Forum rules and no-advertising policy

As a participant on this forum, it is your responsibility to know and follow our rules. Please read this message in its entirety.

Board Rules

1. You're responsible for what you say.
As outlined in Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, The Chronicle of the Horse and its affiliates, as well Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd., the developers of vBulletin, are not legally responsible for statements made in the Forums.

This is a public forum viewed by a wide spectrum of people, so please be mindful of what you say and who might be reading it--details of personal disputes may be better handled privately. While posters are legally responsible for their statements, the moderators may in their discretion remove or edit posts, though are not legally obligated to do so, regardless of content.

Users have the ability to modify or delete their own messages after posting. Moderators generally will not delete posts, threads or accounts unless they have been alerted and have determined that a post, thread or user has violated the Forums' policies. Moderators do not regularly independently monitor the Forums for such violations.

Profanity, outright vulgarity, blatant personal insults or otherwise inappropriate statements will not be tolerated and will be dealt with at the discretion of the moderators.

Users may provide their positive or negative experiences with or opinions of companies, products, individuals, etc.; however, accounts involving allegations of criminal behavior against named individuals or companies MUST be first-hand accounts and may NOT be made anonymously.

If a situation has been reported upon by a reputable news source or addressed by law enforcement or the legal system it is open for discussion, but if an individual wants to make their own claims of criminal behavior against a named party in the course of that discussion, they too must identify themselves by first and last name and the account must be first-person.

Criminal allegations that do not satisfy these requirements, when brought to our attention, may be removed pending satisfaction of these criteria, and we reserve the right to err on the side of caution when making these determinations.

Credible threats of suicide will be reported to the police along with identifying user information at our disposal, in addition to referring the user to suicide helpline resources such as 1-800-SUICIDE or 1-800-273-TALK.

2. Conversations in horse-related forums should be horse-related.
The forums are a wonderful source of information and support for members of the horse community. While it's understandably tempting to share information or search for input on other topics upon which members might have a similar level of knowledge, members must maintain the focus on horses.

3. Keep conversations productive, on topic and civil.
Discussion and disagreement are inevitable and encouraged; personal insults, diatribes and sniping comments are unproductive and unacceptable. Whether a subject is light-hearted or serious, keep posts focused on the current topic and of general interest to other participants of that thread. Utilize the private message feature or personal email where appropriate to address side topics or personal issues not related to the topic at large.

4. No advertising in the discussion forums.
Posts in the discussion forums directly or indirectly advertising horses, jobs, items or services for sale or wanted will be removed at the discretion of the moderators. Use of the private messaging feature or email addresses obtained through users' profiles for unsolicited advertising is not permitted.

Company representatives may participate in discussions and answer questions about their products or services, or suggest their products on recent threads if they fulfill the criteria of a query. False "testimonials" provided by company affiliates posing as general consumers are not appropriate, and self-promotion of sales, ad campaigns, etc. through the discussion forums is not allowed.

Paid advertising is available on our classifieds site and through the purchase of banner ads. The tightly monitored Giveaways forum permits free listings of genuinely free horses and items available or wanted (on a limited basis). Items offered for trade are not allowed.

Advertising Policy Specifics
When in doubt of whether something you want to post constitutes advertising, please contact a moderator privately in advance for further clarification. Refer to the following points for general guidelines:

Horses -- Only general discussion about the buying, leasing, selling and pricing of horses is permitted. If the post contains, or links to, the type of specific information typically found in a sales or wanted ad, and it's related to a horse for sale, regardless of who's selling it, it doesn't belong in the discussion forums.

Stallions -- Board members may ask for suggestions on breeding stallion recommendations. Stallion owners may reply to such queries by suggesting their own stallions, only if their horse fits the specific criteria of the original poster. Excessive promotion of a stallion by its owner or related parties is not permitted and will be addressed at the discretion of the moderators.

Services -- Members may use the forums to ask for general recommendations of trainers, barns, shippers, farriers, etc., and other members may answer those requests by suggesting themselves or their company, if their services fulfill the specific criteria of the original post. Members may not solicit other members for business if it is not in response to a direct, genuine query.

Products -- While members may ask for general opinions and suggestions on equipment, trailers, trucks, etc., they may not list the specific attributes for which they are in the market, as such posts serve as wanted ads.

Event Announcements -- Members may post one notification of an upcoming event that may be of interest to fellow members, if the original poster does not benefit financially from the event. Such threads may not be "bumped" excessively. Premium members may post their own notices in the Event Announcements forum.

Charities/Rescues -- Announcements for charitable or fundraising events can only be made for 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organizations. Special exceptions may be made, at the moderators' discretion and direction, for board-related events or fundraising activities in extraordinary circumstances.

Occasional posts regarding horses available for adoption through IRS-registered horse rescue or placement programs are permitted in the appropriate forums, but these threads may be limited at the discretion of the moderators. Individuals may not advertise or make announcements for horses in need of rescue, placement or adoption unless the horse is available through a recognized rescue or placement agency or government-run entity or the thread fits the criteria for and is located in the Giveaways forum.

5. Do not post copyrighted photographs unless you have purchased that photo and have permission to do so.

6. Respect other members.
As members are often passionate about their beliefs and intentions can easily be misinterpreted in this type of environment, try to explore or resolve the inevitable disagreements that arise in the course of threads calmly and rationally.

If you see a post that you feel violates the rules of the board, please click the �alert� button (exclamation point inside of a triangle) in the bottom left corner of the post, which will alert ONLY the moderators to the post in question. They will then take whatever action, or no action, as deemed appropriate for the situation at their discretion. Do not air grievances regarding other posters or the moderators in the discussion forums.

Please be advised that adding another user to your �Ignore� list via your User Control Panel can be a useful tactic, which blocks posts and private messages by members whose commentary you'd rather avoid reading.

