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Paint colored horses in jumper/eq land?

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  • Paint colored horses in jumper/eq land?

    So in my quest for a new prospect... I ran across one of my horse's babies... total greenie, probably has 5 rides on him, started by who knows who... does not steer, does not know what leg means, etc. But is backed. He feels just like my big jumper man that far exceeded my expectations and is now off in 'A' show land (I am unfortunately geographically and time challenged so I can not participate much more than 1x a year with the big kids so to speak of). Same personality. Same everything.... well.....

    Said youngster is a chestnut pinto colored Rhinelander with a TON of white (I'm trying to motivate for the hours of cleaning time), and one blue eye. I myself have never been a big fan of pinto colored jumpers, but this guy may have just changed my mind! I am in LOVE!

    So.... first off, I need adorable pictures of other pinto/paint jumpers, eq, hunters

    Which brings me to my question, which may be silly, but hey, there are no stupid questions right? Do any of you show them in EQ? I dabble in the adult stuff occasionally and would like to continue and grow on that, and although I mostly just show locally and it doesn't matter here, do the paint colors get discriminated against in the big shows EQ? I'm not going to get looked at like I'm riding in on a mule or anything am I? I know it's supposed to be about the rider blah blah blah, but you know.... I thought it would be worth asking! I just don't see a lot of them around!

  • #2
    I've always loved this video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaJyEPHYMYI

    For the eq, I think as long as you ride well and the horse goes nicely it shouldn't count against you. You will stand out more, which can be good or bad, but I don't think any worthwhile judge will fault you for a nice pinto horse. I know one woman who has done really well in the adult eq stuff with a pinto horse. He isn't a loud pinto, just one spot on his side, but they do fabulously, mostly because she rides so well.


    • #3
      My large pony was a paint and I think it made him cuter, he would have been fine as a plain bay but his head wasn't the prettiest and his markings definitely distracted from that! Here is a picture of him:

      Brianne Goutal's jumper, Mon Gamin, who is in the video posted is very popular with the crowds because of his color. In the hunters I wouldn't think they would be discriminated against, and certainly less so in the eq. there are some BNT with pintos in their barns, for example, this one does the big eq:

      And this is a local horse that does very well, the horse is fancy regardless of it's color! Pictures aren't the best unfortunately:

      I personally prefer a minimal amount of paint markings, usually sobinos. Although I wouldn't say that paints/pintos are discriminated against per say in the horse rings, I think they are much more approved of in the pony ring (same with appaloosas and palominos)... if that makes any sense. For example Otteridge Black Hawk (http://www.flickr.com/photos/2538379...7612122727159/), Up Til Dawn (http://www.othfarm.com/images/sale/s...TillDawn02.jpg) and Keep Dreamin' (http://www.legacycup.com/legacycup_0...dinan-0513.jpg) have done well at the top level, and the 2nd highest selling pony at the PF Auction in '07 for $52,000 was an app, Little White Dove (http://www.professionalauction.com/0...ahpc_pix_l.jpg)..
      the ponies


      • #4
        I LOVE paints, Don Stewart has one in the eq (piece of art or something like that) and I tried to get a previous trainer to look at it and he refused! I'm still kicking myself! They do stand out, if your great you will be remembered as the person on the paint, but at the same time, if you have issues, you are also remembered as the person on the paint!!!

        I noticed many last weekend up at HITS Saugerties.

        And I could be wrong here and I should just ask, but didn't Leslie Burr Howard win the Maclay on a paint? Granted that was many moons ago, but didnt stop her!

        So I say go for it!!

        I laughed last night watching that video on the news of the paint in Isreal or wherever jumping over/through a car, looked at daughter and said, let's get that one, he will jump anything!!


        • #5
          Love, love, love paints! I've always wanted one I do like less white and more of the color but that's just a personal preference
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          • #6
            I have a very loudly marked pinto that I show in the A/A hunters (and even the sidesaddle once, LOL). FANTASTIC jump, but more dressage-y in movement. I was planning on moving her up to the A/O's this year, but she hurt herself in the spring, so we have to postpone it until next year. You can see her on my website, her name is Kalliopy.

