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Elite hunter & GP jumper in one?

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  • #21
    Originally posted by MHM View Post
    Beautiful mover, too. He certainly could have done well in the hunter ring.

    I actually said that to Todd early on in the horse's career. He just laughed.
    He did the hunter judging clinic on him one year and he went over the fences beautifully....but was very, very fresh in the turns!
    He definitely had all the parts of a really nice hunter.

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    • #22
      Theoretically it should happen more than it does, but a truly high quality horse should be able to do both divisions to a decent level. In practice that doesn't work out as well, because hunters prize certain qualities that had practical roots in the hunter field, but don't make or break a horse's core athleticism (e.g. daisy cutter or square knees, like often jumpers have an even tighter but less aesthetic front end)
      "If we we couldn't laugh we'd all go insane, if we weren't all crazy we'd all go insane." ~Jimmy Buffet
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        #23
        Originally posted by Sparky View Post
        Laura Kraut rode a mare named May several years ago that was champion at our October Fall Harvest show in the first years, then was in the big jumper ring at WEF by Spring. But I don't know if she showed both h/j at the same time. She was gorgeous!
        Have a video of that horse in Indianapolis... interesting, 'cause I not only don't recall her having much of a hunter form, but also the fact that she put up the BIGGEST fight over open-water.
        A vaincre sans péril, on triomphe sans gloire.
        ~ImmortalSynn

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        • #24
          yeah there was a horse names filo fox that did working hunters then went on to do grand prix

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          • #25
            what about Cabardino? I know he does the 4 ft hunters right now and have seen pics of him in jumpers, before being imported as well as in his younger life. I guess not quite grand prix level though...

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            • #26
              Originally posted by In the Air View Post
              Golan did very well in both the Hunter ring and the Jumper ring.
              He did! Golan was reserve horse for the German Olympic show jumping team. He was a GP winner, Derby winner and also 4' Conformation Circuit Champion at WEF. He also was shown in the hunters and jumpers by an amateur and foxhunted.
              As is our confidence, so is our capacity. ~W. Hazlitt

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                #27
                Originally posted by can't re- View Post
                He did! Golan was reserve horse for the German Olympic show jumping team. He was a GP winner, Derby winner and also 4' Conformation Circuit Champion at WEF. He also was shown in the hunters and jumpers by an amateur and foxhunted.
                Who rode him at GP level?
                A vaincre sans péril, on triomphe sans gloire.
                ~ImmortalSynn

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                • #28
                  A horse that used to belong to one of my teammates (Noir, if anyone remembers him) initially started out as a Hunter, before becoming a successful Junior Jumper/Grand Prix horse.

                  He showed at Devon in the Green Conformation, but then went on to place in several $25,000+ Prixes, etc.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by ImmortalSynn View Post
                    Who rode him at GP level?
                    In Germany Franke Slootthak in the US Rodney Jenkins.

                    I wrote an article on Golan: scroll down -
                    GOLAN
                    As is our confidence, so is our capacity. ~W. Hazlitt

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                    • #30
                      Your Golan article was very nice. I rode Sale's horses at home and Golan was always my favorite to do. You could ride him bareback cross country and canter over the fence lines like it was nothing.

                      Sale used to use him to test out people who wanted to work for her. She would make them ride him without a stick or spur and if they could get him to canter they had a chance for a job. He loved to play "I'm a pokey small pony". You could kick and squeeze until you turned purple and he would just flick an ear back and ignore you and keep strolling along. It was a total scam to him. He had a great sense of humor. She loved that horse.

                      A grand horse.
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                      • #31
                        Cardinal. Also Fairman did both (and was a good equitation horse too)

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                        • #32
                          Starman was COTH show jumper horse of the year or something like that in the late 80's or 1990. The article about hism has photos of him jumping in the Olympics/at the GP level, and doing the conformation hunters at WEF. They are amazing.

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                          • #33
                            Wasn't Saint Nick (regular working horse) formerly of the jumper persuasion?
                            Originally posted by PeanutButterPony
                            you can shackle your pony to a lawn chair at the show...so long as its in a conservative color.

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                            • #34
                              Originally posted by Mayaty02 View Post
                              what about Cabardino? I know he does the 4 ft hunters right now and have seen pics of him in jumpers, before being imported as well as in his younger life. I guess not quite grand prix level though...

                              Thats who came to my mind also...

                              http://www.charlotfarm.com/2008%20Cabardino.htm

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                                #35
                                One that I always wanted to see in a hunter class would've been the stallion The Developer.

                                Even in big grands prix with Hap Hansen, this horse had such a beautiful jump... very round, very high (and even) knees. Would've losed to see him go in working.
                                A vaincre sans péril, on triomphe sans gloire.
                                ~ImmortalSynn

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                                • #36
                                  Rio Grande may have as well - I know he did jumpers and dressage.
                                  Hickstead 1996-2011 Godspeed
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                                  • #37
                                    Originally posted by BAC View Post
                                    Bold Minstrel was champion in the working and conformation divisions at MSG before winning a silver medal in the Olympics as an eventer. He then spent many years competing as one of Bill Steinkraus' mounts on the USEF and was very successful.
                                    What a great horse he was. I LOVE him.
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                                    • #38
                                      Originally posted by Fred View Post
                                      What a great horse he was. I LOVE him.
                                      Me too!
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                                      • #39
                                        Originally posted by Alterageous View Post
                                        Wasn't Saint Nick (regular working horse) formerly of the jumper persuasion?
                                        Yes, the Dutch stallion "Saint Nick" showed Grand Prix Jumpers under the name of "Hairos" (Democraat-Joost-Abgar) in Europe before he was imported to compete in the hunters here.

                                        He was very successful in the 3'6 Amatuer/Owners and 4' Workings here.

                                        I believe he has some offspring in Europe competing at Grand Prix Jumping.

                                        I only know about a few of his offspring in the USA. We have one coming in June.

                                        some info here: www.goshenhill.com
                                        Robin Stewart
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