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  • Eq horses and lease fees.

    I think the US is so blessed to have such amazing Equitation horses. I mean Grappa may be the most amazing horse (hunter/jumper/polo/reining, etc.) that we have in our country.

    I am interested in knowing what roundabout lease fees for leasing an eq. horse for a season are. I know that some horses are also leased per show. I do not want to know specific names and numbers, as that is none of my business. But are lease fees on eq. horses more than say Junior Jumpers or Junior Hunters (ponies or horses). Eq. horses obviously have to be able to do 100times more things than a hunter or jumper.

    Any ideas?
  • Original Poster

    I think the US is so blessed to have such amazing Equitation horses. I mean Grappa may be the most amazing horse (hunter/jumper/polo/reining, etc.) that we have in our country.

    I am interested in knowing what roundabout lease fees for leasing an eq. horse for a season are. I know that some horses are also leased per show. I do not want to know specific names and numbers, as that is none of my business. But are lease fees on eq. horses more than say Junior Jumpers or Junior Hunters (ponies or horses). Eq. horses obviously have to be able to do 100times more things than a hunter or jumper.

    Any ideas?


    • #3
      That a certain eq horse was leased for $5,000 PER DAY at the medal finals 2 years ago. [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif[/img]

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      • #4
        Unfortunately, I can't answer it AT ALL. But I too am deathly curious as to the cost for a long-term lease on a top eq horse.

        Like VT, no names, not trying to be tacky [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif[/img] by musing on other's finances, but if I know leasing rates for the top rock star horses, perhaps I can figure out what little old moi could afford. Someday [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif[/img]


        • #5
          Standard lease fees for a year are 1 about 1/3 the fair market value of the horse. That takes care of the difference in "value" between disciplines.

          So, a $100,000 horse would cost you about $33,000 per year (plus all of your usual expenses) - youch!


          • #6
            OK, you figure $5K per day at the Finals - would that include any time with the horse prior to the finals? Just to have the horse for a few days to flat beforehand, no jumping? Obviously an eq. horse of that caliber doesn't need to be jumped beforehand.

            At least I assume that when you "do" the big eq. finals classes you are looking at 3 days for prepping - or can a really talented rider like Maggie meet a really talented horse like Grappa the day of the class and hop on, work out the kinks in the schooling ring, and go out and shine like she consistently does?


            • #7
              I have a very well-schooled three foot eq horse and I was told that I could EASILY lease him for 1/3 his price, so I guess 1/3 is the going rate no matter what.

              Aqha Clique
              Can you stress-fracture your brain?


              • #8
                About 10 years ago, a friend of mine leased a not so famous, but good, eq horse for finals at $1000/ day. Her horse went unexpectedly lame right before finals, and that was all she could find at the last minute. I wouldn't be shocked at all to hear that a horse like Grappa goes for more than $5000 per day for finals.


                • #9
                  2 years ago I heard $1000 - $2000 for some Ariat Finalists to lease eq horses. That included a couple of rides the week of the finals.


                  • #10
                    You would fall over, if you heard the number that I heard. Way way way out of the ball park, with the numbers that have been guessed so far!


                    • #11
                      Yes, the Big EQ really is all about uncovering our best horsemen and hardest-working, most talented riders.

                      That said, I am going to "hurl" now, anyone care to join me?

                      "It is by no means the privilege of the rider to part with his horse solely by his own will." -- Alois Podhajsky

                      "Go on, Bill... This is no place for a pony."
                      \"It is by no means the privilege of the rider to part with his horse solely by his own will.\" -- Alois Podhajsky

                      \"Go on, Bill... This is no place for a pony.\"


                      • Original Poster

                        If I paid a large chunk of change to lease a horse - it would be GAURANTEED that I would chip the first jump of the first round. LOL!


                        • #13
                          InWhyCee, I'm with ya sista. I was about to say the same thing. I was at the finals & saw most of the rounds.......I saw many damn good effective riders have not so nice rounds & I saw many pretty riders have pretty rounds.

                          I'm not knocking the winner because she had nice trips, but I give more props to many of the other riders who had not so nice trips.

                          I say if you're really judging horsemanship, then have the riders break, train & show their own horse!


                          • #14
                            In my opinion, no matter how good the horse, the rider still has to get out there with a plan and ride effectively. I don't think having a great horse means you are a shoe-in to win, it just gives an already good rider an edge. If a football team makes it to the superbowl, are they going to play the second string? No, they'll put the first string out there. I would hazard a guess that the people who are winning these eqs really are effective riders. Look how many cross over to GPs, hunters, etc and continue to be successful. I don't think they could do that if they were just posing.


                            • #15
                              At the beginning of the show year most people set up a schedule to meet their Eq horses at certain shows. But the better the horse, and the later you wait to schedule what shows you are going to do with it...the more you pay! But being able to even lease a super-star to do only a few shows is well worth it!

                              Just My Size
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                              • #16
                                I agree! I always like competitions (such as the final round of the WEG) that require riders to change horses. I think that can be a great way to test someone's abilities as a rider. It makes it more about horsemanship and less about looking pretty on an eq horse.


                                • #17
                                  I have heard rumors of a certain big name eq horse being leased for $10,000 a show. [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif[/img]

                                  "Take what you can from your dreams, make them as real as anything." -Dave-
                                  "would you give nothing to be sitting on top of the world with your legs hanging free?" -dmb-



                                  • #18
                                    honestly, i think that at every major eq class they should make it MANDATORY for riders to change horses... [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img]

                                    "DELIVERY!!! did you order a boumb? a BOUMB?!?! AHHHHHH"- Revenge of the Pink Panther


                                    • #19
                                      does anyone have a picture of grappa? VT, what is so amazing about this horse? I'm not saying that sarcastically, seriously, what is it? Is he the grey one with Maggie on TH site right now?


                                      • #20
                                        I can't even think about the millions of ways I would screw up this beautiful horse. I keep picturing Grappa giving me "the hoof" or at the very least the International "L" sign for Loser.

                                        But wait, he couldn't do the "L" sign. He has no thumbs [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif[/img] [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif[/img] [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif[/img]

                                        And to repeat my earlier post, this thread was intended as a realistic discussion about the costs of leasing a top level horse, and how those leasing contracts work. I think we can all agree that it costs a large sum of money to compete at the top national levels.

                                        Professional football teams are worth hundreds of millions of dollars, but I don't see anyone bemoaning the fact that little pee wee kids who play flag football can't "afford" to play at Fedex field.