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Appaloosa tail help? This is not pretty.

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  • #21
    Maybe I just got lucky with my Appy. He was on MTG for some time and his tail grew like crazy when I decided to give it a try I also tried it on his forelock and saw significant results.

    He was turned out with a yearling to babysit, and that little crapper chewed out his beautiful (yet still sort of sparse) tail.

    After it was eaten - https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...94910615_o.jpg

    This is what it looked like in March after I had used it for 3 months - https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.n...40651480_n.jpg

    It is more coarse and definitely looks like a bush at the top, but his forelock is soft and his mane is fine, but he definitely has a lot of that - https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.n...57814285_o.jpg (yay sedated pony!)

    I would apply MTG every couple of days, braid it down, wrap with vet wrap, and sometimes wrap with a sock to cover itup, but the vet wrap seemed to last longer than the sock time after time.

    I would suggest putting him on some hair growth supplements - maybe some calcium or check out what else smartpak has to offer, condition and/or mtg when you can, and get a fly sheet with a tail flap and make sure he's sprayed before he goes out, if he can't be resprayed every couple of hours. It will *hopefully* reduce breakage from swatting.


    • #22
      Originally posted by llsc View Post

      This type of tail works great for showing. You pull bits of the actual tail hair through the holes and make small braids to hold it in. You can't tell it's an extension once it's in and you fluff a little hair over the top if you can.
      I have also heard good things about this for showing, and they make a synthetic hide version if you are squicked out by the thought of natural hide. They use these for horses missing parts of their tails, and it works so well because it is actually attached to the tail bone so it can't swish around like the tails that tie on at the end of the tail. It also blends in nicely because it uses a natural tail with a mix of short and long tail hairs.

      As far as growing her tail, I firmly believe that it will or it won't. It is so tied in with genetics that the best you can do is keep her wormed, feed her properly, gently finger comb any burrs/hay/bad snarls out, and try to keep the flies off as best as you can with fly sheets, boots, and fly spray. I have also found that rinsing or sponging the sweat off after a workout also helps keep flies away. I would not try to braid in anything because I would be afraid of losing any more hair at this point. It doesn't look like you have much to work with! But she is lovely and the tail really doesn't matter much in the grand scheme of things.


      • #23
        My husbands ApHC gelding has some tail, and a very little bit of mane, but it looks like nothing compared to my OTTB mare's luxious mass of locks.
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        • #24
          More applause for your exquisite filly + a warning about fly sheets. I got rid of all mine 10+ years ago after seeing my gorgeous mare driven half nuts when hornets flew up and got trapped underneath. For protection against flies, I'd concentrate on providing shelter/shade, fans, good insect control from fly predators to repellents. I'd also avoid combing, brushing or braiding for fear of pulling out precious hairs in the process. Conditioners, massage, attention to diet (I do use ration balancers + a high omega 3 fat supplement + excellent forage/pasture + hay) + occasional picking out have worked best for me.


          • Original Poster

            Thank you everyone for such kind words! I am quite fond of her . She's actually half Hanoverian and I'm lucky that I got such a beautiful mix of both breeds.

            Another picture here.

            I got a lot of very useful information here, thank you!


            • #26
              I love appy tails!!! Your horse is gorgeous!
              My POA has a full tail, though thinned out thanks to the last fall growth of burrs on the hillside. I learned to put lots of cowboy magic in it to keep the burrs from pulling hairs out. It does not bother me if it stays thin looking, though.

              Personally, I don't care for the look of fake tails. They look too cookie cutter perfect and pull my eye away from the hindquarters.
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              • #27
                Cataluna, she is REALLY cute!

                I took a couple of photos of my app - to give you an idea of the stages her tail has gone through. Still not "thick" by any means, but now as a just turned 6 year old it is better than it was as a three year old.

                Yearling - black mane and tail, average thickness

                Three years old - thin tail, mohawk mane

                Six years - almost completely white, and much thicker

                Tail again - yep, its even trimmed/pulled at the top


                Appaloosas still look good even if they do not have a ton of hair!
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                • #28
                  Appys are noted for having sparse manes and tails.


