• Welcome to the Chronicle Forums.
    Please complete your profile. The forums and the rest of www.chronofhorse.com has single sign-in, so your log in information for one will automatically work for the other. Disclaimer: The opinions expressed here are the views of the individual and do not necessarily reflect the views and opinions of The Chronicle of the Horse.



Forum rules and no-advertising policy

As a participant on this forum, it is your responsibility to know and follow our rules. Please read this message in its entirety.

Board Rules

1. You’re responsible for what you say.
As outlined in Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, The Chronicle of the Horse and its affiliates, as well Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd., the developers of vBulletin, are not legally responsible for statements made in the forums.

This is a public forum viewed by a wide spectrum of people, so please be mindful of what you say and who might be reading it—details of personal disputes are likely better handled privately. While posters are legally responsible for their statements, the moderators may in their discretion remove or edit posts that violate these rules. Users have the ability to modify or delete their own messages after posting, but administrators generally will not delete posts, threads or accounts upon request.

Outright inflammatory, vulgar, harassing, malicious or otherwise inappropriate statements and criminal charges unsubstantiated by a reputable news source or legal documentation will not be tolerated and will be dealt with at the discretion of the moderators.

2. Conversations in horse-related forums should be horse-related.
The forums are a wonderful source of information and support for members of the horse community. While it’s understandably tempting to share information or search for input on other topics upon which members might have a similar level of knowledge, members must maintain the focus on horses.

3. Keep conversations productive, on topic and civil.
Discussion and disagreement are inevitable and encouraged; personal insults, diatribes and sniping comments are unproductive and unacceptable. Whether a subject is light-hearted or serious, keep posts focused on the current topic and of general interest to other participants of that thread. Utilize the private message feature or personal email where appropriate to address side topics or personal issues not related to the topic at large.

4. No advertising in the discussion forums.
Posts in the discussion forums directly or indirectly advertising horses, jobs, items or services for sale or wanted will be removed at the discretion of the moderators. Use of the private messaging feature or email addresses obtained through users’ profiles for unsolicited advertising is not permitted.

Company representatives may participate in discussions and answer questions about their products or services, or suggest their products on recent threads if they fulfill the criteria of a query. False "testimonials" provided by company affiliates posing as general consumers are not appropriate, and self-promotion of sales, ad campaigns, etc. through the discussion forums is not allowed.

Paid advertising is available on our classifieds site and through the purchase of banner ads. The tightly monitored Giveaways forum permits free listings of genuinely free horses and items available or wanted (on a limited basis). Items offered for trade are not allowed.

Advertising Policy Specifics
When in doubt of whether something you want to post constitutes advertising, please contact a moderator privately in advance for further clarification. Refer to the following points for general guidelines:

Horses – Only general discussion about the buying, leasing, selling and pricing of horses is permitted. If the post contains, or links to, the type of specific information typically found in a sales or wanted ad, and it’s related to a horse for sale, regardless of who’s selling it, it doesn’t belong in the discussion forums.

Stallions – Board members may ask for suggestions on breeding stallion recommendations. Stallion owners may reply to such queries by suggesting their own stallions, only if their horse fits the specific criteria of the original poster. Excessive promotion of a stallion by its owner or related parties is not permitted and will be addressed at the discretion of the moderators.

Services – Members may use the forums to ask for general recommendations of trainers, barns, shippers, farriers, etc., and other members may answer those requests by suggesting themselves or their company, if their services fulfill the specific criteria of the original post. Members may not solicit other members for business if it is not in response to a direct, genuine query.

Products – While members may ask for general opinions and suggestions on equipment, trailers, trucks, etc., they may not list the specific attributes for which they are in the market, as such posts serve as wanted ads.

Event Announcements – Members may post one notification of an upcoming event that may be of interest to fellow members, if the original poster does not benefit financially from the event. Such threads may not be “bumped” excessively. Premium members may post their own notices in the Event Announcements forum.

Charities/Rescues – Announcements for charitable or fundraising events can only be made for 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organizations. Special exceptions may be made, at the moderators’ discretion and direction, for board-related events or fundraising activities in extraordinary circumstances.

Occasional posts regarding horses available for adoption through IRS-registered horse rescue or placement programs are permitted in the appropriate forums, but these threads may be limited at the discretion of the moderators. Individuals may not advertise or make announcements for horses in need of rescue, placement or adoption unless the horse is available through a recognized rescue or placement agency or government-run entity or the thread fits the criteria for and is located in the Giveaways forum.

