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At what stage does the stud girth get scratches

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  • At what stage does the stud girth get scratches

    I have a friend who does the hunters that swears that if the horse is jumping properly ie not over it's shoulder then there should be no need for a stud girth.. I disagree as I've worked with Grand Prix horses who wore stud girths covered in scratches from the studs in their hooves and always jumped in "proper" form.. My friend says that it should be the horses elbows, not their belly that should be in contact with the bottom of the hoof if the horse is jumping properly... Which got me thinking... I KNOW that stud girths are necessary but at what stage of the jump does the hoof touch the girth? The take off??? I've been looking for some
    Pics to show a horse with its hooves touching it's belly but can't seem to find one that illustrates the need for a stud girth

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    http://i2.wp.com/cdnolympic.files.wo...size=670%2C377

    http://www.boblangrish.com/images/tr...ympics2012.jpg

    http://media.gct.tv/cache/b8/ef/b8ef...20dd6e6e77.jpg

    when it's a tight distance...

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    • #3
      I think you're friend is forgetting that not all horses jump like a hunter. For a hunter they want the 'square' look. As in the upper leg parallel to the ground, and the cannon bone perpendicular to the ground.
      http://www.7photographyquestions.com...se_jumping.jpg

      Where as jumpers can use their front legs in any way they want. From knees pointed straight down (not the most common style for sure but some top level jumpers do jump this way), to the 'hunter look', to knees snapped up lower leg nearly touching upper leg.
      http://forum.motorcycle-usa.com/atta...ng%20Horse.jpg

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      • #4
        Even there though, it isn't hitting the stud girth.. I think the OP wants to know when a stud girth is actually hit...

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        • #5
          I was showing the differences in possible use of the horse's leg over jumps compared to the 'hunter look'
          Here is my boy. He never has been that great with his front end before (he's usually a hind end kinda horse) but for some reason this last summer he scraped his non belly girth a few times.
          https://scontent-b-sea.xx.fbcdn.net/...74468048_n.jpg

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          • #6
            I wish I could remember where I saw it, but there is a great video in slow motion of the mechanics of a jump. I too, had thought that if a horse was jumping in decent form, it couldn't touch its belly like that. But after the horse lifted from the ground, the front legs hit the belly guard as they rotated forward, before the apex of the jump. Over the fence, the horse was in great form, tight, with knees up.

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            • #7
              I would agree that generally the stud girth is hit on the way up I think rather than at the apex.

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              • #8
                Funny, when you look at pictures for that specific thing, you start to wonder if the belly girth should somehow be bigger to protect a larger area. Maybe some sort of whole undercarriage protection vest or something.

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                • #9
                  It's hit on the way up before the apex of the jump when the horse's legs are folded tightly IF that horse jumps in a style where its forelegs are underneath its body as opposed to in front of the chest (like a hunter).

                  If the horse is jumping properly for a hunter, it should not ever need a belly guard.
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                  • #10
                    Here's a good video of horses jumping in slow motion. You can see a few instances where their hooves come close if not touch that area.

                    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaNqXNavR8c
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                    • #11
                      http://www.horsejunkiesunited.com/?p=52111

                      Here's the showjumping from London 2012 in slow motion. I didn't watch it that closely but it'll definitely show the motion over some big jumps.

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