• Welcome to the Chronicle Forums.
    Please complete your profile. The forums and the rest of www.chronofhorse.com has single sign-in, so your log in information for one will automatically work for the other. Disclaimer: The opinions expressed here are the views of the individual and do not necessarily reflect the views and opinions of The Chronicle of the Horse.

Announcement

Collapse

Forum rules and no-advertising policy

As a participant on this forum, it is your responsibility to know and follow our rules. Please read this message in its entirety.

Board Rules

1. You’re responsible for what you say.
As outlined in Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, The Chronicle of the Horse and its affiliates, as well Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd., the developers of vBulletin, are not legally responsible for statements made in the forums.

This is a public forum viewed by a wide spectrum of people, so please be mindful of what you say and who might be reading it—details of personal disputes are likely better handled privately. While posters are legally responsible for their statements, the moderators may in their discretion remove or edit posts that violate these rules. Users have the ability to modify or delete their own messages after posting, but administrators generally will not delete posts, threads or accounts upon request.

Outright inflammatory, vulgar, harassing, malicious or otherwise inappropriate statements and criminal charges unsubstantiated by a reputable news source or legal documentation will not be tolerated and will be dealt with at the discretion of the moderators.

2. Conversations in horse-related forums should be horse-related.
The forums are a wonderful source of information and support for members of the horse community. While it’s understandably tempting to share information or search for input on other topics upon which members might have a similar level of knowledge, members must maintain the focus on horses.

3. Keep conversations productive, on topic and civil.
Discussion and disagreement are inevitable and encouraged; personal insults, diatribes and sniping comments are unproductive and unacceptable. Whether a subject is light-hearted or serious, keep posts focused on the current topic and of general interest to other participants of that thread. Utilize the private message feature or personal email where appropriate to address side topics or personal issues not related to the topic at large.

4. No advertising in the discussion forums.
Posts in the discussion forums directly or indirectly advertising horses, jobs, items or services for sale or wanted will be removed at the discretion of the moderators. Use of the private messaging feature or email addresses obtained through users’ profiles for unsolicited advertising is not permitted.

Company representatives may participate in discussions and answer questions about their products or services, or suggest their products on recent threads if they fulfill the criteria of a query. False "testimonials" provided by company affiliates posing as general consumers are not appropriate, and self-promotion of sales, ad campaigns, etc. through the discussion forums is not allowed.

Paid advertising is available on our classifieds site and through the purchase of banner ads. The tightly monitored Giveaways forum permits free listings of genuinely free horses and items available or wanted (on a limited basis). Items offered for trade are not allowed.

Advertising Policy Specifics
When in doubt of whether something you want to post constitutes advertising, please contact a moderator privately in advance for further clarification. Refer to the following points for general guidelines:

Horses – Only general discussion about the buying, leasing, selling and pricing of horses is permitted. If the post contains, or links to, the type of specific information typically found in a sales or wanted ad, and it’s related to a horse for sale, regardless of who’s selling it, it doesn’t belong in the discussion forums.

Stallions – Board members may ask for suggestions on breeding stallion recommendations. Stallion owners may reply to such queries by suggesting their own stallions, only if their horse fits the specific criteria of the original poster. Excessive promotion of a stallion by its owner or related parties is not permitted and will be addressed at the discretion of the moderators.

Services – Members may use the forums to ask for general recommendations of trainers, barns, shippers, farriers, etc., and other members may answer those requests by suggesting themselves or their company, if their services fulfill the specific criteria of the original post. Members may not solicit other members for business if it is not in response to a direct, genuine query.

Products – While members may ask for general opinions and suggestions on equipment, trailers, trucks, etc., they may not list the specific attributes for which they are in the market, as such posts serve as wanted ads.

Event Announcements – Members may post one notification of an upcoming event that may be of interest to fellow members, if the original poster does not benefit financially from the event. Such threads may not be “bumped” excessively. Premium members may post their own notices in the Event Announcements forum.

Charities/Rescues – Announcements for charitable or fundraising events can only be made for 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organizations. Special exceptions may be made, at the moderators’ discretion and direction, for board-related events or fundraising activities in extraordinary circumstances.