5. Do not post copyrighted photographs unless you have purchased that photo and have permission to do so.

6. Respect other members.
As members are often passionate about their beliefs and intentions can easily be misinterpreted in this type of environment, try to explore or resolve the inevitable disagreements that arise in the course of threads calmly and rationally.

If you see a post that you feel violates the rules of the board, please click the “alert” button (exclamation point inside of a triangle) in the bottom left corner of the post, which will alert ONLY the moderators to the post in question. They will then take whatever action, or no action, as deemed appropriate for the situation at their discretion. Do not air grievances regarding other posters or the moderators in the discussion forums.

Please be advised that adding another user to your “Ignore” list via your User Control Panel can be a useful tactic, which blocks posts and private messages by members whose commentary you’d rather avoid reading.

7. We have the right to reproduce statements made in the forums.
The Chronicle of the Horse may copy, quote, link to or otherwise reproduce posts, or portions of posts, in print or online for advertising or editorial purposes, if attributed to their original authors, and by posting in this forum, you hereby grant to The Chronicle of the Horse a perpetual, non-exclusive license under copyright and other rights, to do so.

8. We reserve the right to enforce and amend the rules.
The moderators may delete, edit, move or close any post or thread at any time, or refrain from doing any of the foregoing, in their discretion, and may suspend or revoke a user’s membership privileges at any time to maintain adherence to the rules and the general spirit of the forum. These rules may be amended at any time to address the current needs of the board.

Please see our full Terms of Service and Privacy Policy for more information.

Thanks for being a part of the COTH forums!

(Revised 1/26/16)
See more
See less

Any one care to critique?

  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Any one care to critique?

    I figured it was time to throw myself out there to be critiqued. Feel free to rip me to shreds.

    A little background: This is my large pony. I show in the Childrens Hunter Ponies and Childrens Eq. We have been to hell and back together. He didn't jump when I got him. It was wet out when these pics were taken, hence the little fences. I tend to do this funky leg thing when I have to squeeze really hard to keep him going. He is kinda lazy. Even with spurs and a crop. Im working on getting him to move away from my leg. Feel free to rip me to shreds. Any tips to help us would be great. I know Im to big for him, he is up for sale. So hopefully I can get a larger horse soon.



    http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/a...dyfunkyleg.jpg My weird leg thing

    http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/a...orangejump.jpg Laying on my right side a little bit

  • #2
    Definitely work on strengthening your leg and sinking your weight down. You're kind of laying on your pony's neck too. Work on really waiting for him to jump (And boy do I know about jumping ahead ) That being said the picture is at an odd angle so I could be wrong lol. VERY cute pony btw!
    No hour of life is wasted that is spent in the saddle. ~Winston Churchill
    For Hope, For Strength, For Life-Delta Gamma
    www.etsy.com/shop/joiedevivrecrafts Custom Wreaths and Other Decorations


    • #3
      Please include some photos of your flatting him. I'd be able to comment more then.


      • #4
        Hmm...I looked at all 4 pictures and I do not think the OP is laying on her pony's neck or jumping ahead. Her hip angle may be a little more closed in the last two but her base of support still seems behind her pony.

        Your leg is *slightly* behind where it could be which is most likely b/c you are tall for your mount - try thinking about sticking your leg forward over the jump.
        \"Don\'t go throwing effort after foolishness\" >>>Spur, Man From Snowy River


        • #5
          I wish you could shorten your stirrups 1 to 2 holes, but you are already to tall for the pony, so you would just be thrown out of the tack. Because your stirrups are long, your leg slides back and it pushes your upper body forward(in the 3rd picture you really appear to be laying on your ponys neck) Also, watch your wrists, in the 1st picture they were broken. As for your leg *issue*. It appears as if you really are using your heels to push him over the fence, like you said. The main problem is your height, as you have to push your leg back and toe out to maintain contact with his side. Overall you look like a soft, effective rider to me.
          Your pony is adorable and bet he would crack his back over larger fences. Good luck selling him and finding a new horse!! Hope that helped and wasn't confusing
          Theater Majors only: Lead swap, lead swap, wherefore art thou, lead swap?


