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Jumping videos, critique? 3rd video added post #19

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  • Jumping videos, critique? 3rd video added post #19

    Here are a couple of videos from today's rides. Please let me know what you think. Thanks! Sorry no helmet cam today, I forgot to put it on!

    We're still laid off the horse showing until next year because of contstruction projects at home. This is the first course work either me or the horses have done since the end of April. We've been doing dressage and single fences or gymnastics.

    The first one is my 4 y.o Oldenburg Commander Aero.


    Added the first trip of the day too... this is the same link as in post #19.


    This next one is my 12 y.o TB gelding Havoline.

    Last edited by tidy rabbit; Sep. 7, 2009, 08:29 PM.
    Stoneybrook Farm Afton TN

  • #2
    aero is awful! you MUST send him to me right away!

    Havoline and Aero both look GREAT!
    "If you are nervous you arent focused-if you are focused, there is no room for nerves!"


    • Original Poster

      Thanks BH....

      I wish I could bring Aero up to the GM clinic! Seeing how he's got his new Edgewood Oversided Oversized bridle and he really wants to get out in public someplace. Ahhh heck, I wish I could bring both of them up there for GM.
      Stoneybrook Farm Afton TN


      • #4
        Wow you guys all look great! It's obvious that your dressage work has paid off, something I definately need to do more of lol. Your 4-yr-old is very impressive! I love that brush jump at the end of the arena, did you use a tree for that?


        • #5
          still have 2 spots open! come join!!!
          "If you are nervous you arent focused-if you are focused, there is no room for nerves!"


          • Original Poster

            Originally posted by Wizard of Oz's View Post
            Wow you guys all look great! It's obvious that your dressage work has paid off, something I definately need to do more of lol. Your 4-yr-old is very impressive! I love that brush jump at the end of the arena, did you use a tree for that?
            It's a brush box and we filled it full of pine branches. It's funny about that brush box, Aero jumped it right off the first approach where Havoline stopped the first time. Funny how different their brains are! Gotta love a good brain on a 4 y.o!
            Stoneybrook Farm Afton TN


            • #7
              They both look great, TR! I will take Aero, please. Just send him to me via whichever shipping company you prefer (FedEx, UPS, or USPS). The check is in the mail. I promise

              Now I want to see a video of Dodger jumping the course!
              Flying F Sport Horses
              Horses in the NW


              • Original Poster

                Originally posted by PNWjumper View Post

                Now I want to see a video of Dodger jumping the course!
                You'll be pleased to know that Dodger is well on his way to getting ready for his horse show debut with YOU at KHP next summer! Today he did his first line, a tiny vertical to a tiny X, ahhhh so cute. He's super thoughtful and very very easy. I think he's going to make Aero look difficult if you can imagine that?
                Stoneybrook Farm Afton TN


                • #9
                  Originally posted by tidy rabbit View Post
                  The first one is my 4 y.o Oldenburg Commander Aero.



                  • #10
                    Ummm Aero is just begging to be a fancy-schmancy Eq horse. For real. It looks like his calling.


                    • #11
                      Aero looks so comfortable to sit on.

                      Oh, and I sure wouldn't kick Havoline out of my barn either.


                      • #12
                        They both look great! For Aero, I would be doing a lot of turn on the haunches and leg yeilding to teach him to get off your leg. I would also be making sure that he is very straight on the flat, this will help him with his lead changes. It looks like you have done very well with this becuase he seems to have figured out his lead changes for the most part. In my opinion, just keeping him straight and balenced is the most important thing. I was amazed at how calm he looked for a 4 year old! He looks like he will be a great horse someday. Keep up the good work!


                        • #13
                          I do not know what discipline you are training your pony's for, so that may make some of my comments less than relevant.

                          What I see is a bit of a defensive ride, not defensive as in I am scared but as in you are riding a much bigger course and you need to find perfect spots and control pace and impulsion immediately after each fence.

                          For both your horses, jumping the course they jumped, I would like to have seen a much more relaxed forward ride. It appeared to me there was a lot of spot selection and as a result, more so on the TB, the horse is getting more elevated than need be, and once you find the spot you are kinda saying go and getting a little strung out before your fences, specifically more speed then impulsion before the fence, resulting in your fences looking rushed, forcing you to play catch up over the fence which is causing you to have to take back way more than you should have to after the fences which is making you close up way faster over the fence than you should, and ultimately taking away a little bit from your horses jump.

                          I would suggest just riding them in front of your leg and balanced, softening up your hands
                          and letting them flow into you. Just like that feeling you get when your horse is well balanced at the canter, and each movement feels seamless, you should feel pretty much the same before over and after a fence. Your ride, will of course get more specific the higher the fences go, but up to 4'3" or so, on a horse that is not lacking the scope, you should be able to ride a course much as described without having to worry much about adjustments in pace and impulsion etc.

                          Just my one cent.


                          • #14
                            once again, Aero looks horrible and unhappy. He really needs to come to CA to be with me


                            • Original Poster

                              Hauwse, your one cent is always much appreciated.

                              Thanks for taking the time to comment. I'll keep your suggestions in mind next time I jump them.
                              Stoneybrook Farm Afton TN


                              • #16
                                I do very much enjoy your videos! TR, your position is just lovely. Both boys just look amazing. Aero really looks like he's coming along nicely. I almost do agree to an extent about him, I'd love to see your eq course that you just did flow more like the hunter course you posted eons ago. I can appreciate what you're doing, though, with keeping him well in hand and making sure he's always on his back end and not getting strung out, which is certainly important for a 4 year old. As for Havoline, you just do what you do on him; I'll probably never jump any of mine as big as you and he do, so just keep on keeping on!


                                • #17
                                  Since everyone wants Aero, I'll suck it up and take Havoline.


                                  • #18
                                    Tidy Rabbit, watching your videos was absolutely enjoyable!


                                    • Original Poster

                                      I've added a second video of Aero from yesterday. This was our first trip through the whole course and at the end the brush box scared him a little bit on the landing side so he sort of scoots and then I let him kind of fall into his halt. But I think this trip flows a lot better then the second trip.

                                      Stoneybrook Farm Afton TN


                                      • #20
                                        Aero is sure growing up!

                                        I would like to see both of them a bit looser through their backs and reaching through more. I don't mind seeing a horse at Havoline's level in a more advanced frame, but he looks to me like he is not maintaining the softness through the back and neck I would want to see in a more "put together" frame. I guess what I am trying to say is that you are mechanically producing your ride on him, it's a bit over controlled. You are putting him together rather than bringing him together. So with him I would work on getting him looser and more relaxed and then riding him into a softer hand, using your body more to half halt and get him balanced. Once you get that back softened and canter more uphill, you won't have to place him so much at the fences but be able to ride forward softly to it. But is he the one with kissing spines? That could be a lot of it.

                                        With Aero, similarly, I would work on getting him reaching through more in his back. He looks soft longitudenally but not as soft to you laterally as he could be. I would do yielding exercises to get him soft off the leg before I would put him together quite so much. Personally, I like to do most of the jumping with young horses off circles because it helps soften them laterally and keep them loose. There's a brief clip of walk before the canter transition and from that I would work on getting him more forward and through and loose through the walk; that will help the transition and thus the canter. Lovely jump, and really beautiful boy!!

                                        Have you thought about going up a hole with your stirrups for jumping?
                                        It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. (Aristotle)