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Who are you, what do you show in, and do you wear a shadbelly?

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  • Who are you, what do you show in, and do you wear a shadbelly?

    Hi there,

    I'm trying to better understand the circumstances around when you do and don't wear a shadbelly. At first I thought that you only wore them for hunter classics. That's it, period. But now, things have gotten more confusing. I've heard the following rumors:

    - Pony kids shouldn't wear shadbellies
    - You shouldn't wear a shadbelly in a hunter classic lower than 3'6
    - It doesn't matter what height it is, but you shouldn't wear a shadbelly in a classic that offers less than $5000.
    - You should wear a shadbelly on stake day AND in the classic, regardless of age/height/money
    - You should only wear a shadbelly for hunter derbies.

    Sooooooo, what I'm wondering is,
    what do you show in?
    How old are you (All I'm looking for here is are you under or over 18...or is it 21? See...more questions)?
    When do YOU wear your shad (regardless of the above rumors/rules...I wanna know what reality is for you)?
    When do you NOT wear your shad?

    Thanks!

  • #2
    I am 22, I showed in the A/Os (just sold my horse last week)
    I wear my shadbelly for classics depending on the size of the show. If my classic's second round is built into my division, meaning that in your group of three rotating the courses you will also be doing not just your first round but also your second round of the classic which usually means it is a smaller show, I will not wear my shadbelly. If I jog and then come back to do my second round in score order with the rest of the class I will put my shadbelly on.

    I have never shown in a stakes class that warranted a shadbelly. Most shows that I have shown in that have stakes classes people do not wear them, for example I used to go to the State College Show Series every year and there were always stakes classes, no one ever put on a shad.

    I always wear mine in derbies because there is usually a party atmosphere surrounding derbies and most people will be wearing them.

    When I showed in the Childrens Horses I only wore my shadbelly a handful of times, mainly because the childrens classics were not a big deal. Unless they were bringing us back separately to do the classic I would not wear my shadbelly.

    When I showed in the pony hunters I followed the same rule of thumb, classics that brought you back separately would mean I was in my shadbelly, these were usually (at least in my area) the AA shows.

    Basically I only wear my shad when I will have the time to go away and put it on and not have to change out of it to jog! The most horrendous thing I ever saw was when a girl decided to put on her shad for the first round of the classic (built into the division) and the proceeded to jog and do the hack in her shadbelly!

    Another rule of thumb I follow is ALWAYS bringing my shadbelly. I never know how big a classic might be til I get there so I tend to throw it in the truck just in case everyone else is wearing one.

    Honestly, no one REALLY cares if you are wearing a shadbelly I just like to have it when everyone else has one on because then I can take pretty pictures with my tails flapping. Shadbellies are more for the rider and the picture honestly, formal rules state a dark coat and light shirt are acceptable.
    Oh Sweetheart
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    • #3
      I'm also 22! I show in the High Performance Division when it's offered/when it fills and otherwise venture down to the younger A/Os.

      I showed the same horse on the same(ish) circuit all the way through novice, childrens and juniors and didn't wear a shad for a single class until I went to the Royal Winter Fair for the first time. Around that time was also the beginning of the "hunter derby" idea, so I started wearing my shad more often because, well, I owned one and I could.

      I now wear it for all classics/derbies (the only classics/derbies that I do are usually 3'6+ so I don't tend to run into the height issue you mentioned above. I would still wear it in a 3'6 classic even if the prize money was next to nothing. I don't think that should affect whether or not it's appropro) and the only time that I have worn it or seen it worn in a stake is at indoors. Wearing it in a stake at every show would be overkill, I think.

      If you want to talk appropriateness, the old skool hunt people will tell you that a child should never wear a shadbelly, but anyone who's taken the trip to Pony Finals will note that this (suggested) rule is not upheld well on the AA circuit. This would also technically apply to children's/junior hunters but again, if you take a look at the higher echelons of the sport, that argument is like closing the barn door after all of the horses have run out.

