little triangle with the exclamation point.

                                  Clicking on it lets you send a short note.

                                  It doesn't constitute a complaint, and certainly not "policing" or "ratting".

                                  It simply tells the mods (who can't possibly check every single thread and post) that "you might want to look at this one".


                                  I also might not even hit the "alert" button, whatever it is, on these posts. Why? First, because I am not the COTH police - it's not my job to rat them out for advertising. If the mods find it unacceptable, I'm sure they'll find it. Second, maybe I don't think it's all *that* bad. Like ExJumper said, she got shunned for however long because someone ratted her out.
                                  I don't see how anyone gets "shunned" from an alert for an ad. All that happens is the post is deleted or closed. You don't get banned for a questionalble ad.

                                  I don't feel the need to do that to someone on that account maybe unless it's very blatant. I'd rather shun the very evil and inappropriate posters. ;-) I just don't particularly like my time wasted when I go to read a thread that seems interesting, but it turns out to give me a vibe of being contrived simply to advertise.
                                  You want to have your cake AND eat it too.

                                  I also see no reason why people on this thread need to be snippy. My point was clearly stated in the title and hover-over and if you don't agree or didn't care to discuss, you really didn't need to waste your time reading it. But please feel free to explain the "alert" button, because while I might not use it in this case, I know a few times in the past there have been a few posters I would love to have just BEEPED!
                                  I didn't see anyone being "snippy".

                                  But I am confused by this bit

                                  "if you don't agree or didn't care to discuss, you really didn't need to waste your time reading it."

                                  You seem to be saying that only people who "agree" are allowed to "discuss"
                                  Janet

                                  chief feeder and mucker for Music, Spy, Belle and Tiara. Someone else is now feeding and mucking for Chief and Brain (both foxhunting now).

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                                  • #18
                                    Originally posted by jn4jenny View Post
                                    It's the little "!" shaped icon at the top right of every post. Try pressing it sometime. It will take you to a screen where you can enter a little note for the mods about why the post might be problematic.
                                    You do have to be logged in to see the button, though. That took me longer to figure out than it should have
                                    Originally posted by tidy rabbit
                                    Oh, well, clearly you're not thoroughly indoctrinated to COTH yet, because finger pointing and drawing conclusions are the cornerstones of this great online community.

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                                    • #19
                                      Originally posted by Janet View Post
                                      I don't see how anyone gets "shunned" from an alert for an ad. All that happens is the post is deleted or closed. You don't get banned for a questionalble ad.
                                      Actually, you do. I don't know how many "infraction points" you have to accrue before you get banned, but I have one! This is what it says on my control panel:


                                      Latest Infractions Received

                                      Post--------Date---------------Expires----Points---Reason--------Posted By
                                      Infraction--May. 28, 2007-----Never-----1---------Advertising----Erin
                                      Originally posted by tidy rabbit
                                      Oh, well, clearly you're not thoroughly indoctrinated to COTH yet, because finger pointing and drawing conclusions are the cornerstones of this great online community.

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                                      • #20
                                        Interesting.

                                        Where do you see that?

                                        Can anyone else see it? If not, how would they shun you?
                                        Janet

                                        chief feeder and mucker for Music, Spy, Belle and Tiara. Someone else is now feeding and mucking for Chief and Brain (both foxhunting now).

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