• Welcome to the Chronicle Forums.
    Please complete your profile. The forums and the rest of www.chronofhorse.com has single sign-in, so your log in information for one will automatically work for the other. Disclaimer: The opinions expressed here are the views of the individual and do not necessarily reflect the views and opinions of The Chronicle of the Horse.

Announcement

Collapse

Forum rules and no-advertising policy

As a participant on this forum, it is your responsibility to know and follow our rules. Please read this message in its entirety.

Board Rules

1. You’re responsible for what you say.
As outlined in Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, The Chronicle of the Horse and its affiliates, as well Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd., the developers of vBulletin, are not legally responsible for statements made in the forums.

This is a public forum viewed by a wide spectrum of people, so please be mindful of what you say and who might be reading it—details of personal disputes are likely better handled privately. While posters are legally responsible for their statements, the moderators may in their discretion remove or edit posts that violate these rules. Users have the ability to modify or delete their own messages after posting, but administrators generally will not delete posts, threads or accounts upon request.

Outright inflammatory, vulgar, harassing, malicious or otherwise inappropriate statements and criminal charges unsubstantiated by a reputable news source or legal documentation will not be tolerated and will be dealt with at the discretion of the moderators.

2. Conversations in horse-related forums should be horse-related.
The forums are a wonderful source of information and support for members of the horse community. While it’s understandably tempting to share information or search for input on other topics upon which members might have a similar level of knowledge, members must maintain the focus on horses.

3. Keep conversations productive, on topic and civil.
Discussion and disagreement are inevitable and encouraged; personal insults, diatribes and sniping comments are unproductive and unacceptable. Whether a subject is light-hearted or serious, keep posts focused on the current topic and of general interest to other participants of that thread. Utilize the private message feature or personal email where appropriate to address side topics or personal issues not related to the topic at large.

4. No advertising in the discussion forums.
Posts in the discussion forums directly or indirectly advertising horses, jobs, items or services for sale or wanted will be removed at the discretion of the moderators. Use of the private messaging feature or email addresses obtained through users’ profiles for unsolicited advertising is not permitted.

Company representatives may participate in discussions and answer questions about their products or services, or suggest their products on recent threads if they fulfill the criteria of a query. False "testimonials" provided by company affiliates posing as general consumers are not appropriate, and self-promotion of sales, ad campaigns, etc. through the discussion forums is not allowed.

Paid advertising is available on our classifieds site and through the purchase of banner ads. The tightly monitored Giveaways forum permits free listings of genuinely free horses and items available or wanted (on a limited basis). Items offered for trade are not allowed.

Advertising Policy Specifics
When in doubt of whether something you want to post constitutes advertising, please contact a moderator privately in advance for further clarification. Refer to the following points for general guidelines:

Horses – Only general discussion about the buying, leasing, selling and pricing of horses is permitted. If the post contains, or links to, the type of specific information typically found in a sales or wanted ad, and it’s related to a horse for sale, regardless of who’s selling it, it doesn’t belong in the discussion forums.

Stallions – Board members may ask for suggestions on breeding stallion recommendations. Stallion owners may reply to such queries by suggesting their own stallions, only if their horse fits the specific criteria of the original poster. Excessive promotion of a stallion by its owner or related parties is not permitted and will be addressed at the discretion of the moderators.

Services – Members may use the forums to ask for general recommendations of trainers, barns, shippers, farriers, etc., and other members may answer those requests by suggesting themselves or their company, if their services fulfill the specific criteria of the original post. Members may not solicit other members for business if it is not in response to a direct, genuine query.

Products – While members may ask for general opinions and suggestions on equipment, trailers, trucks, etc., they may not list the specific attributes for which they are in the market, as such posts serve as wanted ads.

Event Announcements – Members may post one notification of an upcoming event that may be of interest to fellow members, if the original poster does not benefit financially from the event. Such threads may not be “bumped” excessively. Premium members may post their own notices in the Event Announcements forum.

Charities/Rescues – Announcements for charitable or fundraising events can only be made for 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organizations. Special exceptions may be made, at the moderators’ discretion and direction, for board-related events or fundraising activities in extraordinary circumstances.

Occasional posts regarding horses available for adoption through IRS-registered horse rescue or placement programs are permitted in the appropriate forums, but these threads may be limited at the discretion of the moderators. Individuals may not advertise or make announcements for horses in need of rescue, placement or adoption unless the horse is available through a recognized rescue or placement agency or government-run entity or the thread fits the criteria for and is located in the Giveaways forum.

5. Do not post copyrighted photographs unless you have purchased that photo and have permission to do so.

6. Respect other members.
As members are often passionate about their beliefs and intentions can easily be misinterpreted in this type of environment, try to explore or resolve the inevitable disagreements that arise in the course of threads calmly and rationally.

If you see a post that you feel violates the rules of the board, please click the “alert” button (exclamation point inside of a triangle) in the bottom left corner of the post, which will alert ONLY the moderators to the post in question. They will then take whatever action, or no action, as deemed appropriate for the situation at their discretion. Do not air grievances regarding other posters or the moderators in the discussion forums.

