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Help needed for stopping Rearing 6 year old Mare

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  • Help needed for stopping Rearing 6 year old Mare

    I have a QH 6 year old mare, who is very nice EXCEPT she can become beligerant on the trails. She follows behind fine. Today, when I let her lead, she refused to move forward. She reared 3 times, and I panicked. I try to turn her. The lady that I was riding with moved forward in front and my mare followed. Then I moved out in front again, and she tried the same crapola. I turned her in a circle and yelled and took he other end of he fly whisp and tapped her. She didn' rear, but he same stuff was repeated another time. I am scared o death or riding her alone on the trail ever. When she stops, I use my legs, then stick and she just stands and if I try to get her going, she just rears. Please help, do I need to send her to a trainer or sell her? She may need a stronger rider, otherwise she is very quiet normally. There is nothing wrong with her back. My friend will try ride her in front on the next trail ride.....She is a new horse for me.... had her about 4 months now.

  • #2
    You need an aggressive rider on her, some one who is not going to put up with her crap. It sounds like she already has your number and she will continue to behave this way.
    Some horses don't like to lead and will put up a fuss, when asked to do so. Your horse needs to understand that forward, means go now. She's testing you to see if she can have it her way (following the other horse).
    Find somebody who can get her passed this ASAP. The longer it you allow it, the worse it's going to get.
    I have a feeling a few good rides by an experienced rider, will set her straight.


    • #3
      She's ringing your number. They catch on quickly if they feel you're not confident/are nervous etc. Try to set yourself up for success. Do some research in your area and find a trainer that will work with her and you, maybe with you on a different horse at least for awhile for confidence/balance/technique. Rearing is a very dangerous thing to let her do. It sounds like she needs more mileage with a confident rider. Also, you may be holding her too tightly in the mouth while kicking her on, which would confuse her, but it sounds like a trainer/instructor is the way to go.

      Good luck!


      • #4
        Yup, you need some help here. Find a trainer nearby who can rider her for 30 days or so and then take some lessons. Otherwise, sorry, but you need to sell her.

        She will hurt you and her prospects for a happy life diminish greatly if she gets good at this. You need to either get help or sell her pronto.
        When opportunity knocks it's wearing overalls and looks like work.

        The horse world. Two people. Three opinions.


        • Original Poster

          [QUOTE=Queen Latisha;4197517]Your horse needs to understand that forward, means go now.

          So in the meantime, is there ground and/or riding excercises to get her to respect me in between? Also, what would you do if you she stopped and did not respond at all to the leg, and also if a horse rears?


          • #6
            If I knew I had this problem I would not ride this horse. Find a reputable trainer. Yes, there are ground exercises that you can do for respect but that's a whole 'nuther issue. The rearing is VERY dangerous --- period. It should be dealt with by an experienced rider. No quick fix here. I don't want to see you get hurt.


            • #7
              Some horses are very shy about being alone or in front, and it takes some practice for them to learn how to lead. Others are bad when in back!

              I've had one of each. Because she's rearing, I would agree a trainer might be the best route.

              If you are otherwise a confident rider, you can teach her to lead by practicing. Here's how we did it with my two (one hated being first, the other hated being last, so it was a great thing to practice). I'll be honest - the shy mare who doesn't like to go first will go first or alone now if she knows the trail, but she will stop and hesitate sometimes if there's something new or strange, or if she doesn't know the way. In that situation we don't go into "full attack mode" but just gently keep asking for a step forward at a time. She's 18 years old and never rode on a trail until two years ago. If you start whacking and yelling, she just gets freaked out and thinks she was right to be worried! We have all day. If she needs five minutes to get up the courage to walk by a log or cross a ditch, that's fine. Next time she'll be twice as brave. If we beat her over it, she'll be really worried next time we come to that spot.

              Get a friend and ride in the ring first, then in a big pasture, and then on an easy trail. Play leap frog. Start with your mare in back. Have your friend in front. Your friend halts, you walk past her, then you halt, then she walks past you. Repeat til it's really boring. Then go do it in the pasture. Then go do it around the outside of the pasture or other place around the barn. Then do the same except you walk, and the last person trots past, then walks, then the other person trots past, then walks. Repeat til it's so boring you can't stand it in the ring, then in the pasture, then around an easy place outside around the farm. Do it with two or three people. Do it so often your horse realizes its' just a game, and fun, and not a big deal.

              When you are most confident and have that all down, do trot-canter leapfrog.

