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  • What does 'A show' mean to you?

    There are all types of people who post here...those going to USHJA shows, 4H, Quarter Horse, locals, etc.

    The term A gets used a lot. What does it mean to you?

    When I think of 'A shows', I think USHJA. Are there 'A shows' in other organizations?
    ~ Citizens for a Kinder, Gentler COTH...our mantra: Be nice. ~

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    What does an A show mean to me?

    $$$$

    Seriously, though, I believe there are guidelines in the USEF rule book. I think prize money amounts determine the rating... correct me if I'm wrong.
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    • #3
      The USEF rule book sets forth very specific criteria regarding C, B A and AA ratings. To me an A show does mean more money all around. It also usually means better competition.

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      • #4
        A Show

        It is a rating given to USEF approved horse shows. AA is the top rating, and the major deal there is the amount of prize money in the hunters. A single A show has a few minor differences in requirements for classes, and far less requirement in prize money.
        .........just call me Nana.

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        • #5
          I just go by whatever it says on the prizelist

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          • #6
            Stronger competition, bigger prize money offered, higher entry fees.

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            • #7
              a usef/ushja sanctioned show with an a or aa rating? nothing more, nothing less.

              oh yeah, and all your zone divisions are still C rated no matter what. but hopefully the competition will be a bit tougher in the c rated division held at an A/AA show, versus a C or B show. or not. it still depends on who shows up.
              Your crazy is showing. You might want to tuck that back in.

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              • #8
                Your going up against good riders and horses, tough judging where mistakes will hurt you and take you out of the ribbons. Basically, your going up against the best of the best.

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                  #9
                  Some of you have misunderstood my question. Perhaps I should re-phrase.

                  Despite what the usef rules are, when you hear "A show", what pops into your head? USHJA, AQHA, something else?

                  I always think USHJA. So, when someone asks a question about an A show and another person posts an answer talking about AQHA World, it confuses me. Does the AQHA have the same rating system as USHJA? Is it governed by USEF?
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                  • #10
                    Since you posted in the hunter/jumper forum, I assumed you were talking about USHJA? I am not really understanding your question. I am sure each discipline has different ratings, whether it be dressage, eventing, AQHA, or whatever, so I think it depends on who your talking too.

                    Now because of my ignorance to the AQHA, do they show under USHJA rules, or is it an entirely different organization?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by snaffle635 View Post
                      Some of you have misunderstood my question. Perhaps I should re-phrase.

                      Despite what the usef rules are, when you hear "A show", what pops into your head? USHJA, AQHA, something else?

                      I always think USHJA. So, when someone asks a question about an A show and another person posts an answer talking about AQHA World, it confuses me. Does the AQHA have the same rating system as USHJA? Is it governed by USEF?
                      On THIS board in THIS context I always assume USEF/USHJA A or AA.

                      No. The AQHA does not rate it's shows the same way the USEF or the USHJA does. No. The AQHA is NOT governed by the USEF/USHJA.

                      However there are other 'breed' shows such as Morgans and Arabians that are USEF sanctioned and therefor may be 'A rated'.

                      Back when there was the AHSA there used to be A rated open WESTERN horse shows that were a really big deal on the West coast. The era of 'Horses' magazine.

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                      • #12
                        If I hear 'A Circuit' I think of h/j. If I hear 'A show' I think of Morgans (as they are my chosen breed). Depends on who's saying it though.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by snaffle635 View Post
                          Some of you have misunderstood my question. Perhaps I should re-phrase.

                          Despite what the usef rules are, when you hear "A show", what pops into your head? USHJA, AQHA, something else?

                          I always think USHJA. So, when someone asks a question about an A show and another person posts an answer talking about AQHA World, it confuses me. Does the AQHA have the same rating system as USHJA? Is it governed by USEF?
                          When I read about A shows here on the H/J forum I think of USEF H/J shows. Big shows that count toward regional hi points that count toward national HOTY type stuff. Horse Park shows.

