• Welcome to the Chronicle Forums.
    Please complete your profile. The forums and the rest of www.chronofhorse.com has single sign-in, so your log in information for one will automatically work for the other. Disclaimer: The opinions expressed here are the views of the individual and do not necessarily reflect the views and opinions of The Chronicle of the Horse.



Forum rules and no-advertising policy

As a participant on this forum, it is your responsibility to know and follow our rules. Please read this message in its entirety.

Board Rules

1. You’re responsible for what you say.
As outlined in Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, The Chronicle of the Horse and its affiliates, as well Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd., the developers of vBulletin, are not legally responsible for statements made in the forums.

This is a public forum viewed by a wide spectrum of people, so please be mindful of what you say and who might be reading it—details of personal disputes are likely better handled privately. While posters are legally responsible for their statements, the moderators may in their discretion remove or edit posts that violate these rules. Users have the ability to modify or delete their own messages after posting, but administrators generally will not delete posts, threads or accounts upon request.

Outright inflammatory, vulgar, harassing, malicious or otherwise inappropriate statements and criminal charges unsubstantiated by a reputable news source or legal documentation will not be tolerated and will be dealt with at the discretion of the moderators.

2. Conversations in horse-related forums should be horse-related.
The forums are a wonderful source of information and support for members of the horse community. While it’s understandably tempting to share information or search for input on other topics upon which members might have a similar level of knowledge, members must maintain the focus on horses.

3. Keep conversations productive, on topic and civil.
Discussion and disagreement are inevitable and encouraged; personal insults, diatribes and sniping comments are unproductive and unacceptable. Whether a subject is light-hearted or serious, keep posts focused on the current topic and of general interest to other participants of that thread. Utilize the private message feature or personal email where appropriate to address side topics or personal issues not related to the topic at large.

4. No advertising in the discussion forums.
Posts in the discussion forums directly or indirectly advertising horses, jobs, items or services for sale or wanted will be removed at the discretion of the moderators. Use of the private messaging feature or email addresses obtained through users’ profiles for unsolicited advertising is not permitted.

Company representatives may participate in discussions and answer questions about their products or services, or suggest their products on recent threads if they fulfill the criteria of a query. False "testimonials" provided by company affiliates posing as general consumers are not appropriate, and self-promotion of sales, ad campaigns, etc. through the discussion forums is not allowed.

Paid advertising is available on our classifieds site and through the purchase of banner ads. The tightly monitored Giveaways forum permits free listings of genuinely free horses and items available or wanted (on a limited basis). Items offered for trade are not allowed.

Advertising Policy Specifics
When in doubt of whether something you want to post constitutes advertising, please contact a moderator privately in advance for further clarification. Refer to the following points for general guidelines:

Horses – Only general discussion about the buying, leasing, selling and pricing of horses is permitted. If the post contains, or links to, the type of specific information typically found in a sales or wanted ad, and it’s related to a horse for sale, regardless of who’s selling it, it doesn’t belong in the discussion forums.

Stallions – Board members may ask for suggestions on breeding stallion recommendations. Stallion owners may reply to such queries by suggesting their own stallions, only if their horse fits the specific criteria of the original poster. Excessive promotion of a stallion by its owner or related parties is not permitted and will be addressed at the discretion of the moderators.

Services – Members may use the forums to ask for general recommendations of trainers, barns, shippers, farriers, etc., and other members may answer those requests by suggesting themselves or their company, if their services fulfill the specific criteria of the original post. Members may not solicit other members for business if it is not in response to a direct, genuine query.

Products – While members may ask for general opinions and suggestions on equipment, trailers, trucks, etc., they may not list the specific attributes for which they are in the market, as such posts serve as wanted ads.

Event Announcements – Members may post one notification of an upcoming event that may be of interest to fellow members, if the original poster does not benefit financially from the event. Such threads may not be “bumped” excessively. Premium members may post their own notices in the Event Announcements forum.

Charities/Rescues – Announcements for charitable or fundraising events can only be made for 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organizations. Special exceptions may be made, at the moderators’ discretion and direction, for board-related events or fundraising activities in extraordinary circumstances.

Occasional posts regarding horses available for adoption through IRS-registered horse rescue or placement programs are permitted in the appropriate forums, but these threads may be limited at the discretion of the moderators. Individuals may not advertise or make announcements for horses in need of rescue, placement or adoption unless the horse is available through a recognized rescue or placement agency or government-run entity or the thread fits the criteria for and is located in the Giveaways forum.

5. Do not post copyrighted photographs unless you have purchased that photo and have permission to do so.

6. Respect other members.
As members are often passionate about their beliefs and intentions can easily be misinterpreted in this type of environment, try to explore or resolve the inevitable disagreements that arise in the course of threads calmly and rationally.

