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  • How is Leadline judged?

    I am thinking of taking DD to a few leadline classes before we let her loose in the ring alone.
    I will be totally honest and say that I never saw the value in leadline, until now. I am thinking that a kid who as never shown before should NOT be let loose in there until she understands the basics! So lead line will give her a good idea of what commands will be asked, how the ring functions ( everyone goes the same direction ect) and how the line up works.
    We have few local shows with leadline at the walk ,trot and one off lead class ( although I think a bunch of horses and ponies trotting around the ring with a bunch of people running along side , or AFTER them sounds dangerous to me)
    So I assume the judge is looking for good turn out, suitability, and pretty picture, are they interested in diagonals in the trot class? we do know ours so that is not an issue. Do they want the KIDS to control the pony ( while the handler just hangs onto the end of the lead rope just in case there is a problem?) or should the handler be asking for the walk, and the halt?
    I have stood around and watched a TON of these classes without ever really pay attention, now I need help! LOL
    thanks for any info.
    Kim
    If you are lucky enough to ride, you are lucky enough.

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    Leadline is judged mostly on suitability (is the pony well-behaved and forgiving?), equitation (is the kid making an effort at least to keep the heels down/shoulders back/eyes up/etc.?), horsemanship (they often ask a simple question like "what color is your pony"), and of course, the overall cute factor.

    Diagonals are good to know in a walk/trot leadline, and I'd imagine that the judge would prefer a rider that can successfully ask the pony to go/whoa over one where the leader is obviously doing everything. That being said, it is a LEADLINE class, so I don't think you'll be penalized much for say, needing to encourage a reluctant pony to trot on for a little kid whose legs don't go past the saddle.

    Most leadline classes pick a winner and then everyone else ties for second (or some other similar arrangement) and are designed to introduce kids to the atmosphere of showing and make them want to move up to the bigger divisions.

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    • #3
      Leadline is... judged? I've only ever seen the little ones go 'round, then the announcer says that the judge can't possible decide, and they all get blue ribbons.

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      • #4
        I take my trainers son in lead line. I find that it is mostly on having the correct foundations for safe riding (heels down, sitting up straight, holding the reins correctly, proper posting). A suitable pony is a MUST for lead line. The pony we use for my trainers son is very suitable, but one day he found out there were mints and my pocket and the whole time he was trying to bite me. The judge told us that's why he win (only 2 in the class, him and his 2 year old sister who cant post consistently). I don't think diagonals matter unless its a really big class, its mostly just basics. usually they just have them trot down a long side and walk at the end. I have my kid make the pony go and stop by himself (with a little encouragement by starting to jog in front of him because he is lazy). But its really just suitability and basics.

        Just a little brag My pony did the lead line with my trainers 2 year old daughter, and we won our suitability class. Even though she gets to distracted to post sometimes. He said he loved how my pony would jog with his head on the ground, right after he just watched me clock around the jumper ring The look on peoples face when we asked to hold the lead line cause the pony was doing the jumpers was priceless

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          #5
          Originally posted by HowDoILook View Post
          I take my trainers son in lead line. I find that it is mostly on having the correct foundations for safe riding (heels down, sitting up straight, holding the reins correctly, proper posting). A suitable pony is a MUST for lead line. The pony we use for my trainers son is very suitable, but one day he found out there were mints and my pocket and the whole time he was trying to bite me. The judge told us that's why he win (only 2 in the class, him and his 2 year old sister who cant post consistently). I don't think diagonals matter unless its a really big class, its mostly just basics. usually they just have them trot down a long side and walk at the end. I have my kid make the pony go and stop by himself (with a little encouragement by starting to jog in front of him because he is lazy). But its really just suitability and basics.

          Just a little brag My pony did the lead line with my trainers 2 year old daughter, and we won our suitability class. Even though she gets to distracted to post sometimes. He said he loved how my pony would jog with his head on the ground, right after he just watched me clock around the jumper ring The look on peoples face when we asked to hold the lead line cause the pony was doing the jumpers was priceless
          That is AWESOME! you hit the pony jackpot!! Thanks for sharing!
          Kim
          If you are lucky enough to ride, you are lucky enough.

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          • #6
            Leadline is judged by one of these:

            1. who the child belongs to
            2. who is doing the leading
            3. who the pony belongs to

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            • #7
              Originally posted by wsmoak View Post
              Leadline is... judged? I've only ever seen the little ones go 'round, then the announcer says that the judge can't possible decide, and they all get blue ribbons.

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              Wendy
              I think it just depends on the show. I've seen it both ways, sometimes everyone ties for first, sometimes they actually place the class, sometimes they have a winner and everyone else ties for second. It varies.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Coreene View Post
                Leadline is judged by one of these:

                1. who the child belongs to
                2. who is doing the leading
                3. who the pony belongs to

                YUP this is what I have experienced LOL just making sure I am on target!
                Kim
                If you are lucky enough to ride, you are lucky enough.