      Honestly though, I feel like you should just do whatever feels right for YOU. If you're a pony kid and you show up at PFs/junior hunter finals/whatever underaged finals without a shad, the show moms might clutch their pearls and bemoan you for not "keeping up with the trends", but the traditional people will praise you for keepin it real. You can't win the affections of everyone involved, especially in the horse world.

      Besides, I don't think a class has ever been one or lost on the premise that one person wore a shadbelly and the other didn't. If a tiebreaker like that has to happen, give yourself a pat on the back for every other part of your ride being virtually perfect.

      P.P.P.P.S. Sorry for the novel. Over and out.

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      • #4
        16, derby format classics under 3ft. Basically any classic that is held separately from the division, such as a night class or early morning class. Pony kids: fashion to wear it at pony finals, in pony derbies, and big classics. According to a fox hunting technicality they shouldn't wear a shad, but no one actually follows fox hunt rules at the upper levels of the AA circuit and I would personally rather be correct and in fashion with the people I'm showing with than worry about avoiding offending some fox hunt masters.
        Mendokuse

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        • #5
          Originally posted by hunterrider23 View Post
          According to a fox hunting technicality they shouldn't wear a shad, but no one actually follows fox hunt rules at the upper levels of the AA circuit and I would personally rather be correct and in fashion with the people I'm showing with than worry about avoiding offending some fox hunt masters.
          Just an FYI: A navy coat, white shirt, and tan breeches is also considered formal attire by the rulebook, thus is entirely correct and just as fashionable. (Maddie Schaefer wore just this at Pony Finals last year or the before.)

          Anyway, I'm a younger A/A. As an example, at a show last weekend, I wore a regular coat for the Medal and the first round of the Classic. Then I wore my shadbelly for the second classic round and the subsequent (separate) hunter derby.

          This weekend, at another A show where I'll do the classic, I likely won't even bring the shad and will just wear a navy coat and white shirt.

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          • #6
            29, show in some hunters, some Morgan hunter pleasure, and mostly jumpers. I will wear a shadbelly only in when formal attire is appropriate, and had I children, I would not allow them to wear a shadbelly. For hunters, I would err on the side of "no shadbelly" rather than "shadbelly."

            For hunter pleasure, however, at smaller "A" shows, I have sometimes worn my shadbelly for evening classes. This has been primarily when I wanted to have some fun because I didn't know when I would have the chance to show in that division and wear it again. I did not wear it for a daytime championship class (instead, I wore a navy hunt coat and white shirt). I did not wear it in my (evening) qualifying class at the Morgan Grand National. Had I shown in the championship class (evening class), I would have worn it.

            I guess I generally tend to be very conservative about when I wear my shad and my *general* rule of thumb is: not ever for kids, not for small classes, and only in the evening.

            I also prefer dress boots, a proper canary vest (or at the very least, canary points), breeches of an appropriate rise, and a top hat (which I *can* wear in hunter pleasure). You will never see me wear anything other than a solid black (velvet or CO GR8/AYR8/etc) helmet with my shad over fences.
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            • #7
              I'm 33 and I show in Big Boobie & Booty Babes Busting Backyard Crossrails. No shad required - usually wearing a WT version of wildly colored breeches and a ripped up T-shirt.

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              • #8
                Younger Adult Amateur hoping to sell my fancy 3ft hunter and find a nice even fancier greenie to eventually do the A/O's and relive my junior hunter glory days. LOL! I show in AA rated shows in zone 7 mostly, not by choice, but bc that's where my trainer goes, and I like the atmosphere of a large, well run, AA show.

                I normally wear a navy, back, or dark gray coat in my classes, navy or black on a classic day. Normally white shirt, but even though its currently a faux paus, I wear a blue shirt on occasion bc it looks cute on my back horse. 

                Shadbelly only in a Derby, or the zone end finals or a classic where there is a seperation between the classes if it is a big show. Other than that no one, and I, don't care about wearing one. A navy or black jacket and a white shirt is very appropriate in most classic/stake situations.
                Last edited by HunterMolly; Jun. 21, 2013, 07:54 AM. Reason: Spelling

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