Please be advised that adding another user to your “Ignore” list via your User Control Panel can be a useful tactic, which blocks posts and private messages by members whose commentary you’d rather avoid reading.

7. We have the right to reproduce statements made in the forums.
The Chronicle of the Horse may copy, quote, link to or otherwise reproduce posts, or portions of posts, in print or online for advertising or editorial purposes, if attributed to their original authors, and by posting in this forum, you hereby grant to The Chronicle of the Horse a perpetual, non-exclusive license under copyright and other rights, to do so.

8. We reserve the right to enforce and amend the rules.
The moderators may delete, edit, move or close any post or thread at any time, or refrain from doing any of the foregoing, in their discretion, and may suspend or revoke a user’s membership privileges at any time to maintain adherence to the rules and the general spirit of the forum. These rules may be amended at any time to address the current needs of the board.

Please see our full Terms of Service and Privacy Policy for more information.

Thanks for being a part of the COTH forums!

(Revised 1/26/16)
See more
See less

saddle style rumor

Collapse
X
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • saddle style rumor

    I heard a rumor that the old type "real" close contact saddles without knee rolls are coming back. Has anyone else heard this?

  • #2
    I don't know about rumors, but I rode in one during a lesson this evening and really liked it - a lot.

    Comment


    • #3
      Originally posted by miss girl View Post
      I heard a rumor that the old type "real" close contact saddles without knee rolls are coming back. Has anyone else heard this?

      This is a really strange post.

      Even if they DO come back 'in style' no one is going to MAKE you ride in one. The antares and devoucoux's will still be made and probably will still be very popular.

      Personally I ride in a no frills Tad Coffin and love it. It has a very small knee pad kind of thing but it doesn't make a difference really. I will never understand how people can ride in those over padded saddles and still feel their horse underneath them.

      I kind of hope more people do make the switch. I bet we would see a marked improvement in equitation and effectiveness.

      Comment


      • #4
        this is kind of a weird question. you don't hear much about saddle fashion they've always been around. i see just as many no-frills no-pads saddles as the padded up ones. me? personally, i can't ride in anything other than my saddle. well, i can, but it hurts. it really shouldn't, i'm only seventeen, but if i ride in one of the real old saddles in the barn with a pancake seat, my back and knees feel awful. i get a lot of joint and back pain, so having my nice cushy devoucoux is quite helpful for avoiding soreness (not that i don't still have some pain, but it's nothing i can't tolerate)

        it's not like anyone's going to come taking my saddle away and replacing it with an old pancake. you can keep your regular saddle. judges aren't going to mark you down for having a regular saddle with knee blocks/cushy seat or a pancake saddle (unless they do not fit you).
        Last edited by superpony123; Apr. 20, 2009, 10:08 PM.
        (|--Sarah--|)

        Blitz <3 & Leap of Faith <3

        Comment


        • #5
          Originally posted by WorthTheWait95 View Post
          : Personally I ride in a no frills Tad Coffin and love it. It has a very small knee pad kind of thing but it doesn't make a difference really. I will never understand how people can ride in those over padded saddles and still feel their horse underneath them.

          I kind of hope more people do make the switch. I bet we would see a marked improvement in equitation and effectiveness.
          Durn...I wonder how I showed western (cutting, reining, snaffle bit, etc.) all those years not being able to feel my horse underneath me and all...

          Comment


          • #6
            What's weird about this?

            OP is asking if anyone heard about flat saddles coming back into fashion and/or new ones being made....she didn't say, "Did you hear the rumor that someone is sneaking into tackrooms and replacing all the poofy squishy saddles with pancake saddles?" Or, "OMG, did you read that saddles are being inspected at the ingate, and anybody with kneerolls gets 20 lashes with a crop?"


            I do agree that they've always been around, and are classic, but they're not necessarily what a lot of riders consider THE saddle to have. I'm a classic girl, I won't ride in anything but my flat PDN. Personally, I think it would be cool if they came out with a new, modern version of it.

            But jeez, OP is just asking if they're becoming popular again (as opposed to the tried and true old school classic that they are now.) What's wrong with that?

            Comment


            • #7
              Nothin' wrong with the question or the saddles. I'm confused about the "rumor" part. I don't think there is a clique of peeps making up the rules. But if there are, then please name names. Just curious about the source.

              I'm of the PdN era, and I can ride in a modern padded bucket. So I guess that fashion of it all is lost on me, but the form and function of these different kinds of saddles is worth considering.
              The armchair saddler
              Politically Pro-Cat

              Comment


              • #8
                Originally posted by Seven-up View Post
                What's weird about this?



                But jeez, OP is just asking if they're becoming popular again (as opposed to the tried and true old school classic that they are now.) What's wrong with that?
                Nothing wrong with the question itself but the post sounded like there was going to be some sort of law passed tomorrow outlawing all padded saddles and mandating that only PDN's are to be used in the future . It read kind of dramatic to me. I just don't understand where these 'rumors' come from, who cares enough to start them/listen to them and become worried I guess. Is it really that big of a deal what kind of saddle I choose to ride in?