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                • #9
                  all of the shows I judge have me tie them all for 1st...I got 3rd in my first leadline...lol
                  "You can't really debate with someone who has a prescient invisible friend"
                  carolprudm

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                    #10
                    I am NOT against competitive leadline, of course I do understand that its good for little ones to have a good experience. That said, my DD is COMPETITIVE ( she gets it from her dad, trust me) I think a few lead line classes so that she learns the ropes will be enough for her, she will WANT to know who wins and WHY! By spring she will be able to do some w/t classes on her own, but we want to take it slow and let her adjust to the show ring, by doing lead line she will figure out the mechanics of showing and be more comfortable , I hope.
                    Kim
                    If you are lucky enough to ride, you are lucky enough.

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                    • #11
                      well my 2 yr old DD asked if she could have the green ones (yes, she took TWO) because she already had a blue. Nothing like getting 6th place when you are the only one in the class.

                      So sometimes it doesn't matter what they place, as long as they get the color they want.
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                      • #12
                        Haha, so true. I've seen a lead line winner upset because she wanted the pink ribbon and not the blue one!

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by hj0519 View Post
                          Haha, so true. I've seen a lead line winner upset because she wanted the pink ribbon and not the blue one!
                          that is too funny! I guess giving out all blues is a smart idea!
                          Kim
                          If you are lucky enough to ride, you are lucky enough.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Coreene View Post
                            Leadline is judged by one of these:

                            1. who the child belongs to
                            2. who is doing the leading
                            3. who the pony belongs to

                            Not on my card!

                            That being said, often I am asked by show management if I would tie them, so I do.

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                            • #15
                              When I judge leadline, I'm looking for the best rider.

                              Correct turnout helps make a good impression, a suitable mount lets the rider shine, but I'm looking for the kid who would cope the best if all the people leading the entries disappeared in a puff of smoke.

                              BTW, it is usually not the judge who decides if the leadline will be pinned or tied. That is a decision for show management.

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                              • #16
                                Originally posted by wsmoak View Post
                                Leadline is... judged? I've only ever seen the little ones go 'round, then the announcer says that the judge can't possible decide, and they all get blue ribbons.

                                --
                                Wendy
                                Yeh, apparently back east, leadline is Serious Business. Kinda like getting your kind into the best nursery school so that s/he will be able to sail right into Harvard later.

                                You know - you want to get used in the Maclay Medal Finals, you better have socked away a lot of blues in leadline at least by age 3!!
                                Approved helmet: Every time; every ride.
                                "When a sport gets to be predictable it ceases to be fun." - RAR's wise brother

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                                • #17
                                  At our local shows they are all tied...which has upsides and downsides My daughter is going in her first leadline next month at age 22mo She sits up straight, heels down, holds the reins well but heaven help you if you ask her a question lol she doesn't speak to strangers...or really at all!

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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Risk-Averse Rider View Post
                                    Yeh, apparently back east, leadline is Serious Business. Kinda like getting your kind into the best nursery school so that s/he will be able to sail right into Harvard later.

                                    You know - you want to get used in the Maclay Medal Finals, you better have socked away a lot of blues in leadline at least by age 3!!
                                    Great Politics at age 3 ( or in our case 5) LOL!! I can't take the pressure!
                                    Kim
                                    If you are lucky enough to ride, you are lucky enough.

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                                    • #19
                                      Way back when, I used to do some judging for local shows. Show mgt always wanted the leadline to be "fun," ie, all tied for first.

                                      So what I did was to award first places for different things:

                                      Blue ribbon for the kid who posted the best
                                      Blue ribbon for the kid that sat up and balanced the best
                                      Blue ribbon for the kid with the best leg/heel down position
                                      Blue ribbon for the kid with the best steering

                                      Etc.

                                      It worked well and seemed to satisfy everyone - the competitive ones liked being "best" at something specific and the ones that just wanted "a good experience," got a blue ribbon to hang on their banner.

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                                      • #20
                                        Originally posted by Lucassb View Post
                                        Way back when, I used to do some judging for local shows. Show mgt always wanted the leadline to be "fun," ie, all tied for first.

                                        So what I did was to award first places for different things:

                                        Blue ribbon for the kid who posted the best
                                        Blue ribbon for the kid that sat up and balanced the best
                                        Blue ribbon for the kid with the best leg/heel down position
                                        Blue ribbon for the kid with the best steering

                                        Etc.

                                        It worked well and seemed to satisfy everyone - the competitive ones liked being "best" at something specific and the ones that just wanted "a good experience," got a blue ribbon to hang on their banner.

                                        What a fantastic idea.... I got the "stinkpot pony" award at pony camp one summer for being best able to deal with a very barn sour pony - In truth, I was the only one there with a pony that regularly tried to leave the riding ring and high-tail it back to the barn - but at that age I was really proud that they said I was doing a great job of dealing with it.
                                        The rebel in the grey shirt

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