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    I have to post this due to the fact that the exhibitor is once again being unfairly taken advantage of. This past weekend it cost me $43 before I went into the ring.. Per horse!
    $15 - office fee (are they not part of the horse show?)
    $15 - grounds fee (oh yeah... they didn't own the facility)
    $8 - drug fee (I didn't get any!)
    $5 - AHJF Relief Fund (I would have rather donated to Red Cross... When I get older I will have to scheme my own "non-profit" organization, so that I can retire!)
    Before you know it there will be a judges fee... stewards fee... in-gate keepers fee... jump crew fee.. Jump rental fee... schooling area fee... medic fee... vet fee (even if you don't have to see him)...
    I almost forgot... I never mentioned the $50 late fee charged to someone who had purchased a pony a few days after the closing date... Was it that much of an inconvienince to add a pony and take their money on entry fees? $50?? They make money on the shavings you buy, the stalls you rent, and the hay and feed you buy. They havn't figured out how to charge for water yet but they will. Maybe I should be greatful that they didn't charge me to park there...
    It is an evil vicious cirle. They(Show Managers) all smile at one another because they are all taking our money. Somehow they try to justify it all. Why do we take it? I am not asking for anything free but don't rape us! Maybe we need a recession in the economy to make them wake up...
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    I have to post this due to the fact that the exhibitor is once again being unfairly taken advantage of. This past weekend it cost me $43 before I went into the ring.. Per horse!
    $15 - office fee (are they not part of the horse show?)
    $15 - grounds fee (oh yeah... they didn't own the facility)
    $8 - drug fee (I didn't get any!)
    $5 - AHJF Relief Fund (I would have rather donated to Red Cross... When I get older I will have to scheme my own "non-profit" organization, so that I can retire!)
    Before you know it there will be a judges fee... stewards fee... in-gate keepers fee... jump crew fee.. Jump rental fee... schooling area fee... medic fee... vet fee (even if you don't have to see him)...
    I almost forgot... I never mentioned the $50 late fee charged to someone who had purchased a pony a few days after the closing date... Was it that much of an inconvienince to add a pony and take their money on entry fees? $50?? They make money on the shavings you buy, the stalls you rent, and the hay and feed you buy. They havn't figured out how to charge for water yet but they will. Maybe I should be greatful that they didn't charge me to park there...
    It is an evil vicious cirle. They(Show Managers) all smile at one another because they are all taking our money. Somehow they try to justify it all. Why do we take it? I am not asking for anything free but don't rape us! Maybe we need a recession in the economy to make them wake up...

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    • #3
      Spruce Meadows' is $500....!

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      • #4
        If you really want to get depressed, try showing at PBPCC the same weekend as a QH show, only to learn that they pay about 75% what you did for the SAME stall, never mind the fact that they didn't pay all those other fees, and their classes cost less, and oops, they could ALL win money back - not just certain divisions.
        Your crazy is showing. You might want to tuck that back in.

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        • #5
          Isn't it awful. I just pre-entered for a show and I'm only going in 3 classes. The "misc" fees are just as much as my total class fees.
          A bit ridiculous I think. [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif[/img]

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          • #6
            The same arguments are found in Eventing. Everyone yells about any increase in any fee. As the friend of an organizer, if you don't like it organize your own D@MN show! If you haven't organized anything, shut the h#ll up. You haven't a clue what it takes to organize and how much money it costs. What, do you want the organizer to pay all their "hard" expenses like grounds rental and stall rental, etc. and NOT get "paid" for all the time they put into it? Who do you think calls the judges, or fills out all the paperwork, or arranges to have the porta potties delivered?

            Give them a break! (flame suit donned)
            ************
            "Of course it's hard. It's supposed to be hard. It's the Hard that makes it great."

            "Get up... Get out... Get Drunk. Repeat as needed." -- Spike

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            • #7
              You silly goose, the $5.00 AHJF was optional, and yes I did NOT pay it [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif[/img] I agree that the "extra" fees are starting to be a bit much, and I won't show at some shows in NJ where the adults are as much as the A/O's with the late fee added on. Unless it's a major AA I don't pre-enter much, it's not worth the hassle of scratching vet cert etc. Hey, maybe my horse/me is having a bad day/week and is not ready, since they are always green ones, you just can't always plan ahead [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif[/img]

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                #8
                Man... You have some issues! LOL We can help! We are here for you man!
                1.) have a beer
                2.) deep breath
                3.) Sex... definately some good sex

                After you do all of the above.. talk to me! Chill dude!

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                • #9
                  No... no issues here other than the fact that I hear complaints like yours all the time and you just hit me at a bad time.

                  Can I still have the beer? [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif[/img] I won't get into the sex issue simply because I have a feeling you think I'm a guy...
                  ************
                  "Of course it's hard. It's supposed to be hard. It's the Hard that makes it great."

