• Welcome to the Chronicle Forums.
    Please complete your profile. The forums and the rest of www.chronofhorse.com has single sign-in, so your log in information for one will automatically work for the other. Disclaimer: The opinions expressed here are the views of the individual and do not necessarily reflect the views and opinions of The Chronicle of the Horse.



Forum rules and no-advertising policy

As a participant on this forum, it is your responsibility to know and follow our rules. Please read this message in its entirety.

Board Rules

1. You’re responsible for what you say.
As outlined in Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, The Chronicle of the Horse and its affiliates, as well Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd., the developers of vBulletin, are not legally responsible for statements made in the forums.

This is a public forum viewed by a wide spectrum of people, so please be mindful of what you say and who might be reading it—details of personal disputes are likely better handled privately. While posters are legally responsible for their statements, the moderators may in their discretion remove or edit posts that violate these rules. Users have the ability to modify or delete their own messages after posting, but administrators generally will not delete posts, threads or accounts upon request.

Outright inflammatory, vulgar, harassing, malicious or otherwise inappropriate statements and criminal charges unsubstantiated by a reputable news source or legal documentation will not be tolerated and will be dealt with at the discretion of the moderators.

2. Conversations in horse-related forums should be horse-related.
The forums are a wonderful source of information and support for members of the horse community. While it’s understandably tempting to share information or search for input on other topics upon which members might have a similar level of knowledge, members must maintain the focus on horses.

3. Keep conversations productive, on topic and civil.
Discussion and disagreement are inevitable and encouraged; personal insults, diatribes and sniping comments are unproductive and unacceptable. Whether a subject is light-hearted or serious, keep posts focused on the current topic and of general interest to other participants of that thread. Utilize the private message feature or personal email where appropriate to address side topics or personal issues not related to the topic at large.

4. No advertising in the discussion forums.
Posts in the discussion forums directly or indirectly advertising horses, jobs, items or services for sale or wanted will be removed at the discretion of the moderators. Use of the private messaging feature or email addresses obtained through users’ profiles for unsolicited advertising is not permitted.

Company representatives may participate in discussions and answer questions about their products or services, or suggest their products on recent threads if they fulfill the criteria of a query. False "testimonials" provided by company affiliates posing as general consumers are not appropriate, and self-promotion of sales, ad campaigns, etc. through the discussion forums is not allowed.

Paid advertising is available on our classifieds site and through the purchase of banner ads. The tightly monitored Giveaways forum permits free listings of genuinely free horses and items available or wanted (on a limited basis). Items offered for trade are not allowed.

Advertising Policy Specifics
When in doubt of whether something you want to post constitutes advertising, please contact a moderator privately in advance for further clarification. Refer to the following points for general guidelines:

Horses – Only general discussion about the buying, leasing, selling and pricing of horses is permitted. If the post contains, or links to, the type of specific information typically found in a sales or wanted ad, and it’s related to a horse for sale, regardless of who’s selling it, it doesn’t belong in the discussion forums.

Stallions – Board members may ask for suggestions on breeding stallion recommendations. Stallion owners may reply to such queries by suggesting their own stallions, only if their horse fits the specific criteria of the original poster. Excessive promotion of a stallion by its owner or related parties is not permitted and will be addressed at the discretion of the moderators.

Services – Members may use the forums to ask for general recommendations of trainers, barns, shippers, farriers, etc., and other members may answer those requests by suggesting themselves or their company, if their services fulfill the specific criteria of the original post. Members may not solicit other members for business if it is not in response to a direct, genuine query.

Products – While members may ask for general opinions and suggestions on equipment, trailers, trucks, etc., they may not list the specific attributes for which they are in the market, as such posts serve as wanted ads.

Event Announcements – Members may post one notification of an upcoming event that may be of interest to fellow members, if the original poster does not benefit financially from the event. Such threads may not be “bumped” excessively. Premium members may post their own notices in the Event Announcements forum.

Charities/Rescues – Announcements for charitable or fundraising events can only be made for 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organizations. Special exceptions may be made, at the moderators’ discretion and direction, for board-related events or fundraising activities in extraordinary circumstances.

Occasional posts regarding horses available for adoption through IRS-registered horse rescue or placement programs are permitted in the appropriate forums, but these threads may be limited at the discretion of the moderators. Individuals may not advertise or make announcements for horses in need of rescue, placement or adoption unless the horse is available through a recognized rescue or placement agency or government-run entity or the thread fits the criteria for and is located in the Giveaways forum.

5. Do not post copyrighted photographs unless you have purchased that photo and have permission to do so.

6. Respect other members.
As members are often passionate about their beliefs and intentions can easily be misinterpreted in this type of environment, try to explore or resolve the inevitable disagreements that arise in the course of threads calmly and rationally.

If you see a post that you feel violates the rules of the board, please click the “alert” button (exclamation point inside of a triangle) in the bottom left corner of the post, which will alert ONLY the moderators to the post in question. They will then take whatever action, or no action, as deemed appropriate for the situation at their discretion. Do not air grievances regarding other posters or the moderators in the discussion forums.

Please be advised that adding another user to your “Ignore” list via your User Control Panel can be a useful tactic, which blocks posts and private messages by members whose commentary you’d rather avoid reading.

7. We have the right to reproduce statements made in the forums.
The Chronicle of the Horse may copy, quote, link to or otherwise reproduce posts, or portions of posts, in print or online for advertising or editorial purposes, if attributed to their original authors, and by posting in this forum, you hereby grant to The Chronicle of the Horse a perpetual, non-exclusive license under copyright and other rights, to do so.

