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Why can't "good" colleges have equestrian degree programs..

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  • Why can't "good" colleges have equestrian degree programs..

    I'm not trying to bash them or any thing, but those current universities with equestrian degree programs, are, for the most part, horse schools.

    I mean, if I don't make it professionally, I'm not going to have a whole bunch of people calling me saying "work for us, we're always looking for people who went to virginia intermont (no offense to said school"

    So why can't schools like Emory, Wake Forest, Boston College, etc...have equestrian studeies degree programs?

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    #2
    I'm not trying to bash them or any thing, but those current universities with equestrian degree programs, are, for the most part, horse schools.

    I mean, if I don't make it professionally, I'm not going to have a whole bunch of people calling me saying "work for us, we're always looking for people who went to virginia intermont (no offense to said school"

    So why can't schools like Emory, Wake Forest, Boston College, etc...have equestrian studeies degree programs?

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    • #3
      UC Davis has Equine Science...

      That's the only one I've found...

      So, obviously, you can't limit your schools based on what has an equine science program.

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      • #4
        St. Andrew's Presbyterian does [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif[/img] [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif[/img] [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif[/img]

        Hey, it was named one of the top 10 life changing colleges...and it's not cold!

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        • #5
          Delaware Valley College is a "good" college and is not just a "horse school". The equine science program is just a part of its extensive agricultural program and the college is also known for its extensive business, computer, small animal science, and criminal justice majors to name a few.

          While it may not be a Harvard or big State University, it is a lovely private college with a beautiful campus and diverse program. It is also one of the top ten safest college campuses in the US.

          Plus, Mel Gibson just finished filming his new movie "Lines" on the college's campus farms!

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          • #6
            I believe the major at UC Davis is Animal Science, and a lot of schools hav that major.

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            • #7
              http://www.horsecandy.com/links/colleges.htm
              here is a good link as well as www.horseschools.com

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              • #8
                The najor is Animal Science, but they have a separate equine science program within the animal science major.

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                • #9
                  I went to Lake Erie College and I think that was a very nice college. I got a first rate education and didn't have to stop riding.

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                  • #10
                    If you don't mean to offend anyone, than don't single out a school, please.

                    If VI isn't good enough for you, then try your luck at UMass at Amherst, or the University of Kentucky. I hope you have the GPA and the SAT score to put where your mouth is.

                    If I sound snipey, I AM! [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_mad.gif[/img]

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                    • #11
                      Yeah- I have been there. I looked at St. Andrews, Delaware Valley, Averett College, Centenary College, Umass, UK, and UNC. I was thinking about an equine scinece/studies program. I finally narrowed it down to UMASS, UK, AND UNC. I wanted to bring my horse with me, so therefore the cheapest for me was UNC. I love my school and I ride my horse everyday. I am also on the Equestrian Team- a whole different world for me- but its still fun. I figured that going to UNC for the first 2 years and getting a great gerneral education for cheaper (i am in state) was the best plan for now. Then- if I still wanted equine sci/studies, I coudl transfer. I really liked UMass and Delval's program and barn was really nice too. I have shown at St. andrews with the eq. team- very very nice ppl there. The cool thing is that they have i think 5 eq. teams and evena therapuetic riding program. If you ahve any questions- let me know. I would be happy to answer them. [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img]
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                      • #12
                        unceventer, unless I end up getting dragged to University of Florida, I really want to go to St. Andrews. Just curious, but why did you choose not to go there?

                        And sticking up for poor ponyperson, Pat, he actually is a very good student. His main goal is to get to the best college he can get into (which will probably be a pretty good one too). I'm sure he wasn't trying to put anyone down, just asking what the best education he can get while still being involved in horses is.

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                        • #13
                          3.6 GPA as a junior in HS.

                          Perhaps pony person was just showing his age.

                          He came off as snotty and obnoxious to me. My feathers would be equally ruffled if someone commented about my BF going to Fordham instead of an Ivy League. Still damn smart, thanks.

                          I was insulted, thank you. I've undured enough equine program bashing already. Remember little ones, I may have gone to a small school in the south, but I am a GRADUATE, ya'll are still undergrads to me. And I did it without putting my parents in the poor house to boot.

                          BTW, if you don't already have what it takes, college isn't going to fix that. The theory and lessons are great, but it's determination, talent, patience, and the ability to pull it together with the education that makes the wannabe into a pro. True of farm managers as well as riders.

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                          • #14
                            OK I really don't want to get into an argument here, but I think you're taking this the wrong way.

