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  • Pony Finals Auction

    Hello,

    Has anyone ever sold a pony through this sale? I have a really fancy pony that we are starting under saddle right now that we are thinking about putting in the sale next year. He would be a 4yo and by then jumping and showing...so would it be worth it?

    Any insights or thoughts greatly appreciated.

    Bobbi Pratt
    Bobbi
    ~ Jus Passed My Zipper aka Spanky, 11yo QH gelding.
    ~ Muskogee, 2yo Oldenburg Colt.

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    It depends on what you mean by fancy. The "fancy" ponies that sell for good money are well bred welsh, welsh/TB, imported sport ponies and the like- proven show hunter pony lines. These buyers are savvy. The ponies must be excellent movers, excellent jumpers and must have temperaments suited for children. The ponies go through a demo and are tried multiple times. The best ponies are furiously bid on. Ponies that don't pass muster often no-sale or sell for next to nothing. No offense to the following, but the QH type and the more common looking won't do well. Neither will a pretty, good moving, but bad jumping type.
    http://patchworkfarmga.com

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    • #3
      not to hijack the thread but I too am interested, [edit]
      Im considering taking her to the auction but since im in florida im not sure if it is worth it with gas and all?
      Last edited by Moderator 1; Apr. 15, 2009, 09:08 AM.

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      • #4
        What does it cost to enter the auction??
        www.millcreekfarm.net
        **RIP Kickstart aka Char 12/2/2009**

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        • #5
          he sounds nice, how far are you from the auction? i think that will be a big determining factor for us because we are pretty far. My pony is currently for sale so hopefully someone will buy her before the auction!

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          • #6
            I usually sell 2 or 3 at the Pony Finals auction every year. I have had great results for the most part. The ponies must be fancy, good movers and jumpers, at least well started and safe for a kid to ride. Mine are usually young and green, but all of the above. The MOST important thing, in my opinion, is to hire an agent to represent you if you are relatively unknown. I use Oliver Brown and I can't recommend him enough - he is great, but there are a few others that sell in the top $$ every year as well. The buyers that spend the most $$ are looking at ponies with reputable names attached. The consignment fees are $375 per pony (at least it was last year) and they must be accepted by Professional Auction Services - usually they ask for photos and/or video. There is a 10% commission due if the pony sells and a 5% commission if you no sell it. There is also a $40 photo fee for ad photos. If you hire an agent, then you must pay their fee as well. Usually it is a very hectic time, but we always have a lot of fun and look forward to it every year. Good luck!
            Quicksilver Farms, LLC
            "Welsh Hunter Ponies"
            Welsh Sec. B Stallions and
            Fancy Show Pony Prospects
            www.quicksilverponies.com

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            • #7
              I think it's a great sale too! But I did see some kids trying ponies that were "interesting" riders, the ones who were nice and safe the whole time sold very well

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              • #8
                Oh yes. There are some kids there that will try every pony in the sale practically. You must be very careful and set limits as to how many kids and for how long your pony can be tried - it can be a zoo - and your pony can suffer for it if you are not careful.
                Quicksilver Farms, LLC
                "Welsh Hunter Ponies"
                Welsh Sec. B Stallions and
                Fancy Show Pony Prospects
                www.quicksilverponies.com

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                • #9
                  A piece of advice that was given to me: it doesn't matter so much how far along your pony is (but should jump a Xrail) but whatever you claim it can do MUST be able to be done by a child. If you say it can w-t-c,then a child must be able to doit. If you say it has its changes, than a child should be able to get them. Makes sense to me.
                  Laurie

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                  • #10
                    I wonder if the sale will be a bit different this year, due to the economy. Anyone think there'll be an even greater (than usual--not that there aren't usually) percentage of made show ponies with significant records (vs. fancy prospects)? Just wondering because so many ponies with decent mileage still aren't selling (market glut, maybe--but I don't know, really), so perhaps more will enter the sale after having tried unsuccessfully to sell privately? I wonder, if that seemed to be happening as the entries came in, if the auction might accept only the most outstanding younger ponies (speculation based on assuming that made ponies would sell for the highest premiums vs. all but the most exceptional younger ones)?
                    Sportponies Unlimited
                    Athletic Thoroughbred crosses for the highly motivated, smaller rider.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by quicksilverponies View Post
                      Oh yes. There are some kids there that will try every pony in the sale practically. You must be very careful and set limits as to how many kids and for how long your pony can be tried - it can be a zoo - and your pony can suffer for it if you are not careful.

                      make very very careful note of what QS says here....unlike the other PAS horse sales where people don't ride unless they are really interested in an animal, the pony sales bring out every "tire kicking look how great my kid rides wanna be big on the B circuit" trainer and show mama in the world...

                      and IF you decline little Caitlyn's (and all 12 other spellings of the name) request for a "kick and jerk" session, then they consider that you are hiding something and tell the whole world....

                      be very very careful


                      regards
                      Production Acres,Pro A Welsh Cobs
                      I am one of the last 210,000 remaining full time farmers in America.We feed the others.