                          Now, in this state there are all kinds of breed shows and horse show associations for ASB, TWH, etc, the fair circuit etc, so the shows advertise as being A shows (up to AAAAA) and have premiums, and to make it even more confusing some shows have multiple affiliations including USEF. The pro vs ammy thing is there, but defined differently, depending on which association is running the show. The show directory I have in my hand states "shall abide by the following USA Equestrian ruling . . ." which might not even be USEF for all I know, and reads as though the bo's bookeeper could be an ammy. Just no trainers.

                          So if someone asks questions about rated shows, I let somebody like Janet answer, cause all I know is that a little knowledge is a dangerous thing.
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                          • #14
                            To the real question; I ALWAYS think of USHJA shows..never really breed shows (if thats the correct term) or anything.

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                            • #15
                              I know virtually nothing about the rating or ranking system of 4-H shows. Do they have 4-H 'A' rated shows?
                              Last edited by LetsRide; Aug. 1, 2009, 05:54 PM. Reason: spelling

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                              • #16
                                Originally posted by LetsRide View Post
                                I know vitually nothing about the rating or ranking system of 4-H shows. Do they have 4-H 'A' rated shows?
                                There is neither a rating or ranking system in the sense that it is comparable to the system used by the USEF or USHJA but there are competitive rankings for those who compete in the multi-extension 4H shows that lead to the national 4H horse competitions.
                                Thus do we growl that our big toes have, at this moment, been thrown up from below!

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                                • #17
                                  An A show is a USEF A-rated show. That's as complicated as I allow it to get.

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                                  • #18
                                    Originally posted by snaffle635 View Post
                                    Some of you have misunderstood my question. Perhaps I should re-phrase.

                                    Despite what the usef rules are, when you hear "A show", what pops into your head? USHJA, AQHA, something else?

                                    I always think USHJA. So, when someone asks a question about an A show and another person posts an answer talking about AQHA World, it confuses me. Does the AQHA have the same rating system as USHJA? Is it governed by USEF?
                                    The ratings are determined by USEF rules, not USHJA.

                                    AQHA is not part of USEF. so USEF ratings are not relevant to AQHA.

                                    The ratings are defined in USEF GR313 , and apply to
                                    Hunters
                                    Jumpers
                                    Andulusians
                                    Arabian
                                    Hackney
                                    Friesian
                                    Morgan
                                    National Show Horse
                                    Roadster
                                    Saddlebred
                                    Welsh
                                    Western

                                    The specs are (obviously) different for each discipline.

                                    Neither Dressage nor Eventing use A, B, C ratings.
                                    Janet

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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Hunter/JumperMom View Post
                                      Since you posted in the hunter/jumper forum, I assumed you were talking about USHJA? I am not really understanding your question. I am sure each discipline has different ratings, whether it be dressage, eventing, AQHA, or whatever, so I think it depends on who your talking too.

                                      Now because of my ignorance to the AQHA, do they show under USHJA rules, or is it an entirely different organization?
                                      That was really my point. I, too, think USHJA because this is a COTH forum - and COTH magazine covers USHJA shows, not breed shows. But I've seen posts on this forum where someone asks a question about A shows and someone answers about AQHA shows.

                                      I think I get it now.
                                      ~ Citizens for a Kinder, Gentler COTH...our mantra: Be nice. ~

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                                      • #20
                                        Originally posted by Janet View Post
                                        The ratings are determined by USEF rules, not USHJA.

                                        AQHA is not part of USEF. so USEF ratings are not relevant to AQHA.
                                        however there is nothing to stop any tom, dick and harry - or other organization with no ties to usef - from using those letters to rank their shows, hence the confusion.

                                        i don't know how aqha ranks/rates their shows, but for sure some state/regional h/j organizations use the a-c system for their local shows.
                                        Your crazy is showing. You might want to tuck that back in.

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