Occasional posts regarding horses available for adoption through IRS-registered horse rescue or placement programs are permitted in the appropriate forums, but these threads may be limited at the discretion of the moderators. Individuals may not advertise or make announcements for horses in need of rescue, placement or adoption unless the horse is available through a recognized rescue or placement agency or government-run entity or the thread fits the criteria for and is located in the Giveaways forum.

5. Do not post copyrighted photographs unless you have purchased that photo and have permission to do so.

6. Respect other members.
As members are often passionate about their beliefs and intentions can easily be misinterpreted in this type of environment, try to explore or resolve the inevitable disagreements that arise in the course of threads calmly and rationally.

If you see a post that you feel violates the rules of the board, please click the “alert” button (exclamation point inside of a triangle) in the bottom left corner of the post, which will alert ONLY the moderators to the post in question. They will then take whatever action, or no action, as deemed appropriate for the situation at their discretion. Do not air grievances regarding other posters or the moderators in the discussion forums.

Please be advised that adding another user to your “Ignore” list via your User Control Panel can be a useful tactic, which blocks posts and private messages by members whose commentary you’d rather avoid reading.

7. We have the right to reproduce statements made in the forums.
The Chronicle of the Horse may copy, quote, link to or otherwise reproduce posts, or portions of posts, in print or online for advertising or editorial purposes, if attributed to their original authors, and by posting in this forum, you hereby grant to The Chronicle of the Horse a perpetual, non-exclusive license under copyright and other rights, to do so.

8. We reserve the right to enforce and amend the rules.
The moderators may delete, edit, move or close any post or thread at any time, or refrain from doing any of the foregoing, in their discretion, and may suspend or revoke a user’s membership privileges at any time to maintain adherence to the rules and the general spirit of the forum. These rules may be amended at any time to address the current needs of the board.

Please see our full Terms of Service and Privacy Policy for more information.

Thanks for being a part of the COTH forums!

(Revised 1/26/16)
See more
See less

Fake Tails

Collapse
X
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Fake Tails

    As someone returning to the show ring after more than twenty-five years I'm often surprised by which things have changed and which are still the same. One thing that I can't quite understand is the use of fake tails. When did this start and why and do people really think it looks good? I can see maybe using one if a horse has a particularly damaged or unattractive tail but what's the point otherwise? I find it distracting to watch a horse go around with an obviously fake tail.

  • #2
    Originally posted by EAY View Post
    As someone returning to the show ring after more than twenty-five years I'm often surprised by which things have changed and which are still the same. One thing that I can't quite understand is the use of fake tails. When did this start and why and do people really think it looks good? I can see maybe using one if a horse has a particularly damaged or unattractive tail but what's the point otherwise? I find it distracting to watch a horse go around with an obviously fake tail.
    That's the thing -- you only "notice" them if they are bad. The dozens of good fakes that are well matched and properly attached aren't noticed. You simply think "My, that horse looks good."

    My horse wore a fake and I absolutely 100% promise you that you wouldn't have known.

    I mean, we're talking hunter fakes here, right? Not those WP atrocities. Those are a different story completely.
    Originally posted by tidy rabbit
    Oh, well, clearly you're not thoroughly indoctrinated to COTH yet, because finger pointing and drawing conclusions are the cornerstones of this great online community.

    Comment


    • #3
      I agree if it is done correctly, it should look great and you shouldn't notice it. Although, I don't feel they work for horses with really short/ scraggley tails becuase you can see the wig through the horse's naturally whispy tail. In those cases, is it better to see the wig obviously? Not braid the tail? Mudtail?
      Eight Fences Farm. Mansfield, MA

      Comment


      • #4
        Just wanted to add that the tail doesn't need to be braided for the fake to be attached. My horse wore his fake every day but was only braided one day a weekend.

        I wasn't sure if everyone knew that. I didn't until my braider told me and showed me how to put the tail in.
        Originally posted by tidy rabbit
        Oh, well, clearly you're not thoroughly indoctrinated to COTH yet, because finger pointing and drawing conclusions are the cornerstones of this great online community.