                  "Get up... Get out... Get Drunk. Repeat as needed." -- Spike

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                  • #10
                    Sorry TLE, a lot of people are making fortunes off of horse shows. It is definitely an interesting business that can charge you weeks of stall fees because you sent your entries in on time and found out later that you couldn't go for whatever reason (horse lame, etc.). Hundreds of dollars received for absolutely no service rendered? Please. The fees really do get out of hand, too. I realize that it is expensive to run a horse show, but it is also ultimately profitable (sometimes VERY much so) unless the show is crappy and nobody comes. Just my thoughts. [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img]

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                    • #11
                      Ack! You think you have it bad! I'm going to add to what Halfhalt says about Spruce Meadows entries and say that they are absolutely obscene! To enter one horse in the jr/am jumpers of the National is C$1000 (and this is with no tackroom and in the cheap-o stabling. If you want a tackroom, the least costly one is C$700, and let's not even talk about how it much is to try and get out of tent stabling). I'm sure that it costs tons to organize and run these huge shows, but no one's going to convince me that they aren't making a bomb off of us in return! Unfortunately, these shows are the best, biggest, and have the highest riding standards all year, so everyone in the area still keeps shelling it out . . .

                      Cheers,
                      Susie
                      http://www.kachoom.com
                      "That's it! You people have stood in my way long enough. I'm going to clown college!" ~Homer Simpson

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                      • #12
                        Or how about when you send your stall fees in and realize you have to scratch before THEY HAVE EVEN RECEIVED THEM [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif[/img] And you call immediately and request they simply NOT PROCESS YOUR ENTRY!

                        Are you kidding? They certainly didn't process the entry, but they sure as h#ll cashed the check, ignored phone calls and fax, and SOLD THE STALLS AGAIN! (Tent was full!!!)

                        Rip off artists of the highest degree.

                        I will NEVER go back to one of their shows. At ANY of their locations. [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_mad.gif[/img]
                        co-author of 101 Jumping Exercises & The Rider's Fitness Program; Soon to come: Dead Ringer - a tale of equine mystery and intrique! Former Moderator!

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                        • #13
                          Wow, Weatherford, I think we were dealing with the same people. The EXACT same thing happened to me. I was going to start a thread about it, but haven't yet because my little tiff has yet to end. Anyway, I was supposed to go to two different circuits last winter and found out after my entries were sent in (but unquestionably before they had received them via snail mail) that I couldn't go to either. The one circuit couldn't have been nicer. When they received my entries and check, they called me and were even nice enough to ask if I wanted my check ripped up or RETURNED to me! They were willing to even send it back to make sure I had peace of mind! The other circuit just said too bad. Um, hello? They didn't even HAVE the entries yet when they said that! How hard would it be to just put my name on a sticky and throw away my envelope? We're talking almost $1000 here, and I don't have that kind of money to throw away. Anyway, there's a whole additional saga that I'll share on that one but it's not done yet. Needless to say, I will do my best to avoid them from now on. The problem is that the better shows can get away with it if they want to be jerks because they also pay attention to footing, etc. It's very disturbing. (Gosh, this got long...sorry! Pet peeve of mine.) [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img]

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                          • #14
                            By the way, Weatherford, since you mentioned that there are multiple locations run by this company...and seeing where you are in the country...I think we are talking about the same people. Very interesting. [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img]

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                              #15
                              See! I knew I could help! The beer is on my tab... The sex thing... well I am married (to my wife) and most of my friends are gay men... so I can't help you there. It is impossible to find a heterosexual man at the hunter ring, let alone a single one! I am sure that you will do fine though! PEACE!!! LOL

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                              • #16
                                the Brandon Winter Fair. Last year, we sent in our fees on time, but 2 weeks before the show was to go, we decided that it horse and rider weren't ready to go. I contacted the office not because I expected any money back (the horse wasn't lame) but just to let them know so they could let someone in from the waiting list....imagine my surprise when, 2 months later, i receive a cheque with virtually the entire entry fee returned....! Now, it might have helped that we have been attending this show regularly for a number of years and weren't the type to enter on a whim and then try to withdraw later, but still, wasn't that super of them?

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                                • #17
                                  My parents run an "A2" show, that I will take over someday. Some of the "fees" mentioned are required by the AHSA. Did anyone know that they now require canisters for "medical items--ie.needles" located by every trash-can on the grounds??? I thought we weren't supposed to be sticking our horses?

                                  Not all shows do what has been mentioned, and the true horse-people running such shows only make what they earn.

                                  People need to pick and choose their shows, and stay away from those that "rape" them. There are decent "A" rated shows out there that are run by people who care... JMO

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                                  • #18
                                    Running a horse trials and running a horse show are vastly different. Anymore, you're going to pay about the same for an A show division as you are for a USCTA division, stalls vary. At the horse trials I worked at, we made $10 a stall on that fee (and only because the local feed store would donate first bed).

                                    Everyone here has a right to bitch. New fees keep cropping up for AHSA hunter/jumper shows while other organizations manage to run similar shows at the same grounds for significantly less.

                                    Its generally a good idea to make sure you've got all your bases covered before you leap down someone's throat.
                                    Royal Oak Sporthorses
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                                    • #19
                                      Well, at least you were GOOD at the show this past weekend! Imagine if you hadn't done well, then the fees would seem like an even bigger tragedy! By the way, I'm the one who sqeaked above your score in the last class . . . You were still good though! :-)

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                                      • #20
                                        I love being charged a "schooling fee" and a "jumper nomination" fee.

                                        What is a jumper nomination fee (besides an extra way to discourage entries)? They don't have a "hunter nomination" fee! They both use the jumps!

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