          • #6
            I think some times riders try too hard to create the proper leg position, and that appears to me to be what is causing your "weird leg thing"

            If you trying too hard to maintain lower leg contact it is natural to twist your toe out. Same thing you do when you are really trying to get a horse to move of your leg. This however tends to reduce your actual leg contact because the actual lower leg surface area on your horse is reduced, and your knee ends up separating from the horse.

            Really try to sink down into your stirrups, and maintain calf contact, think of it as trying to envelope your horse body. Another thing we tend to do is to use way too much leg. Contact is one thing, constantly squeezing a horse with your leg is another. There should always be leg contact, but the pressure applied should only increase as an aid, when you are asking something with your leg, otherwise you want consistent steady contact. You should be trying to have that happy medium of contact where you can always increase/decrease leg pressure so your horse understands what you are asking.

            The other thing I am seeing is very common. You are not jumping forward, but you are not waiting for him to jump as much as you should. I am sure you have heard this before, "the horse jumps, not you" You need to let the horse fold and unfold you over a fence, you should not really have to do anything other then get him there.

            When you actually let the horse unfold/fold you your position should pretty much stay the same as it was prior to the fence. The horse begins to jump, lifts his front end and closes your position, as he reaches the apex of his jump your should almost be back at square one, the position you were in before the jump, and as he descends he will open up your position, and in a lesser degree he will do it all over again as he lands and takes his first stride. All this and you really did nothing more than sit there!! I always benefited from seeing the jump as nothing more than an exaggerated canter stride. You never ride the canter, you let it move you, same goes for jumping. As the fences get bigger and the horse makes greater efforts your position is more influenced by the horse jump, but still, your only function is to stay balanced, and out of the way of the horse.

            Other these two things I think you look like a pretty tight little rider. I especially love that your pictures express a really nice soft hand. This is one of the hardest things to truly teach someone, and you seem to have it naturally.

            Start working on that auto release!!


            • #7
              No critique here....when can I pick him up??


              • #8
                Originally posted by Hauwse View Post
                The horse begins to jump, lifts his front end and closes your position, as he reaches the apex of his jump your should almost be back at square one, the position you were in before the jump, !
                Really? I would expect someone to be over top of their horse at the apex of the jump not starting to sit up.

                I see your explanation when it comes to jumpers but it seems if you stayed that far back over a hunter fence, you would not allow your horse to finish the jump properly.

                I was just watching the AO hunters at a show this morning and there was a brilliantly jumping mare whose rider kept getting slightly left behind and it was b/c she stopped riding midway through the air and was not following her horse. It really interrupted the flow I thought.

                I think with a really good jumping hunter, a rider needs to think a little more about staying with the jump.
                \"Don\'t go throwing effort after foolishness\" >>>Spur, Man From Snowy River


                • #9
                  Hi there,
                  Super cute pony. IMHO you really aren't all that big on him. I think people are too used to seeing tiny people on over sized mounts.

                  It does look like when you're trying tp push him you're trying to grip with the back of your leg. This is something that is fixed with proper flat work. your leg means GO, it means go NOW, not in 4,5, 6 strides. I'm glad that you recognize this as a problem and are working to correct it.
                  You know, if you took this jello, put it in a mold and froze it, you could be like look....an emerald. Dude, I'd kick some guys ass he ever tried to give me a jello ring.


                  • #10
                    What a cute pony! I think that you are not to too big for him, however if you grew much taller you may want to consider a larger mount.
                    In my opinion you are most definitely gripping far too much with your calf muscle/heel, most likely in an effort to drive your pony forward. Although I am no GM, I would recomend going back to a lot of flatwork with your trainer. Possibly close your hip angle a tad and balance your pony by staying firm in your heel, not gripping with the back of your calf.

                    In your first two photos I really really love your upper body position. Although mostly in your second photo, a longer release would be appropriate. I do realize that being a bit too big for your pony would make this difficult. However, in your bottom two photos I feel you are leaning on your pony's neck, making his ability to round himself up and over the jump difficult.

                    In additon, to address your ponies "laziness" I would start the ride by asking nicely with your lower leg. If you recieve no response, ONE firm swift cropping will drive him forward. However if you tap your pony repeatedly, you will soon find your pony to be quite dull to both your leg and your crop. There is nothing worse to ride than a dull sided pony. Therefore, one firm telling in the begining of your ride should be adequate to get your pony off your leg and forward forward forward.

                    Best of luck to you and your pony!