If you see a post that you feel violates the rules of the board, please click the “alert” button (exclamation point inside of a triangle) in the bottom left corner of the post, which will alert ONLY the moderators to the post in question. They will then take whatever action, or no action, as deemed appropriate for the situation at their discretion. Do not air grievances regarding other posters or the moderators in the discussion forums.

Please be advised that adding another user to your “Ignore” list via your User Control Panel can be a useful tactic, which blocks posts and private messages by members whose commentary you’d rather avoid reading.

7. We have the right to reproduce statements made in the forums.
The Chronicle of the Horse may copy, quote, link to or otherwise reproduce posts, or portions of posts, in print or online for advertising or editorial purposes, if attributed to their original authors, and by posting in this forum, you hereby grant to The Chronicle of the Horse a perpetual, non-exclusive license under copyright and other rights, to do so.

8. We reserve the right to enforce and amend the rules.
The moderators may delete, edit, move or close any post or thread at any time, or refrain from doing any of the foregoing, in their discretion, and may suspend or revoke a user’s membership privileges at any time to maintain adherence to the rules and the general spirit of the forum. These rules may be amended at any time to address the current needs of the board.

Please see our full Terms of Service and Privacy Policy for more information.

Thanks for being a part of the COTH forums!

(Revised 1/26/16)
See more
See less

Pony Finals Auction

  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Pony Finals Auction


    Has anyone ever sold a pony through this sale? I have a really fancy pony that we are starting under saddle right now that we are thinking about putting in the sale next year. He would be a 4yo and by then jumping and showing...so would it be worth it?

    Any insights or thoughts greatly appreciated.

    Bobbi Pratt
    ~ Jus Passed My Zipper aka Spanky, 11yo QH gelding.
    ~ Muskogee, 2yo Oldenburg Colt.

  • #2
    It depends on what you mean by fancy. The "fancy" ponies that sell for good money are well bred welsh, welsh/TB, imported sport ponies and the like- proven show hunter pony lines. These buyers are savvy. The ponies must be excellent movers, excellent jumpers and must have temperaments suited for children. The ponies go through a demo and are tried multiple times. The best ponies are furiously bid on. Ponies that don't pass muster often no-sale or sell for next to nothing. No offense to the following, but the QH type and the more common looking won't do well. Neither will a pretty, good moving, but bad jumping type.


    • #3
      not to hijack the thread but I too am interested, [edit]
      Im considering taking her to the auction but since im in florida im not sure if it is worth it with gas and all?
      Last edited by Moderator 1; Apr. 15, 2009, 08:08 AM.


      • #4
        What does it cost to enter the auction??
        **RIP Kickstart aka Char 12/2/2009**


        • #5
          he sounds nice, how far are you from the auction? i think that will be a big determining factor for us because we are pretty far. My pony is currently for sale so hopefully someone will buy her before the auction!


          • #6
            I usually sell 2 or 3 at the Pony Finals auction every year. I have had great results for the most part. The ponies must be fancy, good movers and jumpers, at least well started and safe for a kid to ride. Mine are usually young and green, but all of the above. The MOST important thing, in my opinion, is to hire an agent to represent you if you are relatively unknown. I use Oliver Brown and I can't recommend him enough - he is great, but there are a few others that sell in the top $$ every year as well. The buyers that spend the most $$ are looking at ponies with reputable names attached. The consignment fees are $375 per pony (at least it was last year) and they must be accepted by Professional Auction Services - usually they ask for photos and/or video. There is a 10% commission due if the pony sells and a 5% commission if you no sell it. There is also a $40 photo fee for ad photos. If you hire an agent, then you must pay their fee as well. Usually it is a very hectic time, but we always have a lot of fun and look forward to it every year. Good luck!
            Quicksilver Farms, LLC
            "Welsh Hunter Ponies"
            Welsh Sec. B Stallions and
            Fancy Show Pony Prospects


            • #7
              I think it's a great sale too! But I did see some kids trying ponies that were "interesting" riders, the ones who were nice and safe the whole time sold very well


              • #8
                Oh yes. There are some kids there that will try every pony in the sale practically. You must be very careful and set limits as to how many kids and for how long your pony can be tried - it can be a zoo - and your pony can suffer for it if you are not careful.
                Quicksilver Farms, LLC
                "Welsh Hunter Ponies"
                Welsh Sec. B Stallions and
                Fancy Show Pony Prospects


                • #9
                  A piece of advice that was given to me: it doesn't matter so much how far along your pony is (but should jump a Xrail) but whatever you claim it can do MUST be able to be done by a child. If you say it can w-t-c,then a child must be able to doit. If you say it has its changes, than a child should be able to get them. Makes sense to me.