        Comment


        • #5
          I agree that you shouldnt be able to notice the fake tail. I have one for my mare. She has a lovely thick tail up top but it thins out at the bottom, so I use a very small 1/4 lb tail. Its just enough to fill out the bottom and look very natural.

          I once went to a line show and there was a horse in the ring with an obvious fake tail.. its all you noticed and I think took away from the horse. Though looking at him after, I noticed several "issues" that the handler was likely trying to hide. but it was also attached wronf and every time he lifted his tail you could see the natural tail and fake seperate.. it looked really bad.
          Love and Laughter - 2005 TB Mare - Boss Mare
          Foxfire Lacey - 2007 Half Welsh Superstar
          New Sensation - 1986- 2014 Love you to the moon and back

          Comment


          • #6
            Originally posted by EAY View Post
            . One thing that I can't quite understand is the use of fake tails. When did this start and why and do people really think it looks good?
            You were looking at fake tails 25 years ago and just did not know it because they were high quality and properly "installed".

            Nothing new.
            When opportunity knocks it's wearing overalls and looks like work.

            The horse world. Two people. Three opinions.

            Comment


            • #7
              As an 'installer', I can tell you there are WAY more fake tails now than ever. 20 years ago, not ten per cent of my horses had fake tails. Now, probably 3/4 of them do. You notice them more now, because those awful braided together at the top and too short and banged off at the bottom tails were sold by Bevals and Dover and were relatively inexpensive. It seems everyone got one and no one cared if it was the right thing.

              The problem now is too many horses are walking around with overly large tails and the horse with a regular sized good tail suddenly looks like it doesn't have enough, when in reality, the other horses have too much.

              Fake tails are like boob jobs: if you can tell, you did too much.
              *****
              You will not rise to the occasion, you will default to your level of training.

              Comment


              • #8
                Originally posted by Midge View Post
                Fake tails are like boob jobs: if you can tell, you did too much.

                Comment


                • #9
                  Originally posted by Midge View Post
                  You notice them more now, because those awful braided together at the top and too short and banged off at the bottom tails were sold by Bevals and Dover and were relatively inexpensive. It seems everyone got one and no one cared if it was the right thing.
                  I try to do my part! Every time someone posts about where to buy a fake tail I always say "have your braider mix one for you."

                  Sometimes they just won't listen...

                  And your boob analogy was PERFECT!
                  Originally posted by tidy rabbit
                  Oh, well, clearly you're not thoroughly indoctrinated to COTH yet, because finger pointing and drawing conclusions are the cornerstones of this great online community.

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Midge View Post

                    Fake tails are like boob jobs: if you can tell, you did too much.
                    Too funny! And true.

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Midge View Post
                      As an 'installer', I can tell you there are WAY more fake tails now than ever. 20 years ago, not ten per cent of my horses had fake tails. Now, probably 3/4 of them do. You notice them more now, because those awful braided together at the top and too short and banged off at the bottom tails were sold by Bevals and Dover and were relatively inexpensive. It seems everyone got one and no one cared if it was the right thing.

                      The problem now is too many horses are walking around with overly large tails and the horse with a regular sized good tail suddenly looks like it doesn't have enough, when in reality, the other horses have too much.

                      Fake tails are like boob jobs: if you can tell, you did too much.
                      I totally agree.

                      When I got my current hunter, I was thrilled because he has a beautiful tail. (All my previous horses have been a little tail-hair-challenged, LOL.) I was amazed when my then-trainer suggested buying him a tail!

                      I admit that when he is standing next to those "double D's" in the ring, his tail doesn't look as full... but he goes "natural" anyway. I keep hoping that the WP pleasure look will fall from grace one of these days; some of those horses just look odd with enough tail hair for a mini herd...
                      **********
                      We move pretty fast for some rabid garden snails.
                      -PaulaEdwina

                      Comment


                      • #12
                        Where is a place to get a good tail??

                        Comment


                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Midge View Post
                          Fake tails are like boob jobs: if you can tell, you did too much.
                          HAHA!
                          www.justworldinternational.org

                          Comment


                          • #14
                            Originally posted by ExJumper View Post
                            I try to do my part! Every time someone posts about where to buy a fake tail I always say "have your braider mix one for you."

