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Is the chestnut mare thing a deal-breaker?

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  • Is the chestnut mare thing a deal-breaker?

    There is a 3 year old that I'm looking at. She would be a resale prospect for the hunters. The pluses - cute mover, nice temperament, nice bloodlines - registered SF . She is just about 16 h but still young so could grow. Her siblings have all been sold to the US and are having some decent careers. I think the price will be right.

    The minues - she is a mare. And chestnut. Granted liver chestnut but still.. let's call her what she is.

    Would the chestnut mare thing be a deal-breaker for you if you were looking? Again, the theory is that she would be a resale.
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    It depends. Is she a Thoroughbred?

    Oh, my bad, didn't realize what SF stood for. Well, as long as she's not a Thoroughbred, it should be fine .
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      Would not be a deal breaker for me. But then, I am weird and prefer mares, the bitchier the better, and don't care if they are chestnut.

      Who is the sire?

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        Sire is Milano de Flore.
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          Originally posted by nycjumper View Post
          Sire is Milano de Flore.
          We have a chestnut GELDING by him in our barn; one of the sweetest horses I've ever met. If I'm not mistaken, the majority of SFs are chestnut, and I've heard nothing but great things about this line, so I'd say why not! The guy that we have is absolutely gorgeous and super talented...I would not mind having one of his siblings at all!
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          • #6
            I bought a 2 YO chestnut filly for myself this week, so I'll say no. I have never found chestnuts to be "hotter" than any other color.
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              If it were a personal horse, absolutely not. I love a good mare, and I really don't give a crap about their color. As a resale project I'd have to think about it. If she's super awesome, I'd probably take her. But mares are, in general, harder to sell than geldings so I'd have to be flexible on the price.
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              • #8
                Chestnut mares ARE harder resale horses (mares in general are), but I jsut sold a nice liver chestnut DWB mare for a client and had a good bit of itnerest in her. She did lower the price a bit but that was really more of an economy thing I think. If you get a mare for resale make sure it is 100% sound, no vices, and REALLY good disposition even when is season.
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                  I don't personally care about a horse's color (in fact - I prefer a chestnut!) but again, I would be looking at her for resale so that is a different set of criteria. I've had several people tell me they wouldn't consider mares when shopping so I know there is a bias out there and the chestnut factor probably makes it worse. Hence my hesitation...

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                    It's absolutely crazy that people base a horse purchase on COLOR. You don't ride the color, you ride the horse. Just crazy.

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                    • #11
                      Liver chesnut is one of my favorite colors, and I actually prefer mares! I think that once your "their human" they will do anything for you, and that is the kind of bond i like to have with my horses.

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                      • #12
                        If you get them trained up properly and get them some show miles, nobody cares...even a chestnut TB mare-if it wins-will sell.

                        Even for resale, proof is in the pudding as they say, get her out there showing as a Hunter, even in this market, they are selling if proven.

                        If there is no way you can get her to shows, I'd not buy anything for resale. Little to no market for the average, unknown prospect of any breed or color.
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                          FWIW

                          The sweetest, most docile, quiet, gentle horse I know is a 5 year old chestnut TB mare. She did baby greens last year and didn't twitch an ear.
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                          • #14
                            Ok, so the chestnut TB mare thing is a superstition...but i do subscribe to it! It might be a deal breaker for me...but ONLY if i had something comparable that i was looking at that wasn't a chestnut mare...call me shallow and superstitious.

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                            • #15
                              The chestnut mare thing is a convenient thing on which to hang blame for all sorts of things.

                              Sometimes there is actually a bad horse at fault. Most often though, take your pick, bad training, bad riding, the judge does not like chestnut mares. Whatever, niether sex nor color is what the problem is.

                              But it's popular to blame it.
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                              • #16
                                Personally, I think that passing up on a horse because of color or gender (unless you want to breed it and THAT's why it can't be a gelding) is the most ridiculous thing in the world.

                                Doesn't change the fact that people do it all the time, and it can narrow the market for a horse.

                                Whether it narrows the market enough to warrant skipping over a nice prospect is another story, and I tend to think no. There are always people who specifically want a mare so they can breed it later, or who just, hey! can ride both sides of the equine population instead of just half, ...and really, if it's NOT HOT and it's demonstrably RIDEABLE, if somebody is going to insist that it's too hot in spite of the horse's empirical and demonstrated performance (this horse? definitely too hot because it's a chestnut mare) then they probably should stick to carousel horses.
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                                • #17
                                  Pretty IS as pretty DOES.

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                                  • #18
                                    Chestnut? Mare? My favorite horse ever was a Chestnut Mare. I certainly wouldn't discount a horse who is good in other ways because of either of those two things.
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                                      Originally posted by eqrider1234 View Post
                                      Liver chestnut is one of my favorite colors, and I actually prefer mares! I think that once your "their human" they will do anything for you, and that is the kind of bond i like to have with my horses.
                                      This is why I L-O-V-E mares. My trainer thought I'd lost it when I told her I'd prefer a mare to a gelding.
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                                      • #20
                                        Originally posted by Hunter Mom View Post
                                        This is why I L-O-V-E mares. My trainer thought I'd lost it when I told her I'd prefer a mare to a gelding.
                                        So true. I have 3 mares right now. Am selling 2, but only because of financial reasons...I adore them. And, they're all VERY different personalities.

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