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  • NO LUNGEING at Devon?

    I was reading the rules in the prize list and it clearly states:No LUNGEING ( their spelling) of horses at any time, anywhere on the showgrounds while the show is in session? Is this common at H/J shows?
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    I was reading the rules in the prize list and it clearly states:No LUNGEING ( their spelling) of horses at any time, anywhere on the showgrounds while the show is in session? Is this common at H/J shows?


    • #3
      I've never been to a show where lunging was "not allowed"!


      • #4
        I have never seen it in a prize list, but when there is limited space and a lot of people/horses around, it doesn't surprise me

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        • #5
          I do know it's not allowed in Germany, if that helps...

          Seriously though - I see it quite often at the Saddlebred shows.

          I assume at Devon it is a space issue.


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          • #6
            If you have ever been to Devon you would figure it out quickly. There is NO room for anything at Devon. It is such an old show ground that there is nothing around it except houses, a bank and a road. It is a four walled facility with no room for expansion. Literally all of the haulins pay to park in the side yard of the houses behind the grounds and you walk your horse down the resisential streets! It's CRAZY! If they allowed lounging there would be no room for riding!

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            • #7
              It's common practice at Devon (and Indoors) to lunge in the wee small hours of the morning. Once the show starts, there may be no space available, especially junior weekend at Devon, when both rings are in use for classes.


              • #8
                There has never been any lunging allowed during Devon show hours. There is absolutely no space!
                One horse lunging would take up a huge amount of the very limited space available for riding.


                • #9
                  I was with MsHunter on Breeding day when she had to lead her yearlings through a horse being lunged by the Gold Ring. NOT fun and the person doing the lungeing acted snotty when she asked to get past.

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                  • #10
                    Key words there are "while the show is in session". As MHM says, if yours needs a lunge, you get it done early in the morning or late at night.


                    • #11
                      It seems to me back when I showed "Piece O' Cake" at Devon there was some limited lunging at wee hours, where I am not sure as Ronnie Mutch's grooms did it, because my horse was not rideable if she did not get turnout or lunged. I know when the National was at the Garden, lunging was allowed in the wee hours, about 3 a.m. because I actually got up and lunged at that fine hour of the morning. Too bad it is off limits this year at Devon. I wonder how that would accommodate a disabled person whom needs their horse to be quite for safety reasons, especially with the drug and medication rules.


                      • #12
                        Anne, what is the Parrothead Clique? Just curious, I am a bird lover.


                        • #13
                          My guess is a disabled person would have a horse that was pretty darn bombproof. That it wouldn't have to be lunged to be quiet. That would be my guess at least.


                          • #14
                            Well, I don't know about the stereotype that a disabled person's horse would be "pretty darn bombproof," unless you are only thinking about the kinds of disabilities you can see which are physical disabilities. I have a combination of autistic spectrum/specific learning disabilities, impacted by cervical injury and my 17 hand TB jumper is definitely not "pretty darn bombproof;" in fact, he is so hot and sensitive I have yet to see someone able to jump him other than myself, but then while people with autistic spectrum disabilities are not very good at communicating and socially interacting with people they have a talent for communicating with animals. Even so, I would not want to ride him all cooped up in a stall, or he would be rearing and pawing the sky after about 3 days, and if I were to show him at Devon, I would therefore request accommodation to the lunging. There are many people with lots of disabilities who ride and use riding therapuetically as well, whom want a good horse like everyone else that is challenging for their skill level despite their disabilities. If a person with a physical injury or disability had to be confined to old bomproof nags because Devon doesn't allow lunging in any manner for safety, I would rather think that is a segregation to a lesser horse and lesser opportunity not allowed by the ADA. But beyond that, why would someone want to compromise safety in this insurance and litigation age anyway? Bad common sense and bad business. Don't get me wrong, I love Devon. It is just that sometimes people make these rules without using their brains to think about them first and the true impact on others. Hopefully, next years Devon will be more inclusive, as has been its tradition.


                            • #15
                              Cellos Pride, can you contribute to a topic without bringing up disabilities?

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                              • #16
                                <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by CellosPride:
                                I wonder how that would accommodate a disabled person whom needs their horse to be quite for safety reasons, especially with the drug and medication rules.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I'm probably going to get grilled for this, but here goes...

                                My horse can get pretty hot too, so it would be in the best interest of my safety for him to have a chance to blow off steam too.

                                And are you suggesting that the drug rules should be amended so that a disabled person can take the edge off their horse?

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                                • #17
                                  <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Pocket Pony:
                                  Cellos Pride, can you contribute to a topic without bringing up disabilities?

                                  In a word...no.

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                                  • #18
                                    So maybe people who are disadvantaged because they don't ride so well should be allowed to longe.....yeah, that's the ticket.

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                                    • #19
                                      "Too bad it is off limits this year at Devon. I wonder how that would accommodate a disabled person whom needs their horse to be quite for safety reasons, especially with the drug and medication rules."

                                      Cello, reread MHM's post and my post. Lunging is not off limits at Devon anymore than it ever has been. You are allowed to lunge to your heart's content AFTER the show is over or before it starts. Quite frankly, if I were competing at Devon and someone claimed they needed to lunge while the show was going on because they were "disabled", I would complain mightily. If everyone else can lunge at night or in the early morning, than you should make arrangements to do so, too.

                                      I'd love to show at Devon under that sign, but I don't do 3'6. Should I claim that I am disabled because I don't find the jumps as well as other riders do, and try to get USEF to let me show? I think not!!!

                                      Just so you know, Cello, I am all for accomodating people with legitimate disabilities in public places and in the workforce, as necessary. However, I don't think mainstream horse shows should have to bend over backwards to accomodate people who don't feel they should have to play by the rules.

                                      As for your other question, the Parrothead Clique refers to the musician Jimmy Buffett. A parrothead is a Jimmy Buffett fan and has nothing to do with actual avians.


                                      • #20
                                        Okay, I know I shouldn't even go here, but someone PLEASE explain to me how "no lungeing during show hours" is "bad common sense and bad business", as well as "compromising safety"?

                                        cellospride, people lungeing horses in the same place people are riding horses and handling youngsters is DANGEROUS. Period, end of story. So you are now suggesting that we put others in danger so that those with disabilities can lunge their horses so that *they* don't get hurt?

                                        That is one of the most bizarre arguments I've heard someone educated at law school make.