8. We reserve the right to enforce and amend the rules.
The moderators may delete, edit, move or close any post or thread at any time, or refrain from doing any of the foregoing, in their discretion, and may suspend or revoke a user’s membership privileges at any time to maintain adherence to the rules and the general spirit of the forum. These rules may be amended at any time to address the current needs of the board.

Please see our full Terms of Service and Privacy Policy for more information.

Thanks for being a part of the COTH forums!

(Revised 1/26/16)
See more
See less

Advice needed

  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Advice needed

    My daughter just recently got a new pony. He is a great guy, but has this habit of putting his head down suddenly and pulling her forward. Our trainer is out of town, so I cant get her help at the moment. Any advice? She doesnt ride with a tight rein and Ive had her try making them really loose, but he still does it. He's being ridden in a D ring snaffle.

  • #2
    Well I'm far from a "hunter" per say, but my advice would be: Leg leg leg! Ride him forward into the contact. You definitely don't want to be pulling back on him (not that it sounds from your description like she is), but sometimes that's a reaction. If he pulls, maintain your contact, but ride him forward up "into your hands"... (the idea of riding the horse from back to front etc.)

    Hopefully someone more eloquent than I can explain this better. :-)


    • #3
      I agree. It's hard for me to picture what you're describing, but when he does it I would give a sharp kick or tap with the crop just to remind him to "KEEP going". Is the pony usually pokey?


      • #4
        How often does he do this, and how severely?

        I've ridden some lesson string-type horses that tried to snatch the reins or dive-bomb the ground with their heads just as a bad habit they'd picked up - they knew if they dove their heads down, the rider would get unseated and the horse would get to goof off.

        If "bad habit" is the only cause of the behavior, what I've found very effective is to put on breastplate (a standing martingale works okay, too, or a hunk of mane if necessary) and hold on to the item in question as well as the reins. So dear daughter would be holding on to something solid in the pony's neck area in addition to the reins, making her hands stay steady and motionless (and hopefully allowing her body to do the same!). That way if the pony tries to dive forward, he ends up catching himself and DD stays nice and balanced. Personally I would only do this at the walk, though, and only once or twice to see if the behavior improves once Saintly Pony realizes he can't get away with it anymore - if there is a cause for the behavior other than just bratty-pony-itis, fixing the reins/hands like this could make the pony even madder, and escalate the bad behavior. So you do need to be careful. If DD is doing something to make the pony mad, you don't want to make matters any worse.

        How long is the trainer gone? Can you just wait to ride the pony till he/she gets back in town?


        • #5
          Grazing reins.

          Problem solved (at least until trainer gets back in town and can help). Pony is immediately punished when, and only when, he's a brat and tries to pull the reins away.


          • #6
            Definitely grazing reins


            • #7
              I third the grazing reins, if your daughter is not strong enough or aware enough to ward of being yanked forward. Once he has been allow to do that to her, he will keep doing it til corrected.
              Grazing reins attach to the bit, go up through a crownpiece that has rings on the sides (the rings are places at the sides of the juncture of crown and browband) and then run to the dee rings on the saddle. They act like a driving overcheck to keep the horse from getting it's head down. One can also fasion grazing reins from baling twine in a pinch....it's a great old Pony Club trick to help those kids whose ponies take advantage of them.
              What would you try if you knew you would not fail?


              • #8
                Helping the kid is the most important thing so riding on a loose rein and using the grazing reins is the immediate fix.

                In defense of the horse - I have a horse like that - well, one of my students does - his history is of being ridden first in a gag when someone started him and I have had him on a simple snaffle and had his teeth done every year - the new owner (I bought him to get him away from the last owner and then trained him further and sold him to a client/rider) - she is 11 but got him when she was barely ten and I spent this year re-teaching her nto to yank and to help offset board - she lets me use him for lessons - he is great with little kids. I am one of those instructors who makes kids ride off their seat and leg and use little rein but they all cant help it - they still have to turn the horse and will sometimes bang the mouth even with the reins pretty long. For safety reasons, I cant put them on no reins..... though in the roundpen I can.... I am on a tangent...

                But point is - he stretches to the ground because he is used to his mouth getting some abuse. This is why we all Hail the Lesson Ponies and they get a special place in Heaven. It makes teaching difficult though so it has to be stopped but I still want to defend that they are not doing ti because they are just nasty little brats - ahorse is just a horse and does what he feels he needs to do to protect himself (and sometimes - a lot of times - inertly wants to do as little as he has to but that is just nature I think - we have to teach and ask them to work for that hour - it really still comes back to the horse's leader - US the riders.... again - Hail the Lesson Ponies because the beginner riders are stinky leaders!).


                • #9
                  Ditto the grazing reins. Invented specially for ponies.


                  • #10
                    Another vote for grazing reins


                    • #11
                      I've met very few ponies who don't do this once in a while. All of my ponies live in grazing reins everywhere but in the show ring. The young ones wear them so they never learn to do it and the old ones to prevent them from doing it. It's an awful habit and ponies pick it up easily because the kids are too weak to do anything about it. Have you ever watched the lineup in a short stirrup class? Every pony stands there pulling the reins while every horse stands there like an angel. Ponies are just stinkers. www.justforponies.com has grazing reins and they are very fast about shipping. You can make one in the meantime out of bailing twine.