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Some people just make me want to scream: A rant.

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  • Some people just make me want to scream: A rant.

    So today I'm at the ring, on my horse, learning my course for my medal class, and I smell smoke. First thought: shit where's the fire?! but it's raining! And then I turn around and it hits me: someone is smoking a cigarette. And this person is mounted, and about to go in the ring to show.

    Ok, really, I don't care if you smoke. I really don't (because I've been known to on a few occasions; don't tell my mom...). But really? On your horse?! You are REALLY going to subject your horse, my horse and everyone else's horses to that at the in-gate? Do you smoke in your shedrow too, around all those shavings and all that hay? Not to even mention that CO has had one of the driest winters we've ever had and despite the shitty weather the past few weekends, it's still dry here!!

    Ugghhhh take your habit somewhere other than the barn, and off your horse!!!!!

    Sorry. That's my rant for today. I really couldn't give 2 shits about my own health, but my horses' lungs/health/well being is paramount. (ETA: And yes, I did walk away. I'd learn my course later!)

  • #2
    Huh. The barn I was at previously, the owner smoked in the barn!!! No kidding, I have vivid memories of the horse I was having vetted (and didn't buy) trying to grab the Marlboro Menthol package through the feed chute.

    I feel your pain...

    Last edited by tikihorse2; May. 10, 2009, 04:35 PM. Reason: bolding didn't work
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    • #3
      Feel your pain. Barn I used to ride at, had a guy that would come out of the barn bathroom smoking. Good times...


      • #4
        It amazes me how many people in the horse world smoke. I am a non-smoker, and can't stand the smell. Whenever I see someone at a show smoking, I always wonder how good their insurance is if they catch the whole barn on fire.
        A proud friend of bar.ka.


        • #5
          Drives me nuts too! i don't smoke, and if you smoke i'm not going to hate you, i have friends that smoke--but please, don't smoke in a freaking BARN or ON A HORSE!! I have to wonder sometimes, when I see a trainer or owner of a barn walking around a dry place, all the shavings, hay, cobwebs and solid wood of a barn, smoking a cigarette, I think to myself: wow, they must have some pretty great insurance/great lawyer (if it's someone else's barn, like at a show) !

          Blitz <3 & Leap of Faith <3


          • #6
            And what does the person on the horse do when entering the ring? I am sure the butt is just dropped on the ground probably still burning!


            • #7
              I just wait for the moment when the ash falls on the horses neck...... that will fix their problem from smoking ON the horse.


              • #8
                That drives me crazy!! There is one lady at my barn who will smoke sitting on her horse or holding her horse! Whatever she can do what she wants, I just walk away, but it bothers me that people who smoke in a group of people just assume it won't affect them. A few years ago I was at a big indoor show, and there were people smoking in our barn! This is a huge building with millions of dollars of horses and tack in it. We found the security and they talked to them, we didn't want our horses dying in a fire. With all the hay and shavings in there the place would of burnt fast..


                • #9
                  I very seriously threatened to hose a trainer (not mine) in the barn with a lit cigarette one time at a show. Was stopped just in the nick of time - well for the trainer anyway. I do smoke - outside the barn, away from the horses, etc. That's just plain ole common sense.
                  And nothing bad happened!


                  • #10
                    I know a barn owner who smokes. Only in the barn doorways, but in his cars, house, on tractors etc. It's HIS farm. No one else is allowed to do this. But ON a horse? At a SHOW? Talk about show nerves? Haha.

                    Basically, ew gross, unsafe, major fail.
                    Do not take anything to heart. Do not hanker after signs of progress. Founder of the Riders with Fibromyalgia clique.


                    • #11
                      I once boarded at a barn where the owner smoked. Everywhere. In the barn, on her horses, in the hay storage stalls, just everywhere. While I respect her right to do what she wants on her property, I don't respect her right to do something so blantently careless with my horse in the barn.

                      I left very quickly. I was willing to sacrifice the convenience of the close location over the safety of my horse.


                      • #12
                        My trainer's barn is not a high dollar facility. There is not a big staff on hand to keep the place spotless. In addition to boarders, there is a public lesson program, so you get a good number of beginners with totally non-horsey families.

                        And NO ONE smokes at the barn.

                        When DD was just a beginner, the assistant trainer did smoke (former student of Trainer Lady who aged out and turned pro). Trainer Lady was OK with her smoking - in her car, with the windows up. Even in summertime. Only place it was allowed. Them were the rules, and I never saw a violation. I can't imagine what Trainer Lady would do with a client who was smoking on. their. horse. But I suspect they'd turn into an ex-client in a hurry, bad economy or no bad economy.
                        Incredible Invisible


                        • #13
                          At my old barn the owner and her daughter both smoked everywhere in the barn, and the daughter did on her horses all the time, on her super expensive horses. They also let all of the boarders smoke wherever they wanted. I'm glad my horse is out of there.


                          • #14
                            I'm just thinking none of you were around in the '70's.....


                            • #15
                              This is so crazy....of all the things that go on with horses and the way they are treated you are complaining about smoke at the in-gate? How about oven cleaner under boots and the endless circles. The trainers who lie and steal? If that is all it takes for you not to be able to focus on your course I hope you are in my division, Ill light one just for you on your outside line, will you miss? You need to grow up. Smoking in the barn of course not, but get a grip!!!


                              • #16
                                I could care less if someone smokes as long as it is not around me. They have a right to smoke but they don't have the right to stand next to me and pollute the air I'm breathing.

                                Smoking in the barn? Better not and I don't care who you are I will walk right up to you, pluck the death stick from your mouth, extinguish it and proceed to give you a verbal beating that you will never forget.

                                I know it is not right, but I veiw smokers as having less common sense and poorer judgement versus non smokers.


                                • #17
                                  I smoked for a long time, especially right out of college at my first couple of horse jobs. I never smoked in the barn, always out in the driveway, or in my car. But it wasn't unusual for me to smoke at the ingate of a show watching a student jump around, etc. Never on horseback.

                                  I now lease a farm, and have a strict no smoking policy on the entire property. I once had a perspective boarder tell me they would not move in because I wouldn't allow her to smoke on the property. I thought that was absurd - but I am glad she didn't move in, as I am sure it would have become a boundary she would have tested at some point - and it wouldn't have ended well!
                                  Lesley M. Jenks
                                  Finally Farm ~ Located at Yates Mill Farm
                                  Raleigh, NC


                                  • #18
                                    lol at all the Quebec horse shows i went to last year, most people would be warming up their horses either talking on their cells or with a cig hanging out their mouths.
                                    really attractive


                                    • #19
                                      Given your location I think I know exactly who you're talking about. I saw her smoking at the show last weekend too, while she was leading her horse. It drives me insane. I don't mind if people smoke but when they smoke around other people and around their horse and in a high fire danger area- that I mind.
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                                      • #20
                                        Originally posted by IsolaBella09 View Post
                                        Feel your pain. Barn I used to ride at, had a guy that would come out of the barn bathroom smoking. Good times...

                                        Maybe he was being considerate. I used to have an office job where my desk was next to the bathroom. Boss used to come in from his 90 min. drive where he drank coffee the whole way and make a beeline for the bathroom. Then he'd come out and leave the door open. Sweet Jeebus on a cracker, I wish he would have been smoking! So I'd have to get up, shut the door, and then go outside to take my smoke break just to settle my stomach.

                                        Trust me, there are things more hazardous to your health than smoke.