              Be very careful that you aren't hanging on the horse's mouth when she stops or worries - she will feel that tension and worry more, and it can encourage the rearing. Try to keep a "lovely day in the country" attitude and patience all the time. Let your body and attitude tell her "this is a fun thing to do, and there's nothing to be afraid of." And let her gain confidence over many months. She's a pretty young horse, and probably inexperienced with trail riding. It's not necessarily something a horse knows how to do just by being born!


              • #8
                Originally posted by Queen Latisha View Post
                Your horse needs to understand that forward, means go now.

                So in the meantime, is there ground and/or riding excercises to get her to respect me in between? Also, what would you do if you she stopped and did not respond at all to the leg, and also if a horse rears?
                First I would ride with a crop and when the horse refused to go forward, she would get a whack. If she reared on me, I would turn her head and when she landed, she would get another whack to move forward.
                It appears this mare knows, she is scaring you when she rears.
                I don't know your riding level and rearing can be dangerous. Right now, I wouldn't put her in a position to rear. By not correcting her, she may start becoming more aggressive with her behavior.
                You need to find a pro or a good rider who can ride through the rear and get your horse moving forward.
                She needs to be taught this behavior is unacceptable.


                • #9
                  No help on the rearing.

                  I have seen a lot of riders love the horses they can't ride, they are overmounted.

                  You need to:
                  1. Sink money into a pro and this rearing problem may also come back a few months after she returns from the trainer.
                  2. Sell her and find something you love, and love riding!

                  Please don't rider her alone on the trails, for obvious reasons.

                  Be safe, so you can ride for years to come.


                  • #10
                    Some horses just don't like to trail in the front or alone. They are not confident enough and she is young and doesn't have the experience or rider that she needs to help her. I don't believe in trail riding alone. At all. Even if its the deadest horse in the world. Its just to dangerous. That being said you can try a trainer but it may not work because some horses just won't do it.
                    Horses aren't our whole life, but makes our life whole


                    • #11
                      IMO if someone is going online to ask for help with rearing, that person is not qualified to tackle the problem themselves!

                      Honestly, if you don't know what to do, you should NOT be trying to fix this yourself. Rearing is incredibly dangerous. Find a professional to help you! DO NOT WORK ON THIS BY YOURSELF.


                      • #12
                        Life is too short to ride horses that rear...
                        * What you release is what you teach * Don't be distracted by unwanted behavior* Whoever waits the longest is the teacher. Van Hargis


                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Madeline View Post
                          Life is too short to ride horses that rear...
                          Agreed, there's too many nice horse out there. It only took me 10 years of riding a rearer, to realise that fact.


                          • #14
                            Is this a trail horse ridden in western tack? Or a H/J horse you are trying to ride down the trail? I am a bit confused as to why this is posted here.


                            • Original Poster

                              Thanks to everone...

                              I am taking her Thursday back to the Amish Trainer for 2 weeks at least, to work with her and also with me...Thanks for everyone's help. He was able to ride her OK, if she isn't going to work out for me, she will be for sale to a more competent rider.. She is very quiet in the ring, and a novice could rider her, this is situational on the trails, but needs to nipped in the bud...Thanks


                              • Original Poster

                                Rearing Horse, Problem is Now Resolved

                                Just want to let you know, that I have resolved the issue with my Mare, she is no longer rearing, after bringing to the Amish for 2 weeks training, and learning how to disengage the hindend. Kicking a stopped horse doesn't do anything, I have learned. Also key was using a dressage whip to tap behind the leg, in conjuction with a leading rein and inside leg....it was a matter of showing who is charge with respect and trust...thanks to everyone who took the time to write in for advice. I am now riding her alone in the fields behind my house. She is turning out to be very nice, I just hope she stays that way.


                                • #17
                                  Flip her over once....she won't do it again.


                                  • #18
                                    Originally posted by TheHunterKid90 View Post
                                    Flip her over once....she won't do it again.
                                    And neither will you, with your broken pelvis and paralyzed spine!


                                    • #19
                                      Originally posted by twofatponies View Post
                                      And neither will you, with your broken pelvis and paralyzed spine!
                                      Really! What kind of advice is that?

                                      Sorry! I have had it happen and I am lucky...my stirrup, which I had kicked free when I realized this was not going to end well was squished from it's bell shape to a crushed mess.

                                      The horse was fine and I was too although a bit sore.


                                      • #20
                                        I believe hunterkid means not on the horses back. But still its not the best thing to do and is really the old cowboy way. There are ways of dealing with it without trying to break the horses neck And also hunterkid I had a rearer that had flipped himself over PLENTY of times, he never learned. He was taught to be a roper and when he felt pressure it meant back up fast. So thats what he'd do. Thank God he never hurt himself and now that he is retired here with me he's my big dog and hasn't done it in 3 years now.
                                        Horses aren't our whole life, but makes our life whole