7. We have the right to reproduce statements made in the forums.
The Chronicle of the Horse may copy, quote, link to or otherwise reproduce posts, or portions of posts, in print or online for advertising or editorial purposes, if attributed to their original authors, and by posting in this forum, you hereby grant to The Chronicle of the Horse a perpetual, non-exclusive license under copyright and other rights, to do so.

8. We reserve the right to enforce and amend the rules.
The moderators may delete, edit, move or close any post or thread at any time, or refrain from doing any of the foregoing, in their discretion, and may suspend or revoke a user's membership privileges at any time to maintain adherence to the rules and the general spirit of the forum. These rules may be amended at any time to address the current needs of the board.

Please see our full Terms of Service and Privacy Policy for more information.

Thanks for being a part of the COTH forums!

(Revised 5/9/18)
See more
See less

Best inexpensive alternative to Mattes correction pad?

  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

    Best inexpensive alternative to Mattes correction pad?

    My trainer let me use her Mattes correction pad today and I could definitely feel the difference in both myself and my horse when using it. However, I don't have $200+ to spend on a half pad. Is there anything similar for under $100? We were using it with the shims in the front.

    My CANTER cutie Chip and IHSA shows!

    Finding a used one on ebay! Honestly, once you go Mattes, you won't go back!
    "Punch him in the wiener. Then leave." AffirmedHope


      You can look into the Fleeceworks and Equine Comfort brands. They are less expensive, but the inserts are memory foam instead of wool (which I beleive the Mattes pad inserts are?). I had a Fleeceworks half pad and felt the memory foam shims compressed a little too much for my needs. I'm one of those people that bargain hunts for EVERYTHING but if you are going for something with shims I think the Mattes pad is really your best bet. If you were looking for a half pad without I think there are other brands comparable.


        find a used one, or wait for that one site that has the killer prices/sales to do another sale. The name is totally not coming to me though, so can someone else help me out?


          Fleeeworks, as long as it's big enough, and replace the shims with wool felt.


            I suggest saving up for the mattes...Ive tried them all, and I agree with "once you go mattes, you never go back"!


              Fleeceworks is awesome!


                Also try You can build one for cheaper than you can buy it for here in the US. The shipping is reasonable too. I bought one from them a few years ago. They also have stuff on sale though with those you buy the size and color combo they have. But it's a good place to keep an eye on for a good deal!


                  ^ I heard their shipping was hit or miss?? I would love to be wrong so I can get one, but the last thread had some unhappy folks.
                  COTH's official mini-donk enabler

                  "I am all for reaching out, but in some situations it needs to be done with a rolled up news paper." Alagirl


                    Thanks so much everyone! Of course it's that expensive for a reason, right? I would rather get a quality item than have to replace an inferior one. The upside is that DH offered to buy one for me for my birthday so I guess I'll just keep an eye out for sales!
                    My CANTER cutie Chip and IHSA shows!


                      Originally posted by TheJenners View Post
                      ^ I heard their shipping was hit or miss?? I would love to be wrong so I can get one, but the last thread had some unhappy folks.
                      I had no problems with mine when I bought it. Granted it's been a few years ago now and things could have changed!


                        What makes Mattes better then say fleece-works or thinline? I just bought a fleece-works pad from dover with the front foam shims. I did try the mattes pad and used all of the shims in the front and still didn't have enough for my saddle to fit right. I have also heard some great things about thinline pads too.


                          Originally posted by bluecharm7 View Post
                          What makes Mattes better then say fleece-works or thinline? I just bought a fleece-works pad from dover with the front foam shims. I did try the mattes pad and used all of the shims in the front and still didn't have enough for my saddle to fit right. I have also heard some great things about thinline pads too.
                          The sheepskin won't hold up nearly as well on a Fleeceworks compared to Mattes in my experience. Others have posted in the past as well about their Fleeceworks falling apart when washed. I found the video posted on the other similar thread about Mattes very interesting and suggest you watch it.


                            Oh what video??? I would like to see that!
                            COTH's official mini-donk enabler

                            "I am all for reaching out, but in some situations it needs to be done with a rolled up news paper." Alagirl


                              I have a really old fleeceworks pad, its a fullpad not halfpad, but its seen years and years of showing and still looks good.

                              I have a newer one as well, but the old one hasn't died yet and im pretty sure is well over ten years old.


                                I recently bought the new fleeceworks perfect balance wool half pad with the inserts as shown here:


                                I was hesitant to buy it because of the reviews from others on this board about fleeceworks not washing well. I spoke to Dover saddlery and they told me that with the wool sewn into the acrylic backing as shown in this version makes it much more suitable for washing and it holds up better.
                                The primary reason I wanted this pad is because I like the full insert panels with velcro closure. It is very easy to switch inserts in and out. I did not use the fleecworks inserts, I bought thinline inserts for the front and they give my horse the bit of lift he needs in the front and it is working perfectly!

                                The saddle fitter had suggested the Mattes correction pad and I searched endlessly for a good deal on a used one or on sale new and I could not find one for less than 200.00. The fleeceworks has turned out to be a good substitute for my purposes.


                                  I paid $100 for my Mattes correction pad. You can find them for reasonable prices.


                                    go to the fabric or craft store and buy some felt and cut and stick between saddle and saddle pad - works great. You can also get 10mm dense foam and cut shims out of them too.


                                      Originally posted by TheJenners View Post
                                      ^ I heard their shipping was hit or miss?? I would love to be wrong so I can get one, but the last thread had some unhappy folks.
                                      I know others have had issues, but I ordered a Mattes correction pad w/ rear trim a few months ago, and had no issues with the payment or shipping. It's identical to my other Mattes correction pad bought from SmartPak (one jump, one dressage).