                  • #10
                    I wonder if the sale will be a bit different this year, due to the economy. Anyone think there'll be an even greater (than usual--not that there aren't usually) percentage of made show ponies with significant records (vs. fancy prospects)? Just wondering because so many ponies with decent mileage still aren't selling (market glut, maybe--but I don't know, really), so perhaps more will enter the sale after having tried unsuccessfully to sell privately? I wonder, if that seemed to be happening as the entries came in, if the auction might accept only the most outstanding younger ponies (speculation based on assuming that made ponies would sell for the highest premiums vs. all but the most exceptional younger ones)?
                    Sportponies Unlimited
                    Athletic Thoroughbred crosses for the highly motivated, smaller rider.


                    • #11
                      Originally posted by quicksilverponies View Post
                      Oh yes. There are some kids there that will try every pony in the sale practically. You must be very careful and set limits as to how many kids and for how long your pony can be tried - it can be a zoo - and your pony can suffer for it if you are not careful.

                      make very very careful note of what QS says here....unlike the other PAS horse sales where people don't ride unless they are really interested in an animal, the pony sales bring out every "tire kicking look how great my kid rides wanna be big on the B circuit" trainer and show mama in the world...

                      and IF you decline little Caitlyn's (and all 12 other spellings of the name) request for a "kick and jerk" session, then they consider that you are hiding something and tell the whole world....

                      be very very careful

                      Production Acres,Pro A Welsh Cobs
                      I am one of the last 210,000 remaining full time farmers in America.We feed the others.


                      • #12
                        You're welcome to discuss the auction in general, but please keep the specific details re: ponies currently for sale out of the thread to comply with the no-advertising policy.

                        Mod 1


                        • #13
                          FYI This is probably the case with most auctions, but once your entry is accepted, if you sale it yourself before the auction you still have to pay the auction.


                          • Original Poster

                            Thanks guys.

                            I live in Oklahoma and Kentucky isn't that bad of a trip from here. Plus it would be fun to see everything. I am thinking about trying to do the 2010 Pony Auction with this gelding. Mod... didn't mean for my description to sound like a sale ad... it was more to show the one poster that he wasn't a little QH but something that is bred for this kinda thing. The little guy won't even been for sale until I get him going over fences, etc.

                            Looks like that sale might be something to keep on the horizon.

                            ~ Jus Passed My Zipper aka Spanky, 11yo QH gelding.
                            ~ Muskogee, 2yo Oldenburg Colt.


                            • #15
                              For those of you with experience selling through this sale, how do you limit the number of rides on your pony? How do you weed through the tire kickers to only allow trials on the pony from legit trainers? I've seen some very nice ponies just get used and abused to the point where they "demo" very badly because they're over it. Ideas?


                              • #16
                                Originally posted by Jsalem View Post
                                For those of you with experience selling through this sale, how do you limit the number of rides on your pony? How do you weed through the tire kickers to only allow trials on the pony from legit trainers? I've seen some very nice ponies just get used and abused to the point where they "demo" very badly because they're over it. Ideas?

                                I'd be interested in the answer to this as well. I have a 5 year old small that I would like to enter in the auction. I've been very careful with her so far and I don't want her ruined if I end up bringing her back home. She knows her job thus far but is still too green to let every tire kicking kid/show mom practice on . Couldn't I let my daughter do the demo ride and a select few others? Does the hired sales agent typically screen trials? My pony won't be the fanciest and best bred but she'll hold her own. I just don't want to put her at a disadvantage either.

                                I feel like the economy is already a big strike against me.


                                • #17
                                  sorry mods, i just wanted to see if people thought she was a good candidate for the sale since it is such a long trip, i would hate to drive the what, 16 hours and find out that isnt the kind of pony that sells good at the auction.

                                  Do you guys think that the ponies are selling as high as they did in previous years?


                                  • #18
                                    Regardless of the economy, you will always have some that sell high. Most of the time it's all about who consigns them.
                                    Randee Beckman ~Otteridge Farm, LLC (http://on.fb.me/1iJEqvR)~ Marketing Manager - The Clothes Horse & Jennifer Oliver Equine Insurance Specialist


                                    • #19
                                      If you don't know if your pony fits the bill to sale well, then send Tim a video and he will give you an honest opinion. I would expect that after the success of last year's sale, that PAS will be very selective on what they take in '09. The key to last year's success is that folks who normally would pay over 100K were "on a budget" and were tickled to get a great pony for 50K (a great price for this sale). The good news is that gas and hotels prices are down because of the economy and if you've never gone, it's a great show. And I don't know where it will be next year because of the WEG...


                                      • #20
                                        Pony Finals -- sire/breeding is desireable?

                                        I have a 4 year old pony, but he isn't ready to enter the show/auction ring....we are just getting him started. Right now he is your typical youngster and tries to get away with things until you tell him your the boss...not him. So for this reason I wouldn't consider putting him in this type of auction. I'm not really into the "who's who" of sires/breeding....and he may not be "fancy" enough for this auction in the first place, although i did have a trainer last year tell me that she'd work with him and if I decided to sell him she'd take him to the pony finals auction in ky.....so, I am assuming this is the same one.....can someone give me some pointers or advise? Thanks.