                            Ponyperson was not bashing equine studies, in fact, he was asking positive questions about them and how he wants to go to one. What he was asking was why the TOP schools don't have equine science degrees. He never said these schools that offer the programs are BAD, he was just asking if the best schools in the country offer them.

                            And personally, I see his point. If you had a choice, and both schools offered equine programs, would you pick Yale or Cazenovia College? Don't get me wrong, Cazenovia is a great school I'm sure, in fact I've been seriously looking at it, and I'd probably be fixed on it if it wasn't so cold, but the level of education and the prestige of the school would play an important role if you were applying for a big and important job opening. And one wants to get the best education one can get, correct?

                            And I don't think you should even consider us undergrads yet. We are high-school students, looking forward to our future education.

                            As ponyperson said, "No offense to said school". Virginia Intermont IS a good, if not great, school. It was just used as an example, not used as the scapegoat.

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                            • #15
                              the decision you have to make is what is important to you. Ponyperson, an Equine Science degree is an equine science degree. If that is REALLY what you want to major in, there is NOTHING wrong with schools like Virginia Intermont, U of Findlay, etc that have huge riding programs. College is hard wherever you go, believe me.

                              If you really think there is a chance that you wont end up a trainer, go to the college you like the best, be it equestrian or not, and major in business. That'll help you run a barn, and if you dont end up a professional, you can still get a good job.

                              I'm a junior at Clemson. Its a tough school. We dont have any Equine majors (as far as I know). I chose to come here because I decided it was more important to me to go to a school that had my major than to go somewhere that had a riding program. I turned down a full scholarship to St. Andrews. (which, btw, Spaz00, is a great school- the campus is SO pretty) That was just my choice though.

                              But like I said theres nothing wrong with schools like VI, and every person I've ever met says a diploma is a diploma... once you're working in your field and if you can do the job well, no one REALLY cares where you went to school.

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                              • #16
                                CSU has an Equine Science major, where you can specialize in business or science. Most of the science specialists go on to be vets, or reproductive specialists, or research. The business specialists go on to be trainers, barn managers, or something like that. It is a very tough program.

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                                  #17
                                  I am sorry to come of obnixious or snotty, which I am not, in any sense of the words.

                                  If you really care to know, I am a sophmore, scored a 33 on my ACT, and a 1520 on my SAT, and have a GPA of 4.7.

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                                    #18
                                    Yeehaw-those were some excellent points.

                                    However, I don't feel that a diploma is a diploma, etc. I don't think I would necessarily learn more at say, Harvard, than I would at SAPC, or another "horsey" school-but getting a degree from Harvard-I doubt employers would consider it just a diploma.

                                    "I feel like I'm in the twilight zone, and everyone else is a pig. I'm the pretty one, but they think I'm ugly because they are pigs and they think pigs are pretty."
                                    \"Don\'t succumb to what is predictably yours\"-David Cale from \"Deep in a Dream of You\"

                                    \"How do you soar if you\'re nailed to the floor?\"-from Johnathan Larson\'s Tick Tick Boom

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                                    • #19
                                      I completely agree with what Yeehaw said about a business degree. By all means, apply to schools with equine degrees if that is what you want to do. But do not limit yourself to those colleges! You could be missing a college that is PERFECT for you just because it doesn't offer what you THINK you want right now.

                                      I am also a sophomore, and at first I thought I wanted to go to an equine school, but then I realized that nothing is certain in the horse business and a trainer/owner isn't going to hire you just b/c you have a B.S. in Equine Studies. A regular business degree is so much more... stable. You can do anything you want with a business degree, including be a trainer. You'll have all the skills needed to manage, and like Pat said, you better have the rest already.

                                      May I suggest Wharton @ UPenn, it is an INCREDIBLE business school and it is in proximity to several top trainers. Personally for me, when I start to look at colleges, I'm not going to search for one with an equine program or even an IHSA team. I've done the intercollegiate thing, thanks but no thanks. Rather, I'm going to see what kind of impression the place makes on me, and then try and find a great barn near by. Don't limit yourself just to that degree, you could change your mind at any time and be screwed.

                                      Stepping off my soapbox.

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                                        #20
                                        G...Exactly!!! But why can't Warton have an equine dept, lol!

                                        I plan on going to the best school I get into...that is, the one closest to a top barn!

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                                        \"How do you soar if you\'re nailed to the floor?\"-from Johnathan Larson\'s Tick Tick Boom

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