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What to use under a Mattes half pad??

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  • What to use under a Mattes half pad??

    At home I just use a baby pad under my half pad but what do you use at a show? I need the half pad for my horse's comfort but using a fleece pad under that seems like overkill and I can't find a non-fleece show pad anywhere. Any suggestions?

  • #2
    We use nothing under it. Just the half pad.

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    • #3
      Most people I know don't use anything but the half pad...

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      • #4
        Can't you just show in the half pad? If you're doing hunters or must have a shaped pad then why not buy a shaped full sheepskin pad, instead of a half pad. That would be less bulky than a fleece pad under a half pad.

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          Originally posted by Best View View Post
          Most people I know don't use anything but the half pad...
          huh, i honestly didn't know you could do that...

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          • #6
            I use this one.

            I use this one from Dover. It's thin like a baby pad under your half pad and fleece under the flaps. It's worked great for my horse.

            http://www.doversaddlery.com/product...9&zmap=X1-1922

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              #7
              Of course, I'd love to buy a full sheepskin pad but in the effort of conserving $$$ I'd prefer not to if I don't have to. I do the hunters so is just a half pad appropriate in the hunters?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Dapple Dawn Farm View Post
                Of course, I'd love to buy a full sheepskin pad but in the effort of conserving $$$ I'd prefer not to if I don't have to. I do the hunters so is just a half pad appropriate in the hunters?
                Just a half pad was all the rage in the hunters not too long ago.

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                • #9
                  Check out my profile picture. That's my old hunter, and that's the Mattes pad we showed in. He won everywhere (rated AA shows), so there is no problem showing in a half pad in the hunters!!!

                  Edited to add: I used a baby pad under it at home, but used the saddlefitting Mattes pad with my custom County. I prefer a full pad, but have no problem with a 1/2 pad if it works better. My trainer doesn't like a 1/2 pad in the big eq, but as an adult that was never an issue.
                  Originally posted by tidy rabbit
                  Oh, well, clearly you're not thoroughly indoctrinated to COTH yet, because finger pointing and drawing conclusions are the cornerstones of this great online community.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Dapple Dawn Farm View Post
                    Of course, I'd love to buy a full sheepskin pad but in the effort of conserving $$$ I'd prefer not to if I don't have to. I do the hunters so is just a half pad appropriate in the hunters?
                    IMO, no. I hate the look of just a half pad, I've also seen some horses who did show in just that get blisters/sores on their sides, since they were used to having a pad protect their sides from saddle friction.
                    I showed a horse who needed a half pad at all times in a regular shaped pad with a Equifit fleece pad on top, one the saddle was on, it didn't look 'off' at all!

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by heartinrye View Post
                      I've also seen some horses who did show in just that get blisters/sores on their sides, since they were used to having a pad protect their sides from saddle friction
                      This boggles my mind. You know that sheepskin is actually supposed to be GOOD for a horse's back, right?! That's the whole point of sheepskin half pads.

                      I guess I could see a rare horse here or there that is allergic to sheepskin or MELP or something, but 99.9% of horses don't need "protection" from a sheepskin pad. The sheepskin has better moisture evaporation/wicking and shock absorption than a cotton saddle pad. Sheepskin is actually applied to wound that need to be protected while they heal.

                      I am incredulous that you saw horses that got blisters/sores from going in a sheepskin saddle pad. BLISTERS? SORES? MUTLIPLE (unrelated?) horses? If that's the case, I am guessing there was either some OUTRAGEOUSLY bad saddle fit going on there exacerbated by dirt trapped under the pad, and it was a mere coincidence that the rubs happened after a ride with just the sheepskin, or else there was an allergy issue. I think it's far, far more likely that the reaction was caused by an allergy to whatever the sheepskin was washed in rather than the sheepskin itself.

                      OP, use the sheepskin half pad by itself, that's what its designed for!
                      ~Veronica
                      "The Son Dee Times" "Sustained" "Somerset" "Franklin Square"
                      http://photobucket.com/albums/y192/vxf111/

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                      • #12
                        Why would there be more saddle friction with a saddle and sheepskin half pad as compared to a saddle, sheepskin half pad, and thin baby pad? Thin baby pads offer nearly NO additional width that might fill out a tree, they don't really offer shock absorption, they're not non-slip-- they just mostly keep the half pad clean.
                        ~Veronica
                        "The Son Dee Times" "Sustained" "Somerset" "Franklin Square"
                        http://photobucket.com/albums/y192/vxf111/

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                          Originally posted by vxf111 View Post
                          This boggles my mind. You know that sheepskin is actually supposed to be GOOD for a horse's back, right?! That's the whole point of sheepskin half pads.

                          I guess I could see a rare horse here or there that is allergic to sheepskin or MELP or something, but 99.9% of horses don't need "protection" from a sheepskin pad. The sheepskin has better moisture evaporation/wicking and shock absorption than a cotton saddle pad. Sheepskin is actually applied to wound that need to be protected while they heal.

                          I am incredulous that you saw horses that got blisters/sores from going in a sheepskin saddle pad. BLISTERS? SORES? MUTLIPLE (unrelated?) horses? If that's the case, I am guessing there was either some OUTRAGEOUSLY bad saddle fit going on there exacerbated by dirt trapped under the pad, and it was a mere coincidence that the rubs happened after a ride with just the sheepskin, or else there was an allergy issue. I think it's far, far more likely that the reaction was caused by an allergy to whatever the sheepskin was washed in rather than the sheepskin itself.

                          OP, use the sheepskin half pad by itself, that's what its designed for!