                  • #29
                    It's genetic. It means she has good foundation genes. Go rock the show with that rat tail and be proud of her heritage.
                    Everyone else can kiss your grits
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                    • #30
                      She is lovely. Some of this is just how appies are. There was one in GA who I freakin' loved. She had no hair on her tail. We're talking HAIRLESS. Just a little black tail with no hair on it. And she was really gassy. Right before a jump she'd crank that tail up and to the side and let one rip. And when she did changes she'd whirl that tail like a propeller. Hilarious. Everyone LOVED THAT HORSE (including the judges). She had total appytude and didn't care who knew it!
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                      • #31
                        I just wanted to pop in and say SHE'S LOVELY!
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                        • #32
                          Originally posted by Petstorejunkie View Post
                          It's genetic. It means she has good foundation genes. Go rock the show with that rat tail and be proud of her heritage.
                          Everyone else can kiss your grits
                          You BETCHA!!!! Means that good true Ap blood hasn't been contaminated by the lunacy of breeding-du-jour. Condition if you want; tail bag (in my experience, with my Ap) made it worse. Don't NEED a wig. She's lovely as she is. Don't try to make her look like something she's not!

                          (sorry - can you tell I'm not a big fan of 21st century Aps?)
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                          • #33
                            First, I agree with the others, your horse is beautiful! Tail or no. Lovely.

                            I have an Appaloosa/Trakehnerr gelding that I adore. When I got him a few years ago he had very little tail: http://i740.photobucket.com/albums/x...psa106b98c.jpg At that time I don't think he was in work (he's chubby for sure!) and he was only on 1 pound of Strategy daily I believe.

                            When I got him, he was put into regular work and I changed up his feed. He now gets about 6 pounds of Triple Crown Complete. This is about a year and a half later: http://i740.photobucket.com/albums/x...psb2a5e4e1.jpg It's still sparse, but it grew a lot.

                            And most recent, again, still not very full, but I'm really amazed and that difference in length from when I first got him: http://i740.photobucket.com/albums/x...psafe9e437.jpg

                            And I don't use anything on his tail. I tried MTG once or twice, and I just don't like using the stuff. It's nasty. I'm not saying it won't work, I just don't like it.

                            As far as showing, I only do jumpers, so I don't care. I will say, he does carry his tail high, so it always look short when we're riding! It makes him who he is, unique. http://i740.photobucket.com/albums/x...21Chico4-1.jpg and http://i740.photobucket.com/albums/x...pse250b570.jpg

                            In short, I do think plain old nutrition plays a big role.
                            “Be yourself; everyone else is already taken.”
                            ¯ Oscar Wilde


                            • #34
                              I had the best luck with hair conditioners designed for more ethnic hair types. They seem to have better deep and long lasting effects, while not stripping natural oils. MTG wasn't that great of a product for actually growing hair, although it did work well for rain rot and skin funks.

                              I had horrible luck with tail bags, just made the tail break more where it was attached. Course I also had the appy who scratched out an entire braid while under a sleazy, so take that for what it's worth. ;-)
                              You can't fix stupid.... but you can breed it!


                              • #35
                                Yup, genetic, so MTG and other things won't work like they do on non-Apps. They may prevent breakage, but won't encourage growth. Hazard of owning the breed.


                                • Original Poster

                                  Originally posted by horsegal301 View Post
                                  Maybe I just got lucky with my Appy. He was on MTG for some time and his tail grew like crazy when I decided to give it a try I also tried it on his forelock and saw significant results.

                                  After it was eaten - https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...94910615_o.jpg
                                  How funny, I actually have a tattoo of that ampersand on my wrist! Cool clip job .

                                  I bit the bullet a couple days ago and really evaluated my girls tail (I was honestly avoiding looking at it too closely in fear that there will be less there than I thought!) and it's actually not as thin and as sparse as I was anticipating. I can grab a decent handful, and it's very soft and fine. I think if I could get it to grow, it won't be all that pathetic!

                                  I treated it with some leave-in conditioner and have started her on a biotin supplement and flax seed. Liberal fly spray, no tail bag. Other than that, she's going to rock what she's got.

                                  Thanks again for all this advice!


                                  • #37
                                    OP, good for you. I like the attitude, "rock what she's got".
                                    “Be yourself; everyone else is already taken.”
                                    ¯ Oscar Wilde