            Hunter/JumperMom, I think Piece of Art is a PINTO, not a paint.
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            • #7
              There are lots of pictures on this thread:



              • #8
                Originally posted by Hunter/JumperMom View Post
                And I could be wrong here and I should just ask, but didn't Leslie Burr Howard win the Maclay on a paint? Granted that was many moons ago, but didnt stop her!

                Leslie did win the Maclay Finals on a pinto. Many years later (1993 or '94?), there was a special event equitation class one night in Florida for past Finals winners, and she used a pinto and won that class as well!

                I believe on that occasion, she rode Missy Clark's pinto Scout.

                To the OP- if it's a good horse, it's a good color.


                • Original Poster

                  Oh joy! I love the Mon Gamin video. His coloring is very similar.

                  Good horse = good color... exactly!

                  I saw an adorable huge black and white pinto warmblood of some sort at the Country Classic a few weeks back doing the jumpers and he was definitely gorgeous, I couldn't take my eyes off him. Maybe it was my mind telling me what was to come!


                  • #10
                    I know there has been quite a few other threads about this, but I'm too lazy to find them . I agree with other people though, a colored horse can make or break you.


                    • #11
                      We have two paints at my barn that do very well in Hunters and Eq


                      • Original Poster

                        I'm not too worried about the flash factor, I'm switching from a huge blood bay sabino with a blaze, 4 socks all over the knees, and a black and white tail (sire was Alla'Czar and dam was also a sabino, but Shire... lots of beefcake and white there lol). I didn't fade off into the background on that one, lol. He's in my profile pic

                        I think I am sold on this new guy for sure, sounds like no problemo


                        • #13
                          I do Hunters, Jumpers, and Eq on my Paint Pony. And hes got quite a bit of white, and a blue eye! But Ive never had a problem with him being a paint, he steps it up a little i think cause he thinks he special


                          neutral milk hotel, my pony has the same exact head as yours! The spots definatley distract from their heads a little bit


                          • #14
                            Mon Gamin is amazing! I photographed him some at the Intl Hunter Derby this past winter at WEF. Rocked my socks off!


                            • #15
                              Originally posted by HowDoILook View Post
                              I do Hunters, Jumpers, and Eq on my Paint Pony. And hes got quite a bit of white, and a blue eye! But Ive never had a problem with him being a paint, he steps it up a little i think cause he thinks he special

                              Nice pic- very cute!


                              • #16
                                My friend leased Hawk, hes a great pony My own opinion about Paints, I like minimal on the body, a few patches, but I like lots of leg and face chrome, I like a more refined body. I think paints catch the judges eye more then plain bays, chestnuts, etc.


                                • #17
                                  My Holsteiner jumper is a paint on one side and solid on the other with four white feet and "headlights" on the front. He is GORGEOUS and jumps like a freak. He had a very very successful year back east leased out doing the big eq and won everywhere....including doing medal, mcclay and uset finals. I think if you get a good one - there are none better. But the bad ones seem to be pretty bad......I have seen some fabulous ones lately. I know that Mario DesLaurius (sp sorry) had a fabulous one for sale on his site that looked like a gas. Personally I love them.


                                  • #18

                                    This is the photo of my paint jumper, Lucky Lou. Thought I posted it before but I didn't get it right! lol.


                                    • #19
                                      I show my Paint gelding in the hunters and eq. Just the A/As for now but I hope to move up to the A/Os in a few years.
                                      He is mostly whit and has two blue eyes. I definitely think he is discriminated against more in the hunters than the eq. But, with most judges, there is very little discrimination, if any at all.
                                      Here is the link to his album:


                                      • #20
                                        picky but...

                                        A PAINT is a breed with it's own registry. Mainly QH types, parents either QH or Paint (sometimes a TB too). No WBs. No drafts. No Ponies either.

                                        We do throw the term Paint around to just describe the color. But, sometimes, somebody says their Paint did not get used and I wonder if it really is the pseudo QH type with color that just has the wrong body type for theAA Hunters or it's some WB tagged with "paint" to describe color. Can make a difference phrasing an opinion or an answer.
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