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  • Spinoff. Getting excused in a flat class

    Ok so this clip is driving not riding. Also not saying that there was anything the judge could have possibly done at this particular event.

    Nonetheless, I think this link illustrates how a little freshness one one horses part can derail a whole class in a terrible way.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03YcT74h5Mg

    Most of the time it doesn't go this bad but nothing is to say this or worse couldn't happen in a hunter hack. Imagine a fall off, some plastic chainlink fencing and a baby carriage....

    I guess my opinion is if you are excused, it's probably for a good reason.
    Timothy, stop lurking

  • #2
    I've excused myself from a flat class before! I was taking a greenie to his first show and he flipped out and tried to bolt/freak several times, so I excused myself out of courtesy to the other riders, (since we obviously wouldn't have placed anyways). Mr. Brat went back to the warm-up ring. lol

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    • #3
      OH MY! The comments say everyone was okay? I thought the announcer did a good job trying to keep everyone under control, especially once people started screaming.

      I've excused myself from a hack before. Mare was being a rank idiot so I went into the middle and stood there. Judge told me that I did the right thing. I was very young at the time-like 12? I think I surprised myself by excusing myself
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        #4
        Ha ha. I have never had to pull myself out yet (knock wood) but good for you for realizing it yourself and not hanging in there at the risk of creating a perfect trifecta (what we call it when one fresh horse makes 3 completely innocent bystanders hit the dust)!
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        • #5
          that video is terrifying!!!

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          • #6
            GOOD GOD! Was the announcer the only person with any common sense?? Maybe h/j people are more used to loose horses (post-fall, etc), but I feel like most competitors would know better than trying to leap out in front of a scared, galloping horse. Or that one guy who tried to grab the horse's reins as it flew by-he probably did some shoulder damage there. I think that video just took 5 minutes off my life.
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            • #7
              Oh My God

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              • #8
                holy. cow.

                probably one of the more horrific horse videos ive seen. wow.
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                • #9
                  I had something similar happen in a flat class several years ago. There were about 20 of us in a short stirrup flat class and one rank little pony bucked and bolted, throwing his rider into the fence. We were cantering at the time and before the anouncer could ask everyone to halt their mounts the pony had caused several more to act up. Before we knew it, about have the class was out of control. I, thankfully, had a saint of mare who merely kicked out at the offending pony and continued on her way at a nice lopey canter. By the end, I think there were only 3 or 4 us still mounted! It was a little nuts to say the least.

                  As for the video, I wish people would learn 3 things when a horse is loose:

                  1) SHUT UP!!!

                  2) DON"T try and grab the reins!! (can we say lameness and rope burn!)

                  3) WATCH WHERE THE HORSE IS GOING!!! Why on earth would anyone take their eyes of a horse that is out of control in such confined quarters???
                  If you really think about it, what can you blame on a horse?

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                  • #10
                    When we were on High School Equestrian team my freshman year there was one Junior who constantly excused her self to the middle of the ring. Most of the time it was because she was pissed she was in a class she didn't want to ride!

                    As for the class on the you tube video I have a few things to say:

                    1. I agree with the other posters that apparently people need to learn how to act around terrified horses.

                    2. Running after them doesn't help

                    3. jumping in front of them doesn't help

                    4. Screaming doesn't help

                    Also I saw maybe ONE person do the smart thing. When the announcer called for them to come to the center of the ring only ONE person got out of there cart and unhitched their horse. I am sorry but that would be the first thing I would do. Then there was the other woman (the last horse that bolted with buggy....) After she almost got ran into repeatedly she still just sat there and watched the horse get closer and closer without getting out or unhitching (which at that point might have been hard) I also think that was the woman who got flipped out. I also feel that should have tried to get the horses out earlier.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by nlk View Post
                      . . .
                      Also I saw maybe ONE person do the smart thing. When the announcer called for them to come to the center of the ring only ONE person got out of there cart and unhitched their horse. I am sorry but that would be the first thing I would do. Then there was the other woman (the last horse that bolted with buggy....) After she almost got ran into repeatedly she still just sat there and watched the horse get closer and closer without getting out or unhitching (which at that point might have been hard) I also think that was the woman who got flipped out. I also feel that should have tried to get the horses out earlier.
                      This video was posted a couple of months ago in OC.