                            Sometimes they just won't listen...
                            Originally posted by Star_Bound View Post
                            Where is a place to get a good tail??
                            The irony
                            Originally posted by barka.lounger
                            u get big old crop and bust that nags ass the next time it even slow down.

                            we see u in gp ring in no time.

                            Comment


                            • #15
                              Originally posted by kellyb View Post
                              The irony
                              What about the few of us who braid our own and don't know a braider? I braid my own, my horse does need a little fill, and I have no clue how/where to get one! I have not needed one yet but will need one eventually. So I don't think that is a stupid question.
                              There is something about the outside of a horse that is good for the inside of a man. ~Winston Churchill

                              No hour of life is wasted that is spent in the saddle. ~Winston Churchill

                              Comment


                              • #16
                                Originally posted by TweedADeedle View Post
                                What about the few of us who braid our own and don't know a braider? I braid my own, my horse does need a little fill, and I have no clue how/where to get one! I have not needed one yet but will need one eventually. So I don't think that is a stupid question.
                                I didn't say it was stupid, I said it was ironic.
                                Originally posted by barka.lounger
                                u get big old crop and bust that nags ass the next time it even slow down.

                                we see u in gp ring in no time.

                                Comment


                                • #17
                                  Originally posted by TweedADeedle View Post
                                  What about the few of us who braid our own and don't know a braider? I braid my own, my horse does need a little fill, and I have no clue how/where to get one! I have not needed one yet but will need one eventually. So I don't think that is a stupid question.
                                  Then go and talk to your friend's braider. She'll match it, mix it, make it, and show you how to install it.

                                  Lemme put it this way, if you show at a show big enough and nice enough to require a fake tail, there will be braiders roaming the grounds at all hours of the day. If you see someone walking around with multiple skeins of yarn exploding from her belt loops, flag her down.
                                  Originally posted by tidy rabbit
                                  Oh, well, clearly you're not thoroughly indoctrinated to COTH yet, because finger pointing and drawing conclusions are the cornerstones of this great online community.

                                  Comment


                                  • #18
                                    I had to use a fake on my mare when we showed the hunters - she had a beautiful tail when I got her and one day she just came in from the field with a little scraggly thing that barely came to her hocks. I have no idea what happened. So we bought a fake tail from a tack wagon at a show. It was really nice, not straight at the bottom, very natural-looking and you couldn't tell when we put it in. Horse had enough tail left to conceal it braided or unbraided, and mom grew up showing saddle horses, so she was kind of a pro at putting one in.
                                    http://www.chronicleofmyhorse.com/profile/Ashley26

                                    "You keep one leg on one side, the other leg on the other side, and your mind in the middle." -- Henry Taylor, "Riding Lesson"

                                    Comment


                                    • #19
                                      My old horse had no tail. It hit his hocks and that was it. I put tons of product in to make it grow...no such luck.

                                      New horse...has a nice tail and I never touch it. I actually had to cut it :faint: because it was dragging on the ground. However, it is thin and needs to be thickened. When I get to the level that it actually matters I will get him a fake tail. Right now, it doesn't matter.


                                      I also like the boob job analogy. At the one show series I do, the tails are so thick that is is obvious.
                                      Last edited by AppendixQHLover; Mar. 11, 2009, 09:05 AM. Reason: NEED more coffee....
                                      OTTB - Hurricane Denton - Kane - the big dog!
                                      Tuggy - RIP 9/12/2016 - Wait for me at the bridge
                                      Foster LolaMaria AKA LolaBean (Boxer)

                                      Comment


                                      • #20
                                        Breeding Classes YHUS

                                        Heres what I don't get, and mind you I am not against a fake tail piece to enhance "the picture".
                                        In the in hand classes or strip calasses the rules state you can't use fake anything???? So why @ Devon for instance was horse after horse being pinned w/ obvious fake tail pieces in the YHUS classes???
                                        One gray had such a huge abundance of tail if wet would have drug him down.
                                        No sour grapes mine pinned w/O one, because I left his off!

                                        Comment

                                        Working...
                                        X