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  • Edgewood bridle - "nubs" on the leather?

    So...as my big bday gift...I received an Edgewood bridle last year.

    I had purchased close-out reins (both laced and curb/flat) made from the old Sedgwick leather that is now too thick for their machines and use those with this headstall that is made from whatever they currently make their goods out of.

    I oiled with maybe 2-3 lights coats of Hydrophane darkening oil and simply wipe down after each use with high quality glycerine. I like the bridle a lot, but it seems to have these "nubs" on the sides and the back of the leather. Like kinda color discoloration...but more dimensional. I keep wanting to take my sponge and scrub them off...but they don't come off (just get slick and smooth down). Anyone else have this happen? Maybe it is dirt build up or maybe it is something with the leather?

    The reins made of the other type of leather do not have this on them. They are smooth on all sides.

  • #2
    I have not had this problem with my Edgewood. I disagree with wiping down with glycerine after riding though. Glycerine is to be used for conditioning/sealing and should be used after a thorough cleaning. If you want to just wipe off your bridle when you're done just use a damp sponge or something like Effax Leder Combi, otherwise you're sealing the dirt into the leather, maybe that's what is causing the problem.

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    • #3
      You may be looking at two inherent features of the leather Edgewood used. When the leather was skin, it had connective tissue that attached it to underlying muscle. The "grain" of that can be more and less fine depending on the breed and part of the animal from which the leather was cut.

      This nubbly layer is also removed by shaving off the underside of the leather during the tanning process. So very thick pieces of leather with "nubs" that seem made out of leather themselves are coarse bits of fascia that were not removed.

      These thick, nubbly-backed pieces of leather also can sometimes seem very soft and have a tendency to seem "wavy" on top. Does that describe yours?

      In any case, if I have identified your nubs, I think you are stuck with these. As you use the reins and tack, however, they will lie down a bit and over a long period of time perhaps wear down with friction.

      All in all, I wouldn't worry about it if you got a deal on the reins. If you paid full price, I'd ask Edgewood for a different set.
      The armchair saddler
      Politically Pro-Cat

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      • Original Poster

        #4
        The "nubs" I'm finding are on the new bridle (with the new type of leather)...

        The reins are of the older type of leather are fine.

        Would the nubs you are describing pick up oil differently than the rest of the leather? These nubs ARE soft and they are much lighter than the other areas. You know how suede has a nap to it? That is kinda more like what this is like. On the edges and on the back of the leather. Like it is rough...while the rest of the leather (on top) is smooth?

        Is that normal?

        (Sorry - my other bridles have all been from other manufacturers - and typically both sides of the leather piece seem to be the same smoothness.)

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        • #5
          I'm glad someone else has brought this up. I thought my Edgewood was the only one that had these. I paid full price on a new one and after oily it a few times I notice these "nubs" also. Mine are more like shreds of leather. The bridle is beautiful but on the underside of the reins it has these shreds. It just kind of makes it look cheap as far as I'm concerned. I'm not sure I would buy another one after this.

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          • #6
            It sounds as though the edges and back of the bridle leather wasn't finished properly and they left some roughness on the leather, if that makes sense. Since you paid full price for the bridle (I think Edgewood now uses Wicket & Craig leather) I would complain and ask for a new one. Where did you buy it? Any good tack shop should be willing to do an exchange for you.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by happyhorse3 View Post
              Mine are more like shreds of leather.
              Mine too, and I agree it makes the bridle appear cheap. And I also paid full price for mine.

              I bought a new bridle recently and avoided Edgewoods because of this. The nubs are annoying and I'm not paying hundreds of dollars for them.

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              • #8
                How about just taking some sandpaper & smoothing down the nubs on the sides & backside of the leather?

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                • #9
                  Edgewood is Wickett and Craig leather now, an American tanned cowhide.
                  Having 3 Sedgwick hides here of my own, I have neither nubs nor discolorations in any of them, but I am buying the top quality butts. ???
                  Proud to have two Takaupa Gold line POAs!
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                  • #10
                    Did Edgewood switch to a cheaper type of leather? My friend bought 2 bridles from the outlet and the leather won't darken to havana. I tried, and tried, and nothing. It still has the reddish tone. Though the new type of leather doesn't appear to have as much stretch. Other problem is that the lacing on the reins won't seem to darken at all. So nice chesnut bridle and bright orange reins. Yuck!!

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                    • Original Poster

                      #11
                      My bridle also has that "red" tone to it and it is the "new" leather.

                      Reins, on the other hand - made of the "old" leather - are a nice, rich, dark chocolately brown.

                      I only oiled it lightly 2-3 with Hydrophane darkening oil - just kinda waiting for it to naturally darken on its own...but it is staying pretty red.

                      Can't say I'm all that impressed with this bridle - not sure I would buy Edgewood again for the price.

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                      • #12
                        All of you having problems with your Edgewoods, I'm surprised you have not complained to the shop you bought it at, they are much too expensive to just let it go and be unhappy with your purchase. Bridles are a big investment and you should not be satisfied with a less than acceptable product.

                        I bought my Edgewood from Farmhouse Tack this winter, paid full price and it is beautiful, I have had none of the problems you have experienced and it has darkened beautifully, I wouldn't hesitate to buy another.

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                        • #13
                          Isn't there two types of Edgewood now? The original mostly high end bridle and then a less expensive version?
                          Your crazy is showing. You might want to tuck that back in.

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                          • #14
                            DMK, there used to be at least two and maybe three different Edgewood lines (from what I have read on older threads), the Original being the high end bridles, Artisan was the lesser quality. I think they may have discontinued the cheaper lines though, at least I never hear about them anymore. Farmhouse Tack could tell you though, they have a very complete Edgewood inventory.

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                            • #15
                              I wonder if the problem is with old inventory of the less expensive version? That might explain why some people are seeing the problem and others are not.

                              I mostly have Hadfields bridles, but I did just convert my young horse's HB bridle to a padded noseband/browband. Edgewood was a bit cheaper to make that conversion (he's a cob now, I suspect he will finish as a horse, then I will decide if he still needs a padded bridle) and I know it darkens up as compatible with Hadfields, so I picked up the noseband from Farmhouse when I was at Conyers. No problems with that noseband!
                              Your crazy is showing. You might want to tuck that back in.

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                              • #16
                                You may be right DMK, I could have bought my Edgewood for less money elsewhere but decided to go with Farmhouse knowing their excellent customer service should I ever have a problem. Now I'm glad I paid a little bit more for my bridle, at least I got a good quality product.

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                                • #17
                                  I am pretty sure the leather you guys are referring to is the Wickett and Craig. It is tanned here in the USA and is the closest to drum dyed as we can get over here. I have samples and chose NOT to use it in my strapgoods. I don't like the color or the feel. It is in no way like Walsall tanned hides.
                                  It may be a run of the hides they are using (there are different grades of each hide, too). I use only butts. What you have may be cut from a whole side, I don't know??
                                  Proud to have two Takaupa Gold line POAs!
                                  Takaupas Top Gold
                                  Gifts Black Gold Knight

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                                  • #18
                                    Originally posted by Lori View Post
                                    I am pretty sure the leather you guys are referring to is the Wickett and Craig. It is tanned here in the USA and is the closest to drum dyed as we can get over here.
                                    Off the subject slightly but I recently bought a Walsh halter that said it was made from Wickett and Craig leather. Its not the first Walsh halter I have bought but I don't remember them ever carrying a W & C hangtag. It looks and feels like other Walsh halters though and after oiling its beautifully dark and supple.

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