                          I'm one of those that doesn't like the concept of using just a half pad... I'm pretty sure the previous poster meant sores where the saddle flap hit. A half pad only protects the bottom side of the saddle... not the saddle flap!
                          I can see how in hot weather, leather on skin with friction (if the saddle was too tight for example) would cause some damage...
                          Yikes...
                          Either way, I'd use a smaller contoured pad so that it is less noticable under your saddle flap...
                          Coming from jumper la-la land... I just use a regular (well nice show one) pad under mine...
                          Proudly living in my "let's save the world bubble"!

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                            #14
                            I'm guessing that "heartinrye" meant that they got rubs on the sides of the horse where there is no pad (half pad) and was where the saddle leather was in contact with the horse.

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                            • #15
                              vxf111 I think she meant the horse got irritated/rubs on the area that the half pad doesn't cover, (the part normally covered by a full shaped or square pad) at least that is how I took it to mean, maybe I'm wrong.

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                                #16
                                Oh jumpingmaya you beat me on the post...

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                                • #17
                                  Originally posted by jumpingmaya View Post
                                  I'm one of those that doesn't like the concept of using just a half pad... I'm pretty sure the previous poster meant sores where the saddle flap hit. A half pad only protects the bottom side of the saddle... not the saddle flap!
                                  I can see how in hot weather, leather on skin with friction (if the saddle was too tight for example) would cause some damage...
                                  Yikes...
                                  Either way, I'd use a smaller contoured pad so that it is less noticable under your saddle flap...
                                  Coming from jumper la-la land... I just use a regular (well nice show one) pad under mine...
                                  Pre-80s, folks showed in no pad at all! I wonder how horses survived?

                                  I used to, and I know plenty of people who showed in plain 1/2 pads. My horse Shane is the princess and the pea, he gets hives just looking at a tick-- he never once got a rub from a saddle flap. Let alone a SORE or BLISTER! Clean tack shouldn't rub under normal conditions, and if the horse is that sensitive-- then a half pad isn't a good idea-- but that's different than saying the SHEEPSKIN PAD caused the sore. Maybe I misinterpreted/misread... and a sore/blister? Not a rub but a SORE!? I've known horses to get rubs from ill fitting tack but to get a blister/sore, after one day?! Seems like more than just a typical rub going on there?!

                                  If I misinterpreted, I am sorry. But I guess the comment is that some horses are sensitive enough that they need something between the entire saddle flap and the body. That has nothing to do with sheepskin pads per sae. A Beval wool 1/2 pad would be just as much of an issue for horses sensitive in that way.

                                  But plenty, PLENTY of horses can go in sheepskin 1/2 pads with no buffer underneath and be fine. 4-5 years ago, that was all the rage at shows. I never saw any horses with blisters or sores under the flap. I think you know your own horse's skin sensitivity level.
                                  ~Veronica
                                  "The Son Dee Times" "Sustained" "Somerset" "Franklin Square"
                                  http://photobucket.com/albums/y192/vxf111/

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                                  • #18
                                    I'm with vxf. Unless the horse is ridiculously sensitive or the tack is dirty or ill fitting, there shouldn't be problems with sores on the horse's sides from using just a half pad. That inside flap is not called "the sweat flap" for nothing.
                                    Head Geek at The Saddle Geek Blog http://www.thesaddlegeek.com/

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                                    • #19
                                      Originally posted by vxf111 View Post
                                      This boggles my mind. You know that sheepskin is actually supposed to be GOOD for a horse's back, right?! That's the whole point of sheepskin half pads.

                                      I guess I could see a rare horse here or there that is allergic to sheepskin or MELP or something, but 99.9% of horses don't need "protection" from a sheepskin pad. The sheepskin has better moisture evaporation/wicking and shock absorption than a cotton saddle pad. Sheepskin is actually applied to wound that need to be protected while they heal.

                                      I am incredulous that you saw horses that got blisters/sores from going in a sheepskin saddle pad. BLISTERS? SORES? MUTLIPLE (unrelated?) horses? If that's the case, I am guessing there was either some OUTRAGEOUSLY bad saddle fit going on there exacerbated by dirt trapped under the pad, and it was a mere coincidence that the rubs happened after a ride with just the sheepskin, or else there was an allergy issue. I think it's far, far more likely that the reaction was caused by an allergy to whatever the sheepskin was washed in rather than the sheepskin itself.

                                      OP, use the sheepskin half pad by itself, that's what its designed for!
                                      heartinrye said the horses got blisters and sores on their SIDES b/c there was no pad between their SIDES and the saddle. I don't think she meant to imply the horses got sores from the half pad itself, but from the saddle areas that were not covered by a half pad....


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                                      • #20
                                        Originally posted by vxf111 View Post

                                        If I misinterpreted, I am sorry. But I guess the comment is that some horses are sensitive enough that they need something between the entire saddle flap and the body. That has nothing to do with sheepskin pads per sae. A Beval wool 1/2 pad would be just as much of an issue for horses sensitive in that way.

                                        But plenty, PLENTY of horses can go in sheepskin 1/2 pads with no buffer underneath and be fine. 4-5 years ago, that was all the rage at shows. I never saw any horses with blisters or sores under the flap. I think you know your own horse's skin sensitivity level.
                                        I don't think the horses would get sores from the sheepskin... a previous poster had stated that she had seen horses get sore when only ridden in them. Upon reading other posts questioning it, I just said I'm sure she meant from the part where there is no sheepskin, a horse could get rubbed. I agree with you that a saddle should be fine with just a 1/2 pad, unless it is way too narrow, then could rub the horse raw because of the saddle flaps running.
                                        However my personal opinion is: I don't exactly like the look of it...
                                        Sheepskin is supposed to be great on horse's skin... not questioning that aspect.
                                        Proudly living in my "let's save the world bubble"!

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