                Comment


                • #9
                  Maybe OP just likes the word 'rumor.' Or maybe it was one of those things where someone said, "I heard somebody else say..." therefore it was 2nd hand info, otherwise known as 'rumor.'


                  'Splain yo'self, OP! Are conspiracies brewing or what?

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    The rumor I heard was that close contacts never went anywhere and have been available for years.

                    I have a Hermes Steinkraus and an Antares Medium Deep, so if THEY check up on me, I'll be o.k. no matter which one is approved by THEM.

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      I haven't heard any rumors. But someone said about the over padded saddles. I rode in two of my friend's saddles last week. One had a massive amount of padding in the knee rolls, to the point where my knees felt like they were miles away from the horse, my legs actually turned to where the backs of my calves were on the horse. The other saddle didn't have nearly as much padding, but the padding it did have was so cushiony that I felt like I was sitting on a couch rather than a horse. I'm so used to my flat Kincade (don't laugh, it fits my pony and that's all that matters really). Both are rather expensive saddles, but I love my flat, hard saddle. I feel like I have something stable to support me.
                      https://catchacanter.wordpress.com

                      Comment


                      • #12
                        i havent heard it, and i hope its not happeneing b/c i have 2 big ole cushy saddles on consignment. But they usually only take ones they know they can sell and from what ive seen at shows i dont see too many people switching back, and i see the same people at the same shows week after week.

                        My first saddle had no knee rolls and all that jazz and i loved it, and now i have the big couch and love it, so im indifferent on that part!

                        Comment


                        • #13
                          It is surprizing how much pressure a trainer can put on a student to ride in a certain saddle - not exactly a law, but none of the kids wants to be the only one with the weird saddle, and peer pressure is powerful. Hence all these Butets and Antares - flavour of the current times...for now.
                          Proud member of People Who Hate to Kill Wildlife clique

                          Comment


                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Foxtrot's View Post
                            It is surprizing how much pressure a trainer can put on a student to ride in a certain saddle - not exactly a law, but none of the kids wants to be the only one with the weird saddle, and peer pressure is powerful. Hence all these Butets and Antares - flavour of the current times...for now.
                            Hmm I have not had that experience. But then again, I only trade trainers when I move to a new state, thus 15 years riding, 3 trainers. They all did insist that I have a saddle that was decent, safe and fit me and the horse. So I rode for a long time in a 17" Curcuit and now an 18" Artos Stuebben.

                            Comment


                            • #15
                              It tends to happen a lot more when the trainer is getting a cut of every saddle that their students buy.

                              Comment


                              • #16
                                I am another of the flat-as-a-pancake PDN era, and that's what I rode in up until 2 years ago. Then I got my cushy padded saddles. Okay, so one is an older model with less "cush," but still not the the classic style.

                                Anyway, I'm happy with what I have, and I still have my old, beat up PDN. I'm comfy in all, and I'll ride in what fits me. Rumor, or popular style be darned!
                                "IT'S NOT THE MOUNTAIN WE CONQUER, BUT OURSELVES." SIR EDMUND HILLARYMember of the "Someone Special To Me Serves In The Military" Clique

                                Comment


                                • #17
                                  If it: 1. fits the horse, 2. fits me, I don't care how flat or cushy it is. Unless it's a really weird saddle that balances me really funny, I don't even notice.
                                  ******
                                  "A good horse and a good rider are only so in mutual trust."
                                  -H.M.E.

                                  Comment


                                  • #18
                                    I do recall my CWD rep friend saying that a lot of the bigger brands are starting to make the 'pancake' saddles more available. ie Devoucoux, Antares but not CWD yet. I'm also a fan of the very little padding and can't stand the saddles that are so padded up that they hold your leg in place! But it's all a matter of comfort for both horse and rider, right? Not fashion!
                                    **********************************
                                    I'd rather be riding!

                                    Comment


                                    • #19
                                      Of course they are... after all it's time for everyone to buy a new saddle. How else do you think that the saddle companies stay in business? If no one ever bought new tack they'd be out of business in a hurry.

                                      Comment

                                      • Original Poster

                                        #20
                                        I'm sorry I didn't mean to make my OP sound so dramatic. I had just heard from one of my students that she had heard that the old style flat unpadded close contact saddles were coming back into fashion...so I guess that makes it a "rumor". I didn't mean to imply that we would be punished or our saddles taken away if they weren't what was in style...just a simple question of what is in style. It's been quite sometime since I've been on the "A" circuit I myself am from the flat old style saddles era and prefered them until I got my ADT close contact...and being of a mature age the padding is much friendlier to my older joints. I do have to agree with another poster that we would see better equitation and have a better feel of the horse with the old style...that's one of the things that I miss about them. Sorry to have made a mountain out of a mole hill

                                        Comment

                                        Working...
                                        X