                      The woman you are referring to is disabled. That is why she did not get out of the cart. She couldn't, which is why -- when you watch the video carefully -- you see a man drag her out of the way after she gets flipped out of her cart.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by nlk View Post
                        Also I saw maybe ONE person do the smart thing. When the announcer called for them to come to the center of the ring only ONE person got out of there cart and unhitched their horse. I am sorry but that would be the first thing I would do. Then there was the other woman (the last horse that bolted with buggy....) After she almost got ran into repeatedly she still just sat there and watched the horse get closer and closer without getting out or unhitching (which at that point might have been hard) I also think that was the woman who got flipped out. I also feel that should have tried to get the horses out earlier.
                        nlk, do you have much experience with driving? I have some, not a lot, but some, and unless I had a good "pit crew" I can't picture how trying to unhitch in the middle of a panic situation would be a good thing. It takes about a couple of minutes at the best of times to unhitch a horse, in a situation like on the video, you'd want somebody heading the horse and a person on each side, or I can just see a bigger mess waiting to happen if you've got one side undone and the horse being unhitched gets into panic mode! That can be an even bigger mess IMHO. One of the race trainers at the barn had one of his good racehorses come unglued for some reason only known to the horse when he'd only undone one side of the jogger (and with the quick hitches they use it takes almost no time at all) and he got dragged halfway down the track trying to get the horse under control without either of them getting killed. He was lucky, even though the horse almost impaled himself at the girth with a shaft, they were both relatively unscathed, though my friend thought he was going to have a heart attack!
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                        • #13
                          My pony was dismissed from an entire horse show at Santa Cruz (four or five days) due to her poor behavior!
                          This was just before we took her on a two-week trial, and purchased her, back in 1990!
                          Don't worry, it all turned out alright in a few years, so long as she was ridden very accurately around other horses.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Roan View Post
                            This video was posted a couple of months ago in OC.

                            The woman you are referring to is disabled. That is why she did not get out of the cart. She couldn't, which is why -- when you watch the video carefully -- you see a man drag her out of the way after she gets flipped out of her cart.

                            Eileen
                            Interesting to know. However why didn't the person handling the horse up front help bring the horse and driver closer to the middle? There was a person up front I think. I understand keeping the horses quiet etc but it seems to me that after watching them almost get nailed three or four times before the actually did it would have been worth a try.

                            Also as to unhitching the cart I had noticed in the video that two or so people had done that when they went into the center so that 's why I thought to bring it up.

                            I personally will stick to my saddle

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                            • #15
                              [QUOTE=Roan;4271802] The woman you are referring to is disabled. That is why she did not get out of the cart. She couldn't, which is why -- when you watch the video carefully -- you see a man drag her out of the way after she gets flipped out of her cart.[QUOTE]

                              Poor woman, to have limited mobility in a situation like that, not that the other people in the ring seemed to have gotten out very quick. This video seems to make the rounds - I've seen it several times before, and I think it was on FHOTD at one point. At first they do all seem to be chasing the first loose horse very aggressively and maybe not a great idea, but toward the end they seem to be trying to keep it away from the people/horses/carts in the center of the ring, and that horse really just keeps coming back through the center for some reason. I just don't understand why so many people stayed in the ring for so long. The drivers and their people were kind of stuck, and I guess the officials felt it was their place, but it made a pretty big crowd.

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                              • #16
                                Originally posted by Roan View Post
                                The woman you are referring to is disabled. That is why she did not get out of the cart. She couldn't, which is why -- when you watch the video carefully -- you see a man drag her out of the way after she gets flipped out of her cart.
                                Suddenly, there is some understanding for me. I saw this video awhile back and for the life of me couldn't figure out why that woman didn't get out of her cart.

                                I think this is a pretty decent reminder that even if you think you're horse isn't going to freak out, you should get off. You never know what is going to happen and it's safer for everyone to be dismounted.
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                                • #17
                                  The person that led their horse out of the arena had the right idea in my mind. Unhitch and get out.

                                  Seems like it would help if they had a chute setup outside the arena. Let the horse out the arena gate into the chute and he'll have no place to go and will have to stop.

                                  Imagine the equipment damage and how many of the horses may have had issues after the incident.
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                                  • #18
                                    Yikes, I bet that turned into one EXPENSIVE class for everyone involved.

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                                    • #19
                                      Wow...just wow - my heart was pounding just watching that video.

                                      So it said no person was hurt but the hackney that they kept down...was it's leg broken?

                                      As far as doing anything else...I don't see what could have been done differently. The horses were so beyond reason that they didn't even care who or what they ran into - even the people standing right in the middle close to the announcer's booth were ran into..there was nowhere TO go.

                                      Quite frankly, I thought it may have been a good idea, as some tried, to grab onto an errant rein as the horses were so panicked that they weren't just running themselves out of steam around the outside. They were trying to get close to the other horses and the situation just kept escalating. Sure, it may have resulted in lameness but a situation like that also could have resulted in death...human and horse.
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                                      • #20
                                        Originally posted by Czar View Post

                                        So it said no person was hurt but the hackney that they kept down...was it's leg broken?
                                        Agreed- does anyone know?

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