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                      • #12
                        You're welcome to discuss the auction in general, but please keep the specific details re: ponies currently for sale out of the thread to comply with the no-advertising policy.

                        Thanks!
                        Mod 1

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                        • #13
                          FYI This is probably the case with most auctions, but once your entry is accepted, if you sale it yourself before the auction you still have to pay the auction.

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                          • Original Poster

                            #14
                            Thanks guys.

                            I live in Oklahoma and Kentucky isn't that bad of a trip from here. Plus it would be fun to see everything. I am thinking about trying to do the 2010 Pony Auction with this gelding. Mod... didn't mean for my description to sound like a sale ad... it was more to show the one poster that he wasn't a little QH but something that is bred for this kinda thing. The little guy won't even been for sale until I get him going over fences, etc.

                            Looks like that sale might be something to keep on the horizon.

                            Bobbi
                            Bobbi
                            ~ Jus Passed My Zipper aka Spanky, 11yo QH gelding.
                            ~ Muskogee, 2yo Oldenburg Colt.

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                            • #15
                              For those of you with experience selling through this sale, how do you limit the number of rides on your pony? How do you weed through the tire kickers to only allow trials on the pony from legit trainers? I've seen some very nice ponies just get used and abused to the point where they "demo" very badly because they're over it. Ideas?
                              http://patchworkfarmga.com

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                              • #16
                                Originally posted by Jsalem View Post
                                For those of you with experience selling through this sale, how do you limit the number of rides on your pony? How do you weed through the tire kickers to only allow trials on the pony from legit trainers? I've seen some very nice ponies just get used and abused to the point where they "demo" very badly because they're over it. Ideas?

                                I'd be interested in the answer to this as well. I have a 5 year old small that I would like to enter in the auction. I've been very careful with her so far and I don't want her ruined if I end up bringing her back home. She knows her job thus far but is still too green to let every tire kicking kid/show mom practice on . Couldn't I let my daughter do the demo ride and a select few others? Does the hired sales agent typically screen trials? My pony won't be the fanciest and best bred but she'll hold her own. I just don't want to put her at a disadvantage either.

                                I feel like the economy is already a big strike against me.

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                                • #17
                                  sorry mods, i just wanted to see if people thought she was a good candidate for the sale since it is such a long trip, i would hate to drive the what, 16 hours and find out that isnt the kind of pony that sells good at the auction.

                                  Do you guys think that the ponies are selling as high as they did in previous years?

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                                  • #18
                                    Regardless of the economy, you will always have some that sell high. Most of the time it's all about who consigns them.
                                    Randee Beckman ~Otteridge Farm, LLC (http://on.fb.me/1iJEqvR)~ Marketing Manager - The Clothes Horse & Jennifer Oliver Equine Insurance Specialist

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                                    • #19
                                      If you don't know if your pony fits the bill to sale well, then send Tim a video and he will give you an honest opinion. I would expect that after the success of last year's sale, that PAS will be very selective on what they take in '09. The key to last year's success is that folks who normally would pay over 100K were "on a budget" and were tickled to get a great pony for 50K (a great price for this sale). The good news is that gas and hotels prices are down because of the economy and if you've never gone, it's a great show. And I don't know where it will be next year because of the WEG...

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                                      • #20
                                        Pony Finals -- sire/breeding is desireable?

                                        I have a 4 year old pony, but he isn't ready to enter the show/auction ring....we are just getting him started. Right now he is your typical youngster and tries to get away with things until you tell him your the boss...not him. So for this reason I wouldn't consider putting him in this type of auction. I'm not really into the "who's who" of sires/breeding....and he may not be "fancy" enough for this auction in the first place, although i did have a trainer last year tell me that she'd work with him and if I decided to sell him she'd take him to the pony finals auction in ky.....so, I am assuming this is the same one.....can someone give me some pointers or advise? Thanks.

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